Popori Electrostats - Top of the Food Chain

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Re: Popori Electrostats - Top of the Food Chain
« Reply #20 on: 24 Apr 2025, 01:33 pm »
So am I having once owned the 1+1s.  However, I have also decided that life is far to short not to take some chances and enjoy what is here today and tomorrow.

Talk to some of the Final electrostatic owners who got stuck when they went bankrupt after being unable to meet their warranty claims. Several of these companies are in Europe. I wouldn't want to have to ship these things back for service in any case. I wouldn't worry either about today or tomorrow, but a few years down the road, yeah. I suppose we all have different risk tolerance. I never was much of a gambler and don't suffer from upgrade-itis. I have been an early adopter enough times to learn that established tech is a better fit for me. Pioneers get the arrows...My Acoustat Spectra 6600's satisfy my itch just fine. Best wishes.

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« Reply #21 on: 24 Apr 2025, 04:16 pm »
Mentions in the press with some pricing.  Stereophile & Mono and Stereo

Thanks, Jake! I realize that this information is a couple of years old, but it gives me a good idea of which ballpark we're in.  Much appreciated.

The prices don't seem outrageous at all if we're talking about SOTA sound.  The fact that they also look so good is a nice bonus.

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« Reply #22 on: 25 Apr 2025, 06:53 am »
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I suppose we all have different risk tolerance. I never was much of a gambler.

From what I read, he designer has been repairing and modding electrostats for over 20 years and his repairs are still operational like your Acoustats. So it’s a proven design it looks like.

Back when Acoustat launched I was an early adopter with the model 3s, as were those who bought the spectras.

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« Reply #23 on: 25 Apr 2025, 06:59 am »
How is the image height?

Do you feel like you would like to raise them a foot or so?

I bet these image better than than the larger, wider, models.

Having the highs affected by large bass swings seems like a serious issue. Not happy to hear that.

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« Reply #24 on: 25 Apr 2025, 02:38 pm »
How is the image height?

Do you feel like you would like to raise them a foot or so?

I bet these image better than than the larger, wider, models.

Having the highs affected by large bass swings seems like a serious issue. Not happy to hear that.

Thanks

Rocket Ronny

"How is the image height?"
As a line source the image height is what I would call proportional and realistic.

"Do you feel like you would like to raise them a foot or so?"
My bass towers are 69" tall and my WR3s are 65".  So, a bit taller would be nice.  I have some thoughts on how to raise them.  The WR2s would have been a perfect match, but at twice the price.

"I bet these image better than than the larger, wider, models."
Yes. These are much closer to a point source when it comes to imaging.  Everything is proportional and true to life.  With some wider panel speakers it can seem like one is listening in the land of giants.

"Having the highs affected by large bass swings seems like a serious issue. Not happy to hear that."
No.  Not at all.  That ribbon tweeter in parallel on the larger models that have bass extension down to 30Hz and below, takes care of any potential losses.  Mine only extend to 35Hz, on paper, and so no aditional parallel tweeter is necessay.

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« Reply #25 on: 25 Apr 2025, 03:06 pm »
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No.  Not at all.

You had mentioned before that when low bass notes are played it may affect the highs. Maybe you are talking in theory and not about what your speakers are doing.  Can you elaborate?

I would love to see your idea of raising the speakers. I would raise them at least 1'.

Do you have any idea of how much power you are using to get them to be loud? Would 50 watts come close? I know, how does one answer a question like that, ha.

Anyway, fun talking about this stuff.

Rocket Ronny

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« Reply #26 on: 25 Apr 2025, 07:16 pm »
You had mentioned before that when low bass notes are played it may affect the highs. Maybe you are talking in theory and not about what your speakers are doing.  Can you elaborate?

I would love to see your idea of raising the speakers. I would raise them at least 1'.

Do you have any idea of how much power you are using to get them to be loud? Would 50 watts come close? I know, how does one answer a question like that, ha.

Anyway, fun talking about this stuff.

Rocket Ronny

Yes I did.  It is the physics of a panel speaker.  It takes high excursion to produce low bass.  On models that extend bass below 35Hz highs can be slightly rolled off by that panel.  To correct this those models have a ribbon tweeter in parallel above 7K.  So, those speakers have no loss of highs.  The panel itself may, but not the speaker as a whole.

I was thinking of extending my footers by having some extensions machined.

I know that the WR2s have run well on 25W tube power.  Mine are not quite as efficient at 88 dB.

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Re: Popori Electrostats - Top of the Food Chain
« Reply #27 on: Yesterday at 12:44 pm »


This is the current info for my room.  I do use the Theoretica Applied Physics BACCH and the ORC room correction systems.  As you can see, my impulse response is  near perfect and the frequency response is very good. 

It will look different to you if you have not seen actual in -ear measurements before, as opposed to the standard in-room measurements.  The odd looking chart above 2K is actually quite normal for binaural in ear measurements.  It reflects my own personal fingerprint due to my unique ear Pina.  Each of ours will look different.

I am currently rolling off the Popori WR3s at 57 Hz 48 dB.  The bass towers are taking over at 42 Hz 36 dB.  The gap is taken care of by natural room gain.