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Quote from: Marbles on 20 Apr 2007, 01:53 pmI'm afraid that in order to get the sound I want I may need to sell my cartridge and get a different one.I just don't know which one that would be at this point and it's pretty hard to get loaners for this purpose.I tell you what, Rob. I got my silent PC (thanks DOS) coming in next week and my time with Wayne's Burson buffer is running out. I need to do a serious comp between my various PC based digital sources. While I am busy with all that, I can lend you 3 carts to compare to yours and see if your theory is right: Benz-Micro Ruby 3 LO, B-M Glider 2 LO, and Koetsu Rosewood Sig. I have to warn you SME IV arm/Koetsu combination can become addictive. I have the original boxes and I will ship insured. I trust you will take good care of them but you let me know if you want to bother with the experiment or not.
I'm afraid that in order to get the sound I want I may need to sell my cartridge and get a different one.I just don't know which one that would be at this point and it's pretty hard to get loaners for this purpose.
Quote from: woodsyi on 20 Apr 2007, 04:52 pmQuote from: Marbles on 20 Apr 2007, 01:53 pmI'm afraid that in order to get the sound I want I may need to sell my cartridge and get a different one.I just don't know which one that would be at this point and it's pretty hard to get loaners for this purpose.I tell you what, Rob. I got my silent PC (thanks DOS) coming in next week and my time with Wayne's Burson buffer is running out. I need to do a serious comp between my various PC based digital sources. While I am busy with all that, I can lend you 3 carts to compare to yours and see if your theory is right: Benz-Micro Ruby 3 LO, B-M Glider 2 LO, and Koetsu Rosewood Sig. I have to warn you SME IV arm/Koetsu combination can become addictive. I have the original boxes and I will ship insured. I trust you will take good care of them but you let me know if you want to bother with the experiment or not. Rim, that is VERY generous of you. I just came back from running my dog at the farm and on the way back I called Klaus. He will be sending me a VDH Condor to try. If it works for me, he will take my RG8 back in trade. Let me see how it goes with the Condor. If that doesn't work out I will be VERY happy to take you up on your offer.
Thanks Tom, I'll let you know when it's here so you can check out the sound.
It's some kind of emotional trigger that quits when it gets just too revealing and you need to dial back slightly to the edge. I suspect my system teeters on that brink now all the time, such that little changes tip it one way or the other.... oh, and the Mono Extreme SE's ARE that good, causing this little anomaly to be ever so much more obvious.
Quote from: TomS on 20 Apr 2007, 08:50 pm It's some kind of emotional trigger that quits when it gets just too revealing and you need to dial back slightly to the edge. I suspect my system teeters on that brink now all the time, such that little changes tip it one way or the other.... oh, and the Mono Extreme SE's ARE that good, causing this little anomaly to be ever so much more obvious.Do they make you forget the magic of your previous tube amps?
I have to go vomit. The entire thread is getting really sad.
I have to go vomit.
BTW, once this thread got back on track I found your comments on "going too far" really fascinating. This is so true, but I never really had it in perspective that way. How you said it really cleared the fog for me. I've definitely been there on the digital side (with the mega-Wadia) and come back now and am much happier in my listening. It's some kind of emotional trigger that quits when it gets just too revealing and you need to dial back slightly to the edge. I suspect my system teeters on that brink now all the time, such that little changes tip it one way or the other.
Quote from: TomS on 20 Apr 2007, 08:50 pmBTW, once this thread got back on track I found your comments on "going too far" really fascinating. This is so true, but I never really had it in perspective that way. How you said it really cleared the fog for me. I've definitely been there on the digital side (with the mega-Wadia) and come back now and am much happier in my listening. It's some kind of emotional trigger that quits when it gets just too revealing and you need to dial back slightly to the edge. I suspect my system teeters on that brink now all the time, such that little changes tip it one way or the other.Interesting. I've been there too. You get to a point where you are listening to the way the music was recorded and not the music itself as a whole? A little fuzz in the chain brings everything back together?Maybe?
Perhaps it's a case of the listener being too analytical. I seem to have a problem with that one at times. Nowadays I don't even sit down to listen very often. It's like taking Shakespeare apart syllable by syllable. The plot suffers.
I have to say, the sound I'm getting is great..there is no emotional tie to the music though.
Quote from: Marbles on 21 Apr 2007, 03:35 amI have to say, the sound I'm getting is great..there is no emotional tie to the music though.Thus the rub. By constant analysis over years of being in this hobby, have we sucked the life out of enjoying the music we play through our rigs?
I can't help thinking about components that are considered 'musical' or have some kind of their own magic even though they're not high end. Reynaud Twins come to mind. I recently down-sized to a tube integrated and some warmer sounding speakers and a TT and am forcing myself to learn to listen and enjoy music again.
Cool Thumbs up I think that tubes "CAN" inpart pleasing distortion, not necessarily overtly audible, but noticeable. I'm much happier with tube gear in my system.