Ripping problems. Beware!!

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Charles Calkins

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Ripping problems. Beware!!
« on: 17 Feb 2007, 06:53 pm »
My lady gave me the newest Chris Botti album. "To love again" I tried to rip it to my computer using itunes and WMP. No luck it won't rip. I thought something was wrong with the computer so I tried another CD. Works fine. No problems getting it ripped.

               Beware!!!   Beware!!!    Beware!!
 Saw some fine print on the Chris Botti album that says

  "The audio side of this disc does not conform to CD specifications and therefore will not play on some CD and DVD players"

 It plays fine on my DVD player. But like I said it won't rip to my computer.

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« Reply #1 on: 17 Feb 2007, 07:34 pm »
Try ExactAudioCopy set to secure mode.

www.exactaudiocopy.de



I know it's possible, because there are torrents of it online for download.  It could be ripped from a pressing in another country, though...  :scratch:

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« Reply #2 on: 17 Feb 2007, 08:20 pm »
My lady gave me the newest Chris Botti album. "To love again" I tried to rip it to my computer using itunes and WMP. No luck it won't rip. I thought something was wrong with the computer so I tried another CD. Works fine. No problems getting it ripped.

               Beware!!!   Beware!!!    Beware!!
 Saw some fine print on the Chris Botti album that says

  "The audio side of this disc does not conform to CD specifications and therefore will not play on some CD and DVD players"

 It plays fine on my DVD player. But like I said it won't rip to my computer.

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The CD you have is "dual disc."  Here is what Amazon says about "dual disc."

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DualDisc
Unlike regular CDs, DualDiscs are double-sided. One side contains standard CD audio; the other features DVD content, often including the album in higher-fidelity stereo or a 5.1-channel surround sound mix; lyrics, photos, and computer files; music videos, interviews, and documentaries; and anything else one might find on a regular DVD. Though DualDiscs are slightly thicker than ordinary discs, the DVD side should play in all DVD players, and the CD side should play in all CD players.

The way I understand it, the problem you are having has to do with the fact that the disc is thicker.  B/c the disc is thicker, it is throwing off your laser in your drive, and thus is unable to read the disc. 

This is my simpleton explanation put as best I can explain it.  I had this problem with the Springsteen CD, Devils and Dust.  I used a Skip Doctor on it about a dozen times and it finally ripped.  Maybe I made the disc thinner?  Dunno, but it worked.  This is a Skip Doctor:  http://www.amazon.com/Digital-Innovations-Skipdoctor-Repair-Kit/dp/B00005B9W6/sr=8-2/qid=1171743781/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/104-2214728-4923118?ie=UTF8&s=electronics

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Re: Ripping problems. Beware!!
« Reply #3 on: 17 Feb 2007, 08:23 pm »
Or just rip it on the machine that will accept it then mail it to yourself on the other PC and import it.

Bryan

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« Reply #4 on: 17 Feb 2007, 08:29 pm »
Or just rip it on the machine that will accept it then mail it to yourself on the other PC and import it.

Bryan

I hope I'm not being patronizing, but I think what he is saying is that not all cd drives are going to misread the dual disc, so you might try another computer.  Not sure you could e-mail files that large, but you could, of course, just burn them to a cd-r and then save them on your computer.

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« Reply #5 on: 17 Feb 2007, 08:38 pm »
Right.  I was just trying to offer an easy solution to the OP.

Bryan

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« Reply #6 on: 17 Feb 2007, 08:54 pm »
Charlie,

To be clear, will it not play on the computer either or will it play and not rip?

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Re: Ripping problems. Beware!!
« Reply #7 on: 17 Feb 2007, 11:20 pm »
gitarretyp:

It won't rip or play on the computer.

Bprice2;
 You're right this CD is a dual disc and it seems to be a bit thicker than a regular CD.

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Re: Ripping problems. Beware!!
« Reply #8 on: 18 Feb 2007, 08:33 am »
SACD Hybrids that do not rip PISS ME OFF. How the hell am I suppose to listen to Mad Man Over The Water or any Bob dylan full albums that are remastered/mastered well???

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« Reply #9 on: 18 Feb 2007, 02:50 pm »
I have never had a problem ripping SACD hybrids (the redbook layer, of course).  Dylan, EJ, all of them rip fine with EAC and my cheap but accurate LiteOn 52327 drive.   DVD-A based dualdiscs are the only dualdiscs I've bought, and all of their cd sides rip as well (Talking Heads, etc). 

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« Reply #10 on: 18 Feb 2007, 03:19 pm »
I suspect as previously stated that it's more a matter of the drive rather than the software he's trying to use.  The drive in that PC may just not be capable of focusing on the thicker disk where the reflective surface is too close to the laser pickup. 

Bryan

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« Reply #11 on: 18 Feb 2007, 03:56 pm »
Charles,

If you haven't figured it already, just search "dual disc" here on AC.  Make sure you use the quotation marks.  Then do the same search on Google.  You will find that your problem is nothing new.  DD's are marketing crap and wreak all kinds of problems.  The best fix for you is to try your discs on other computers until you find a drive that will read it.  Just my humble opinion.

Brett

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Re: Ripping problems. Beware!!
« Reply #12 on: 18 Feb 2007, 04:34 pm »
Brett:
 I'll try to get it working on other computers today. My neighbors have a PC and an Apple. My daughter has a new Compaq PC.
 "Thanks (Dad) Santa"
Really no big deal it's the only CD that I can't get read. But I would like to get it into my itunes library so I can listen to it through my SB3 setup. Best audio playback I've ever had in my system.

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« Reply #13 on: 18 Feb 2007, 04:55 pm »
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Really no big deal it's the only CD that I can't get read. But I would like to get it into my itunes library so I can listen to it through my SB3 setup. Best audio playback I've ever had in my system.

Charles,

I feel your pain.  My cdp was shelved almost a year ago and now my whole collection is on hard drive.  It is extremely frustrating with a bit of paranoia thrown in to find that a newly purchased cd will not rip.  I mention paranoia, because the first thing I thought of when confronted with the problem was that the RIAA was out to get me; that they had somehow locked me out of my chosen method of play back by placing some sort "security" on the disc.  If you are like me, you will bitch to the very end about the $15 or so you spent on music that you can't playback via your chosen method.  Or, maybe I'm just a little grouchier than most.

Good Luck,

Brett

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Re: Ripping problems. Beware!!
« Reply #14 on: 18 Feb 2007, 06:22 pm »
Brett:

  HaHa!!  Gotcha!! This CD was a gift from a lady. Let's see now. $70. for dinner. $106 for concert tickets. BART fare was about $11. for the both of us. SEE!!! CD didn't cost me a dime.


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Re: Ripping problems. Beware!!
« Reply #15 on: 18 Feb 2007, 08:39 pm »
I've never been able to successfully rip a dual disc CD and would love to find out how. 

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« Reply #16 on: 18 Feb 2007, 09:04 pm »
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HaHa!!  Gotcha!! This CD was a gift from a lady. Let's see now. $70. for dinner. $106 for concert tickets. BART fare was about $11. for the both of us. SEE!!! CD didn't cost me a dime.

Ahh...the gift that keeps on giving. :lol:

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« Reply #17 on: 18 Feb 2007, 09:22 pm »
I've never been able to successfully rip a dual disc CD and would love to find out how. 

I only have a couple, but i've never had any trouble ripping them under linux.

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« Reply #18 on: 19 Feb 2007, 02:15 am »
Never mind the SACD Hybrid issue, I got EAC to work.