Audiophile Challenge: Best $3000 Setup

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GBB

Re: Audiophile Challenge: Best $3000 Setup
« Reply #40 on: 8 Jan 2007, 01:05 am »
There are so many possibilities with this budget, especially if you consider buying used gear.
I agree with Michael that going after some good used equipment makes a lot of sense in this range.  I'm listening to a system right now that sounds great and was put together for less than $1800

Speakers - Loth Amaze (unfortunately no longer made) new $895.  Got them on close out for $400.  These are full range 6" speakers in a modest size box which have all the full range driver virtues.  Probably a similar unit that's still on the market would be something like the Omega Super 3 at $695 or the Horn Shoppe Model 1 at $800.

Amplifiers - Flying Mole DAD M100pro - List $700, bought used for $450.  Great sounding compact digital amplifiers.

Preamplifer - homebuilt passive preamp using Alps potentiometer.  cost $35.  With the squeezebox listed below you can skip this entirely and drive the amplifiers directly.

Source - Squeezebox 3.  cost $300.  I modified this myself with a better linear supply and a lot of internal mods.  To get the same quality you'd probably need to pay Wayne at Boulder cables $100 for the Elpac power supply mod and $200 for upgrading the digital.  Total cost $600.

DAC - Citypulse 7.2 - this is a bargain at $400 and bests DACs costing much much more.

Digital cable - Stereovox HDXV - bought used on Audigon for $60.

I paid ~ $1650 for all the above.  Add another couple of hundred dollars for your interconnect and power cables of choice and I still spent less than $2000 for a very nice sounding system. 
Replicating it with new equipment available today would add another $1000 and still keep it within your $3000 budget.

---Gary
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Audiophile Challenge: Best $3000 Setup
« Reply #41 on: 8 Jan 2007, 04:14 am »
Just wondering please: Does anybody think that including an entry-level power conditioner (like a PS Audio Duet) in these suggested lineups, would be worthwhile? Or does everyone think it best in a $3000 setup, to always just run everything from the wall and/or cheap-power-strip? :?:

[I'm only just lately looking into power conditioning stuff myself, so answers about this will help me too :)]


Canyoneagle

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« Reply #42 on: 8 Jan 2007, 04:42 am »
Hi Newbuyer,
My system runs on battery power, so the AC is only used to charge batteries, hence no need for conditioning!  8)

I won't try to dip my toe into the discussion of power conditioners, but I feel your query IS justified for an AC system.

Warmly,
Michael

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Re: Audiophile Challenge: Best $3000 Setup
« Reply #43 on: 8 Jan 2007, 05:12 am »
Just wondering please: Does anybody think that including an entry-level power conditioner (like a PS Audio Duet) in these suggested lineups, would be worthwhile? Or does everyone think it best in a $3000 setup, to always just run everything from the wall and/or cheap-power-strip? :?:

[I'm only just lately looking into power conditioning stuff myself, so answers about this will help me too :)]



The first aftermarket powercord I ever tried was an entry-level PS Audio that I bought for around $60.  It made a noticable improvement on my CDP.  For anything digital running off AC, my experience is that any heavy-gauge, shielded PC will likely yield some improvement, for not a lot of money.

As for conditioning - all depends on if you need it or not - if you don't, it's more likely to hurt than help.  Or have no effect.

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Re: Audiophile Challenge: Best $3000 Setup
« Reply #44 on: 8 Jan 2007, 02:47 pm »
There are just so many options. I agree with buying used.

Source: Mac Mini- $600
DAC: Mhdt Labs Constantine USB - $400
Pre-Amp: Promitheus Reference TVC - $500
Amp: B&K EX-442 (200w pch) - $350
Speakers: ADS L-1290 (arguably some of the best towers period) - $600

Total: $2450

This system kicks. I'm ready to swap out the DAC for a tube model, probably the upcoming Promitheus one. Then it's on to tweaking...I'd like to build a really nice solid cherry rack and invest in brass footers for the TVC and B&K. So all in all...around $3K

mcgsxr

Re: Audiophile Challenge: Best $3000 Setup
« Reply #45 on: 8 Jan 2007, 04:40 pm »
If I were doing it all over again, I think I'd try this;

Omega Super 3 XRS (I might wait until they're available with the new hemp drivers though.  Louis has said the introductory price will be the same as the current price: $849) link: http://www.omegaloudspeakers.com/super3xrs.html
Almarro A205AII (this is supposedly a sweet little SEP integrated with two inputs, and also does a fine job driving headphones for $800) link: http://www.responseaudio.com/almarro.htm
Squeezebox 3 for $300

Chad

That is really close to what I would recommend also, as it is really close (in spirit) to what I use...!

I would think a set of the Omega's (there are no bad choices, and many good ones, I would like the A8 or new Hemp version) or the Horn Shoppe Horns = ~$850 (nice high sensitivity in all choices)
Squeezebox 3 = $300
A single ended Class A amp - used Almarro, vintage Magnavox (my choice off eBay), an http://www.ramlabs-musicreference.com/6EM7-13EM7.html or perhaps even a Decware = anywhere from $200-$800

That is roughly $1350-$2000 depending on how each section works out.

That leaves somewhere from $1000-$1600 for any of the following:

Power conditioning
Room treatments
Tube rolling
Mods for the SB3 - I have Bolder's full mods, and use the analog outs directly to my Maggie amp, then to my Visaton b200 open baffle speakers. 

What I use provides an embarrassing riches of sound for loosely $2400, but the open baffle speakers are odd, and WAF is quite low, so I hesitate to offer that up, to a "normal" person!