NOISY IN HERE!!

T-Bone · « **Reply #60 on:** 3 Mar 2008, 06:54 am »

Hi Hugh,

Sounds like you are on to something here. Like yourself, I do indeed like the sonics of a well designed t-line speak. I look forward to your website update.

Cheers,
Brad Kizer

Seano · « **Reply #61 on:** 4 Mar 2008, 09:26 pm »

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....he commissioned Laurie to develop a TL subwoofer, now completed and delivered, and in Copenhagen Tympany split open the enclosure (built with 25mm MDF!!) using a 1200W amp playing 747 takeoffs recorded just off the runway at liftoff. Needless to say, they have now braced the box with 38mm composite MDF, and placed a 500Kg weight over the enclosure to hold it down in the anechoic chamber during testing. Indications are that it's holding; that's two 12" XLS Peerless drivers in isobarik configuration, BTW, and specially fan cooled voice coils.

.......they should have put bigger nails in it. Always works for me

Tliner · « **Reply #62 on:** 5 Mar 2008, 11:34 am »

Hi Seano,

I suggested that longer screws be used to hold the box together and suggested that they put a bolt through its neck to keep it together.
The destructive engineers put a 18mm bolt from top to bottom of the box and another from side to side about in the middle, suitably braced. Before that the thing was wrapped in two layers of carbon fibre. Apparently they have now cooked the voice coils and as a result now know the upper limits of the highly modified hand built drivers. The drivers could not handle over 2400 watts long term.
I wonder what they will try next.

Cheers,

Laurie.

RonR · « **Reply #63 on:** 5 Mar 2008, 11:40 am »

Quote from: Tliner on 5 Mar 2008, 11:34 am

I suggested that longer screws be used to hold the box together and suggested that they put a bolt through its neck to keep it together.

If this thing ever sees the light of day, it just HAS to be called the "Frankenstein"!

Cheers,

Ron.

Seano · « **Reply #64 on:** 5 Mar 2008, 09:20 pm »

One wonders just how much bass one needs......'Frankenstein' indeed. It may go well with a speaker design, currently at prototype stage in Bathurst NSW (I think), which may go into production through Aslan Acoustics........it's called the 'Frankenspeaker'
http://www.stereo.net.au/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=4666&view=findpost&p=67294

AKSA · « **Reply #65 on:** 5 Mar 2008, 09:29 pm »

One suspects that Tymphany are vying with the chemists to produce a 'sure-fire' faecal softener!!

Judging by the doof doof routinely driving down my street, there is no limit to the levels of bass required by the consumer.... Perhaps death would be the only contra-indicator......

Cheers,

Hugh

kyrill · « **Reply #66 on:** 5 Mar 2008, 10:45 pm »

Death is the ultimate bass
ultimate bass will lead to death
the meaning of this revelation
rests upon what is not said

jules · « **Reply #67 on:** 5 Mar 2008, 11:45 pm »

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the meaning of this revelation
rests upon what is not said

phew ... thank goodness for that

jules

Tliner · « **Reply #68 on:** 6 Mar 2008, 12:25 am »

Hi all,

A good name for it, with bolt and all what else could it be. Actually the variation that was powered with 2400W was for a special industrial speaker. The musical version which was playing in Aus before it was shipped did a marvellous job. It was designed as an complementary extension to the VSonics. The VSonics go down to about 30Hz with a realistic musical bass, tonnes of punch for all except for audiophiles who want to feel the thump and slam of a kick drum and the low notes of a bass guitar without any hint of doofie boom. Live music, particularly Australian pub and blues music pack a real whack in the below 30Hz range, so does a pipe organ. Ya gotta feel totally involved!

Watch this space when a new musical "Frankie" is built in a month or so.

Cheers,

Laurie

AKSA · « **Reply #69 on:** 5 Apr 2008, 02:22 am »

MORE STATIC REQUIRED. SILLY, INANE COMMENTS ALWAYS ENCOURAGED......

Hugh

Oz_Audio · « **Reply #70 on:** 6 Apr 2008, 01:28 am »

Having moved to Cairns last year, I have been surprised to find 3 Hi Fi specialists in town. Darwin only had 1 for the same population.

Anyway, I dropped into one about 3 weeks ago and they had on short term loan from the inported the lastest and greatest Linn Akurate system.

This comprised of top of the line LP12, Pre amps, and speakers.

Total retail cost AUD$160K.

What did it sound like? a slightly more refined boom box from Harvey Norman.

I cam home and got the wife a the Suzanne Vega Solitude Standing LP from the 80's, a very well recorded LP.

We listened to most of the album, than came straight home and put in on our modest AKSA based system.

we where both astounded by the difference between to 2 systems.

Treble: Linn - Hi Fi like, no reality to sound, no "air", compressed. Mine - The opposite, instruments sound real, and distinct with position in space, totally clear and extended.

Midrange: Linn - Forward, in your face. Mine - as above.

Bass: Linn - Boomy, slow, over the top, compressed, gave us a headache within 5 minutes. Mine - Fast, extended, no headache.

And people buy this stuff.

The one good thing was the dealer did say he was selling a turntable every 2 days on average.

Mark

andyr · « **Reply #71 on:** 6 Apr 2008, 01:36 am »

What's your TT, arm & cartridge, Oz?

Regards,

Andy

AKSA · « **Reply #72 on:** 6 Apr 2008, 03:07 am »

Hi Mark,

I was approached by Linn Int'l Marketing Director, based in Edinburgh, for audition of the latest Linn Akurate and Klimax at the Melbourne Audio Club.

I referred it on to the committee, after doing an unsuccessful search of the Linn website to find the cost.

I then received an email from the redoubtable Adnan Arduman, past York Air Conditioning concessionaire in Turkey and now operating a high end two channel store in Istanbul. He has a rather significant website about audio, dating from years ago, here: http://www.arduman.com/aa/

Adnan RAVED about the Klimax, saying it was just astonishing. Subsequently I discovered that the Akurate is $AUD8950 ex Sydney, and the Klimax around $20K. Hmmm, ahem.........

These new digital components were projects led by Ivor Tiefenbrun's son Gilad and could well represent their new foray out of the analog formats. For myself, I cannot see why they cost so much, but maybe that's just me. Lots of people have a lot of money to splash around, branding is apparently everything, and marketing is certainly expensive..... but that all means that the retail cost is largely comprised of marketing costs; staging exhibits in expensive hifi shows around the world, and paying for the retinue of staff to make it all happen.

Cheers,

Hugh

Oz_Audio · « **Reply #73 on:** 6 Apr 2008, 07:12 am »

Andy, I have a mid 80's Linn LP12, Valhala, Ikok III, and a Denon DL160, yet to fit a 103R, going through Hughs Phono stage, GK1 and early 55 AKSA and TLB speakers. My digital source is a NAD Master series M55 universal player.

By the way, have you changed the resistors in the phono stage yet? I would love another persons opinion on the mod.

As for the Linn system, the speakers alone where AUD$80K, full active 4 way, 5 speaker system. No imaging, depth, speed etc, but they where very good at compression and headaches even at very moderate levels.

I did not hear the digital gear, just the LP12 with lastest everything.

It was an interesting afternoon.

Mark

andyr · « **Reply #74 on:** 6 Apr 2008, 10:12 am »

Quote from: Oz_Audio on 6 Apr 2008, 07:12 am

Andy, I have a mid 80's Linn LP12, Valhala, Ikok III, and a Denon DL160, yet to fit a 103R, going through Hughs Phono stage, GK1 and early 55 AKSA and TLB speakers. My digital source is a NAD Master series M55 universal player.

By the way, have you changed the resistors in the phono stage yet? I would love another persons opinion on the mod.

Mark

Hi Mark,

Aah, so you do have an LP12, same as the dealer!

Of course, the cartridge/arm makes a difference but presumably they had the latest Linn cart? Don't know about the Denon DL160 but a mate of mine loves his 103R.

No I'm sorry, I haven't changed the GK-1 phono stage reses yet ... because I've just come out of a 5 month exercise upgrading my amps to Lifeforces and I want to listen for a few months, before I do anything else!

I remember your posts about that but can you possibly email me directly as to the details of what you did? (redwood dot andrew at gmail dot com)

I have to put the teflon caps into my GK-1 at some stage, so I will get stuck into it then.

Regards,

Andy

PS: Have you heard about my CF-composite subchassis for the LP12 (if you can't afford a Keel!

)?

Oz_Audio · « **Reply #75 on:** 29 Apr 2008, 11:17 am »

Andyr

Yes I have heard about the chassis, but I would prefer to get a newer design. I think things have moved on from the 70's designs such as the Linn.

Now for something completely different.

A couple of years ago I stayed with hugh for a couple of days while I had to go to Melbourne on family matters. Hugh and I had a few coffees at his favorite hang outs and one day he brought his beloved bike down with him. He insisted that I ride it back to his place, which I did and had a wonderful time doing it. Great bike. Anyway a large number of years ago I had 2 Moto Guzzi's. A Le Mans III that I bought new in 1983 and an original 1975 LAPD single seat 850T3 Californian. The Calli gained a normal seat so my girlfriend could fit on the bake and the Le Mans nded up very modified and VERY fast! Then one day I asked the girlfriend to become my wife while we where riding the Le Mans down to Wonthaggi, and we had our Honeymoon on the Calli riding around South Oz and Kangaroo Island.

Move forward 21 years and both bikes are long gone and replace by 3 equally expensive rug rats.

So Last Saturday, I grabbed said wife, put some jeans on her and took her for a tet ride on one of these;

http://www.motoguzzi.com.au/bellagio.html

Absolutely fantastic, goes, handles, comfortable and enjoyable.

Now all I have to do is get one, but the problem will be I will also need to replace the Le Mans III. Fortunately these are now available:

http://www.ghezzi-brian.com/

Audio and Soda Michaels, once tested, always drunk!

Mark

AKSA · « **Reply #76 on:** 29 Apr 2008, 12:25 pm »

Mark,

Wonderful story, all the better for your wife being a fellow biker. When Sri tested the water with a small ride to the cafe a year or so back, at the first roundabout I leaned the bike over about five degrees to hear a shocked exclamation, 'I don't like it, keep it upright!!'

I fell in love with the old Guzzi V7 from the mid-sixties, loved the layout and ethos of the Guzzi, and yes, the Ghezzi-Brian has been a quiet obsession of mine for some time now.

And did you see the reviews on the new four valve Guzzi heads? Finally, they rev out!!

Perhaps you need an MV Augusta, or the new Aprilia V4???

Cheers,

Hugh

Grumpy_Git · « **Reply #77 on:** 29 Apr 2008, 10:24 pm »

Is the new Portishead album a classic in the making?

I certainly think so, check it out.

Nick

Greg Erskine · « **Reply #78 on:** 30 Apr 2008, 06:52 am »

Please don't mention Guzzi's here.

I have only ever riden one, once, and I still have nightmares. God I thought I was going to die. Sorry i can't remember the model but it was around 600cc with interconnected front and back brakes, this was about 20 years ago - late 80's.

I need a drink.

regards

Martyn · « **Reply #79 on:** 30 Apr 2008, 08:08 pm »

I went to buy a Guzzi once...only it was more like thirty years ago so I can't remember the model either. Perhaps fortunately the bike didn't feel at all right - I'm tall and it just didn't fit. I bought a Velocette instead - now there's a fine piece of machinery! Don't know whether they ever made it to Oz...