Battling it out with vibration

cyounkman · « **Reply #20 on:** 29 Jul 2003, 06:00 pm »

Quote from: Psychicanimal

You got one of them correct: the vibration sink.

The handy thing about the sink concept is that you can slap it on top of any other product to provide isolation from rack-borne vibrations. I was using vibrapods, but more expensive/effective mesaures could be subsituted easily.

Psychicanimal · « **Reply #21 on:** 2 Aug 2003, 06:17 pm »

That's it? No one else?

Maybe I'll have to do like Chukie and give out my phone # ....

Marbles · « **Reply #22 on:** 2 Aug 2003, 07:29 pm »

Good idea! In fact I'd like to discuss audio with you guys too.

Please call me at 954 475 9789

I am eagerly awaiting your call

Malcolm Fear · « **Reply #23 on:** 2 Aug 2003, 08:55 pm »

I have great success with Corian shelves sitting on top of half inflated innertubes. Corian doesn't ring and seems to absorb vibration emanating from the piece of equipment sitting on it.I've tried other shelf material, but there is a notable improvement when using Corian. I use this method for cd players and electronics.
My turntable (Linn Sondeck) is mounted on a Dekstand (a light rigid stand).

Tonto Yoder · « **Reply #24 on:** 4 Aug 2003, 10:57 pm »

Quote from: Marbles

Good idea! In fact I'd like to discuss audio with you guys too.

Please call me at 954 475 9789

I am eagerly awaiting your call

Hey,
I called this number and got a vasectomy clinic. That isn't my idea of "battling vibration."

Marbles · « **Reply #25 on:** 5 Aug 2003, 12:32 am »

Quote from: Tonto Yoder

Quote from: Marbles
Good idea! In fact I'd like to discuss audio with you guys too.

Please call me at 954 475 9789

I am eagerly awaiting your call

Hey,
I called this number and got a vasectomy clinic. That isn't my idea of "battling vibration."

That's odd, maybe you dialed the wrong number...please try again.

starlet · « **Reply #26 on:** 5 Aug 2003, 05:05 am »

Quote from: tmd

I don't use anything yet but I want to start messing around with blu-tac inside my CD player and also to try some of Moray James 'feet' that he put up here some time ago.
Maybe also those hard bouncy balls that people have been talking about as good, perhaps under my speakers. That should get me started on another obsessive part of the hobby
What about you Dejan?

I use blu tac to damp the cdp transport, also apply some on the crystal receiver. Clarity has improved. The player is sitting on a piece of 3/4 inch Styrofoam. It helps to improve the high extension.

Funny thing is that the pre amp react differently when sitting on the Styrofoam. It does nothing to the high but tighten the bass noticeably.

PhilNYC · « **Reply #27 on:** 5 Aug 2003, 12:38 pm »

I use brass cones, 2.25"-thick maple cutting boards, and rubber/cork pads underneath all components (cones directly underneath the component on top of the boards...pads between the boards and my shelf)...honestly don't know if this results in less vibration or just different vibration, but I really like the effect it has had on my system. I've experimented a little, and I've found that using these things had the most sonic effect with my amp (I would have thought the biggest effect would have been under the cd player/transport, but not so)...

I'm also looking into trying out some Symposium Svelte Shelves under my speakers, although that's about a month away...

Herbie · « **Reply #28 on:** 9 Aug 2003, 12:05 am »

Quote from: PhilNYC

Well, first off. . . You can't win a fight with vibration. It's futile.

Audio component vibration can indeed be controlled, and can be controlled quite well. Say, for example, you have a vacuum tube that vibrates from transformer hum and sound waves. All you need do to stop the vibration is touch the tube gently with a finger (if it weren't too hot, of course). Herbie's Audio Lab isolation control products work similarly.

Rubbery things like Sorbothane and Vibrapods have resonant frequencies where they like to "bounce" and introduce frequency anomalies of their own. The result is often "bloopy" or ill-defined bass and attenuation of upper frequencies. On the other hand, a soft material with qualities more like wax can absorb microphonic vibrations and associated distortions. With a soft material having a molecular structure that is loosely cross-linked, yet resilient, you can win the fight.

ABEX · « **Reply #29 on:** 9 Aug 2003, 02:06 am »

I have used a few Homemade tweeks,but I bet there are those which are worth paying for!

The SuperBalls under my CD Transport and Cones under my Floorstanders. The area that most concerns me is in Turntables which I am waiting on which cabinet design I will build once all of my gear is bought. I might have everything in my cabinet weighted down and clamped in order to minimise vibration and just run wood trim around it to make it look like a regular wood cabinet.

Turntables are the worst vibration equations to defeat. I would like it to be in a Soundproof Cleanroom, suspended from the 4 corners of the ceiling with Balancing weights.Have someone gown up and run a ppm meter everytime someone goes in to put a record on.

I will place Butcher Blocks under my speakers at somepoint,but I have a few projects going on at the moment to finish inclusing rewiring my whole system with Pure Silver.

I could spend alot of time trying all of these.
http://www.audiotweaks.com/collection_descend.htm

hifitommy · « **Reply #30 on:** 17 Aug 2003, 07:39 pm »

http://db.audioasylum.com/cgi/m.pl?forum=vinyl&n=58133&highlight=toysRus&r=&session=

go to the link above and read. i was and still am amazed.

the whole search is here:

http://db.audioasylum.com/cgi/search.pl

has anybody else tried anything like this?

rcrump · « **Reply #31 on:** 18 Aug 2003, 05:25 am »

Turntables, transports and amps are the most sensitve to vibration here......I took care of the turntable as mine has an active air base built into the design......I went with all sorts of feet trying everything under the transport and finally went a little wild and got myself a Machina Dynamica Nimbus active air base which is pretty amazing....Amps seem to want at least some cones under them through the carpet to the concrete floor here and the ones I have been using have stainless steel points and delrin bodies....The DAC, Preamp control section and phono stage like the 3M Bumpons and separate power supplies and line filters like short aluminum cones.....The phono stage is really light contruction and it likes a lead filled aluminum brick on top of it......As a general rule aluminum works well on concrete floors and brass works well on pier and beam floors......I suggest those that can't find decent cones have them made as it doesn't cost that much to have anything machined....Good dimensions to start with are 1.5" tall and 1.5" in diameter and a .5" shoulder before they come to a point.......

satfrat · « **Reply #32 on:** 18 Aug 2003, 05:38 am »

I might suggest Ed Soler (username Esoler) at A`gon as a source for excellent CNC-machined stainless steel cones of most any size/thread or unthreaded. Ed also does brass cones but I like his stainless cones better myself. His prices for cones/pucks are very reasonable with an excellent finish to them. I use them under my pre/pro, amps, speakers, and BPT conditioner. Regards, Robin

byteme · « **Reply #33 on:** 18 Aug 2003, 03:04 pm »

I'm using vibrapods under DAC, preamp, transport, dvd player, CD Changer and speakers. Also using dynamat extreme or similaar spray on damper inside of cabinets of Transport, DVD, CD Changer and OneAC iso transformers. The speakers are "coupled" to the floor via spikes to MDF to vibrapods then the speaker.