I like your informative responses. I think it really adds to the discussion.
Also, I apologize in advance if my follow up sounds like it puts me in a advocate roll, but I think I, and maybe several others need a little more convincing before dropping over a grand on two pairs of interconnect.
[/quote]1) The dielectric between the wires in my cables is not a layer of suspended Teflon, it is mostly air. These other designs have one or two layers of Teflon between the two wires, such as the Bogdan. This increases the dielectric absorption.
I am not seeing that on the Bogdan pictured above. It looks like air only.
Are you saying that this makes it more expensive also or just better, because your response to me was in justifying the additional expense of your higher priced cables. it seams to me that leaving out what is unnecessary would make it cheaper.
2)Durability - none of these cables publish a "pull strength". Mine can typically withstand 50+ pound of pull without any damage. If you gave all of these the pull, crush and bend test, mine would be the only one still working after this IME.
I have never had any durability problems with any that I have made or used.
I have had a flexibility problem with some. The Bogdan pictured here is a good example of cables that might present that problem.
I guess durability is something one could be proud of, but forgive me if I don't give a lot of value to being able to lift a small amp with the interconnects.
3) Metallurgy - I doubt if these other companies have the metallurgy that we do on our wire. This is a trade secret and virtually eliminates the typical silver sibilance.
Ah 99.99% pure Silver from one company may not be as good as the Silver used by another?
Are they cryo treated or something?
I have heard clear differences in power cords that had been treated this way. Is this something that you are referring to?
Since you and I both know that you do not make the wire itself and few companies here in the US actually do, then are you saying you have something special done to the wire after you receive it or something? How is the wire that you receive better?
I have never had a sibilance problem with wire. How can this effect be caused by the wire?
4) Noise rejection - my cables have a geometry that rejects noise.
You mean it is shielded in such a way as to minimize RFI noise or are you saying that you actively filter the noise found in the signal itself? Like the use of a Bybee filter.
Braiding is of coarse also known to cancel out noise. Is your noise rejection more on these lines?
You get what you pay for.
In this market too often you don't get nearly what you pay for. There are companies that are extremely proud of their work. 1 dollars worth of material for every 10 dollars worth of pride doesn't get very far with me.
Sometimes a cable can clearly be better, but each person must ask themselves "is it 10 times as good", because it is 10 times as much, and often even 20 times as much.
I happen not to believe in Bybee filters, particularly the way that they are typically used in power supplies, digital signal paths and on cables. In fact, when I do my mods I typically remove them if they are present in a customers component. I have not found them to be beneficial except to systems where there is a lot of audible sibilance. I prefer to go to the root-cause of the sibilance and eliminate it rather than filtering it out. These bybees just eliminate some of the music when used in this way.
I respectfully disagree with you here.
While you may have control of the noise level your electronics may generate you have no control over the noise level found in your electricity or in the amount of RFI present in a given area.
I am a lucky guy. I live in an area with fairly clean power and little RFI noise.
But if I take a short trip (two hour drive) to Dallas, TX, all is a different story.
The Bybees have there place, and I have not found them to in any way eliminate any part of the music.
As long as it makes you happy. I have a lot of customers that need much better than this. They have extremely resolving systems. Some of them have sources with my mods in them, which makes it doubly important to use very good cables. The source is extremely clean and sibilant-free, so they dont want cables adding any sibilance.[/quote]
I think it is more realistic if I demo a prospective customer a pair of our A/V-1 speakers that I do so with gear they can afford.
I was sold speakers through hi end stores. I once had a store trying out some speaker that I brought in. All sounded great and they loved the speakers, but I thought the $9,000. pair of MIT speaker cables on our $2,000. pair of speakers was a bit unrealistic.
Other speakers we build are among the best sounded and most resolving speakers in the world right now.
Many of the electronics I use are also among the very best made, cost being no object.
If your cables make a noticeable difference I'll know it. If the difference is worth the expense I'll buy it.
Many others here will also. The trick is proving the additional cost is worth the difference. Many others will also question if the price is determined by the performance and what the market will bare or if it is based on the cost to produce. I tend to look at things that way myself.
I am not willing to pay a lot for the pride of others, but do respect the cost involved in producing a product. I may simply look at things that way because I am a manufacturer more often than a consumer.
Care to send out a handful of these for comparison to some of these guys?
Thanks,
