[DVV]

It would be interesting to learn how you guys fight it out with vibration. No doubt some will use spikes, others special feet, others something else still.

So, let's hear it.

Cheers,
DVV

[Psychicanimal]

It would be interesting to learn how you guys fight it out with vibration.
DVV

I use a machete--I'm from the Caribbean!  

[tmd]

I don't use anything yet but I want to start messing around with blu-tac inside my CD player and also to try some of Moray James 'feet' that he put up here some time ago.
Maybe also those hard bouncy balls that people have been talking about as good, perhaps under my speakers. That should get me started on another obsessive part of the hobby
What about you Dejan?

[DVV]

It would be interesting to learn how you guys fight it out with vibration.
DVV

I use a machete--I'm from the Caribbean!  

You chop it up? Not much vibrates, even moves at all, after being chopped up, that's true, I'm told.

Guerillero, I didn't ask for your jungle experiences.

:lol

Cheers,
DVV

[DVV]

I don't use anything yet but I want to start messing around with blu-tac inside my CD player and also to try some of Moray James 'feet' that he put up here some time ago.
Maybe also those hard bouncy balls that people have been talking about as good, perhaps under my speakers. That should get me started on another obsessive part of the hobby
What about you Dejan?

On the subject of obssesive hobbies, I have to hand it to Marbles, female breasts are still second to none.

On the subject of vibration, I use Norwegian made SoundCare feet. After trying out anything and everything I could get my hands on, I found these to be the best of the lot overall. For more info, go to http://www.soundcare.no .

But essentially, I am biding my time. I have it on authority that DeZorel will launch an anti-vibration pod which is a result of years of researching into the matter. I haven't even seen a prototype, but if it works out anything like their line filters, it should be a killer. I was also told the price would be "very reasonable", and when I asked what does that mean, they said below one half the price of their cheapest filter.

Fortunately for me, I leave for Greece, sun and sea on August 3 and won't be back before August 20 or so, so my waiting should be subjectively shortened. As I understand it, they should be introducing it in late September or so.

Cheers,
DVV

[rosconey]

i just make everything heavy-vmps large sub(140lbs) has a 120lb marble top-main speakers are about 90lbs each on stands that are about 60lbs each-tv stand that houses dvd&cd ,ht reciever is a rock-tv is a 35 inch tube (150lbs)rxv-1 reciever(75lbs)dvd(15lbs)stand goes at least 150lbs more-my 4 mono amps are stacked on each other with 3/4 inch spacers under the feet to help circulation 220 lbs .

i do this because i have 2 dogs that go over 110 lbs each and 1 is a hyper nutjob that bounces off everthing, so my stuff aint easy to move.

[Psychicanimal]

Dejan,

You walked right into that one...

Well then,

I uderstand this is a thread on the devices/materials used for dealing with vibration, not a specific discussion on tuning components. That's a legthy and difficult subject in itself.

As such, I will give a list of my favorite ones:

1 ) Goldmund Cones
2 ) rubber/cork/ruber feet (like the Mapleshade)
3 ) Dynamat Extreme
4 ) Bob Regal feet
5 ) Mapleshade Triple Point Cones
6 ) IKEA Lack tables
7 ) KAB 1200 tonearm fluid damper
8 ) Caribbean Moca wood

I also have (or have used) spikes, Audiopoints, Blue Tack, little threaded brass cones, Vibrapods, Tiptoes, mouse pads, Herbie's Tube Dampers, marble cutting board, maple cutting board, particle board, Music Mat, Disctracker damper and Sorbothane.

What's important is that now I know how to combine any of these regardless of location or equipment changes (have moved system four times in two years).  I can tune the system into sounding right no matter what.  

[DVV]

Dejan,

You walked right into that one...

Well then,

I uderstand this is a thread on the devices/materials used for dealing with vibration, not a specific discussion on tuning components. That's a legthy and difficult subject in itself.

As such, I will give a list of my favorite ones:

1 ) Goldmund Cones
2 ) rubber/cork/ruber feet (like the Mapleshade)
3 ) Dynamat Extreme
4 ) Bob Regal feet
5 ) Mapleshade Triple Point Cones
6 ) IKEA Lack tables
7 ) KAB 1200 tonearm fluid  ...

I appreciate your list Francisco, but unfortunately, most of the items on your list are, shall we say, hard to find in Europe, and especially in my neck of the woods.

Which is why I asked the question. I am not satisfied with what's being offered in Europe - a lot of spikes, eseentially, and from experience I think the spikes can take you just so far. After that point, you have to resort to other means.

Blu tac, or its local equivalents, do help, no doubt, but even in combination with spikes still somehow fail to satisfy (well, me at least).

I referred to the techniques more than specific items, and in particular, technique combinations.

Any thoughs on that?

Cheers,
DVV

[satfrat]

Hi DVV, I have no thoughts on the subject personally but I know a specialist who would. Chuck Josephson,,, where are you? Regards, Robin

[nathanm]

I would suggest putting your gear in another room separate from the speakers.   Moving it away from the source is the most logical and inexpensive approach.  Then all you need is to run speaker cables out from the equipment room into the listening room.  Of course, this means you can't see the front panels, but a TV monitor and video camera could be installed.  One of those remote control receiver doohickeys could then be placed between the speakers for controlling the equipment, or perhaps you could install a small sheet of glass in the wall so the infrared beam can get through.

[bubba966]

Part of my setup is using weight similar to rosconey. 40 lb receiver, 45 lb LD player, soon to be 50 lb DVD player, 120 lbs of subs stacked.

I've currently got a couple of sets of Herbie's Audio Lab Tenderfooters in premium black. I originally bought them to use as spacres to create more room for airflow as my gear is stacked. Figured if they helped with vibrations as well, that it'd be an added bonus.

Well guess what, they did help with performance. Under my DVD player it helped things sound more clear. The clarity was improved. I tried taking them to a friends house as his setup is a bit more expensive than mine. I didn't tell him what I thought of them before we listened to them underneath his Proceed PMDT. Threw in a CD or two and we both came to the conclusion that the clarity was improved, and we couldn't detect any negatives.

So Dejan, if you're looking for something new to try go ahead and try ordering a set of Tenderfeet. They're not terribly expensive, he ships worldwide, & you've got a 90 day trial period. And Steve Herbelin is great to deal with.

[Danny Richie]

I use one of these.



Info here: http://www.gr-research.com/levitator.htm

Wayne from Bolder Cables did a good review on them months on the Harmonic Discord in his forum.

Now what was that about Marbles and breast? Did I miss something good somewhere?

[Ferdi]

Haven't done too much on vibration but I am using the following:

Dynaudio speakers on spikes on coins or glass plates on parquet floor. Stuck down with poster gum. (blu-tac, only it's white)

Odyssey Stratos on the floor but it has special feet.

Sorbothane sheet on top of Stratos, Ikea chopping block on top of that used as a base for my Sony CDP X77 ES

I still want to build a flexy-type rack but can't seem to find the time.

I have played around with rubber balls, wooden balls and other exotic methods recommended here and there but what I have now works best, so far.

[Psychicanimal]

I referred to the techniques more than specific items, and in particular, technique combinations.

Any thoughs on that?

Cheers,
DVV

Let's see what these guys come out with.  I want to find out how talented they are.  Nathan's been the best so far--but his answer is incomplete as it does not account for self generated vibration...

For now I will say that vibration control can make or break you (yes, Chuckie is right about this).

Like I wrote you, my bag of tricks is deep bottomed.

[DVV]

I would suggest putting your gear in another room separate from the speakers.   Moving it away from the source is the most logical and inexpensive approach.  Then all you need is to run speaker cables out from the equipment room into the listening room.  Of course, this means you can't see the front panels, but a TV monitor and video camera could be installed.  One of those remote control receiver doohickeys could then be placed between the speakers for controlling the equipment, or perhaps you could install a small sheet of glass in the wall so the infrared beam can get through.

That's an idea, Nate, but I can see at least one pitfall - long speaker cables. No matter how you look at it, we all try to keep them as short as possible, and moving the gear into another room, while saving it from much vibration emanating from the speakers, will also require long(ish) speaker cables, even assuming you drill a hole in the adjoining wall.

Obviously, much depends on locations here; if your gear is practically back-to-back with one of the speakers, then your cables may not need to be too long, but I fear this might start blackmailing you into changing your interior decoration. If you are married, which you are not, you would recognize this for the problem it may well be.

Cheers,
DVV

[witchdoctor]

I highly reccomend the Mapleshade brass cones and maple platforms. You can see my reiews in the critics circle and under the Mensa Tweaks in the Bolder Cable room.

[MaxCast]

I have points under my Cd player with a bag of sand on top and a DAC on top of the sand.  Not sure what it is doing for me but it is temporary.

I use 3 points (three small suction cups to a triangular plate to a point) under my forplay which helps a lot!

I built a very heavy duty stand/shelf for my speakers.  I installed them and the points for the CD player at the same time and liked the results very much.

I would like to try sorbothane (sp) as I think it is a cheap and effective way for components in a rack or stacked components.  Adds damping and air flow.

[Hantra]

It would be interesting to learn how you guys fight it out with vibration.

Well, first off. . .  You can't win a fight with vibration.  It's futile.  

The best you can hope to do is gain some semblance of control with regard to vibration.  IMO, you need to do what you can to move vibration quickly away from your components.  The more you do to try and fight vibration, or kill it, the more you will screw up your sound. . .

I prefer using brass cones, or different types of wood, like the Ayre myrtle blocks.  This will allow a path of escape for vibration inside your gear.  Using things like rubber, or sorbothane slow the sound down significantly, and you develop these nasty time artifacts.  I am sure it sounds different, but it can't sound better.  Your component has more vibration problems from within than from the ground, so to try and isolate, all you can do is like Nathan said. . Move the gear out. .

B

[cyounkman]

Let's see what these guys come out with.  I want to find out how talented they are.  Nathan's been the best so far--but his answer is incomplete as it does not account for self generated vibration...

I've posted this elsewhere, but here it is again. I was looking for a cheap way to isolate and damp a particularly microphonic tubed cd player and came up with this little vibration sink. Originally posted on Soundtage Interactive.

Let me know what you think.

[Psychicanimal]

I've posted this elsewhere, but here it is again. I was looking for a cheap way to isolate and damp a particularly microphonic tubed cd player and came up with this little vibration sink. Originally posted on Soundtage Interactive.

Let me know what you think.

You got one of them correct: the vibration sink.  That's right.  There needs to be a place were vibration can be drained.  The opposite would be the ultra light, rigid rack design but that really works optimal with real massive components that they act as their own vibration sinks.  Still a vibration sink is useful under most circumstances...

Keep coming guys!