[jmimac351]

Danny,

If the X-LS Encore Extreme ends up with the Shunyata Research HARP device inside, put me down for a pair - and I can't wait to see renderings of what the baffle with look like!

Carbon Fiber wrap?  Yes! Maybe off a few color options even? Red, White, Black. Carbon Fiber with any of those would be very slick.   

The Encore is the most coherent speaker I've heard.  It sounds like a coaxial speaker, and that's why I've been looking at the MoFi 888.  With this speaker, I won't even fool with that now.  I know how great the Encore is already and to get even better?  Wow.

While we're at it, let me pay you to make a bass module for it... play to low 30hz...

For people who can't / don't want to do Open Baffle, that could be an End Game speaker.  I would buy that speaker all day long...and I bet other people would too.  Let me give you some money. 

Very excited for whatever develops along these lines!   

[corndog71]

If you need more bass then get the X-SLS tower cabinets.

[jmimac351]

If you need more bass then get the X-SLS tower cabinets.

I have plenty of GR 2-ways I can use with subs. I would buy a smaller 2-way rather than a floor-standing one that I'd have to use with subs anyway.   I have heard what the output is with those drivers.  In its lane, it's great.  I'm talking about more than an Encore speaker in a bigger box, from a low end standpoint. 

If the Encore speaker is a great 2-way, how about being the basis for a great, floor-standing, full-range speaker?  Make a statement with it. 

A scaled-up Encore... passive, narrow baffle, floor standing loudspeaker that will play "full range" / "DIG"... not need high pass for the speaker to then hand off to subs.

Some people like "Paper Cone woofer / Soft Dome tweeter"... I sure do.  I certainly don't need another pair of speakers, but I can imagine how great this would be. 

Revel?  Wilson?  I just heard Alexia last weekend at my buddy's place... they don't do "Magic". 

I would rather send Danny thousands of dollars instead of someone else, but I will keep having fun - and I am looking for things that are "Special". 

This is.  This would be some "Magic".

[jmimac351]

Here's a great example of what I'm talking about... these belong to a buddy and were being driven by Pass XA200.5, which I now have. 

It's 2 pieces and they absolutely RIP!  And Danny's would sound better. 

Multiple small drivers, narrow baffle, fast and tight.  Doesn't have to be isobaric... but notice the carbon fiber here.   This just looks cool.

And cool is cool. 

Have easy ways for it to be incorporated via posts, umbilicals, etc. 

Just make something like this available... make it an option.  Develop this, and people will buy it.  Encore customers, Bravo customers, Other Brand Speaker customers... Other brand speaker customers.  Make them a customer then move them up the line.   

Maybe I have bad ideas, but Danny's Encore speaker is a safe bet of yer gonna go BIG!

Besides, maybe it's time to show "The Big Guys" what a proper, narrow baffle, full range speaker is supposed to sound like. 

I will pay good money for that speaker.  Well, that's my idea anyway. 

Have fun.

[Tyson]

X-Static is pretty close to what you want.  Something like this is going to sound a lot better than your friends speaker.  Way better clarity/detail in the midrange due to it being split over 2 midrange drivers, a much more open sound in the soundstage and imaging due to OB mids and very punchy bass due to the dual sealed woofers down low:

[jmimac351]

X-Static is pretty close to what you want -

If it wasn't Open Baffle, and what I'm describing has more low end.  However, make that speaker too!  MTM Full Range.   

Even if it means calling in other low end drivers for special purpose applications, while the concentration for in-house development is on drivers that excel in midrange realism and crossover friendliness.  SB Acoustics, whatever.  There are lots of friendly woofers out there these days... and you know what... some brand names attract people to speakers. 

Make people want it.

[Tyson]

The X-MTM Encores are fully boxed, ported and play down to 35hz and are 90db so easy to drive which will make them very dynamic as well as great midrange clarity and midbass punch:

[Tyson]

Although, if it was me, I'd get a pair of these X-CS speakers, orient them vertically instead of horizontally and put them on top of a pair of dual OB servo subs as stands.  You'd end up with crazy high performance modular tower speakers that would beat just about any tower speaker in the world:

[corndog71]

Oh yeah!  I regret selling my pair of X-CS.  I actually preferred them over X-LS.  They were really good with male vocals and handled more power.

[jmimac351]

The X-MTM Encores are fully boxed, ported and play down to 35hz and are 90db so easy to drive which will make them very dynamic as well as great midrange clarity and midbass punch:

I have always wondered about the MTM and found a pair of the AV123 version locally. I do not like the low end, at all.  The tweeter is different, but the low end is the problem.  "Hollow" sounding.  The bass from my Duette completely outclasses them.



This is what I want, ideally with a few of the lower woofers that are designed to play deep.  Throw a couple 8545s in there... or even just 1!  I had a pair of Odyssey Lorelei and the bass was shocking.  Far superior to the X-MTM version I heard above.

Isn't the LGK 2.4 Tower supposed to be a great speaker?  I want the Encore version of that... with the rear tweeter and the HARP device inside. 

I'm not sure how that is anything other than a great speaker.

The speaker could sit in the same spot as my Encores on their stand.  I understand this is very unlikely to happen, but it's feedback.

[Tyson]

I actually had a speaker a while back called the Elsinore's I believe.  Also DIY.  They used MTM up top like the X-MTM's but then used another 2 woofers for bass and midbass re-enforcement only.  The extra woofers rolled in right where the baffle step happens and allowed for a simplified crossover.  It was a 2.5 way design.  Very clever design and also really good bass (still needed a sub though, IMO).  I think I ended up running mine fully active because I was trying to deal with acoustic bass issues in my room and I eventually went to full OB because I found that no EQ was every sufficient to deal with the bass issues I was facing.  OB solved all of that nicely, in one fell swoop. 

But aren't you getting the Mockingbird's soon?  If so, I promise you, once you get them in your system, you will not be listening to any other speakers, the new line arrays will completely outclass any other speaker.

[Glady86]

I have always wondered about the MTM and found a pair of the AV123 version locally. I do not like the low end, at all.  The tweeter is different, but the low end is the problem.  "Hollow" sounding.  The bass from my Duette completely outclasses them.



This is what I want, ideally with a few of the lower woofers that are designed to play deep.  Throw a couple 8545s in there... or even just 1!  I had a pair of Odyssey Lorelei and the bass was shocking.  Far superior to the X-MTM version I heard above.

Isn't the LGK 2.4 Tower supposed to be a great speaker?  I want the Encore version of that... with the rear tweeter and the HARP device inside. 

I'm not sure how that is anything other than a great speaker.

The speaker could sit in the same spot as my Encores on their stand.  I understand this is very unlikely to happen, but it's feedback.

 I owned a pair of Odyssey Lorelei, probably the longest I ever owned a pair of speakers, before changing to something different. I went through a few pairs since then exploring different designs. Klaus makes some nice stuff and wouldn’t hesitate recommending his products. Though, obviously with OB subs and higher efficiency of the NX Oticas are overall better sounding, especially the bass. But they cost a lot more to.

[corndog71]

To be fair, the AV123 speakers didn’t come with No Rez which makes a big difference.  Swapping out the caps with Sonicaps and good bypass caps also improves performance.

[jmimac351]

Although probably great, I don't want a sealed MTM sitting on OB subs. The Epiphany 20/21 Line Arrays should ship sometime soon and I'm sure will be great.  I just enjoy playing with speakers.

I asked about the AV123 speakers' bass.  If there's a solution to resolve what I described and deliver what I'm asking for here, it wasn't mentioned. 

I have been living with an 8" 2-way that plays into the mid-30's for the past 18 months. 

I wish others could experience how incredible they are, now that they are balanced and "right". 

The Encore is a great speaker, and I want what I want.  Perhaps I'm the only one who wants what I'm describing.

[VinceT]

More fun with speaker design threads...lol

I'm a big fan of Danny's stuff. I have the Encores and the LS9's.