Eversolo - How’d They’d Do That?

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AllanS

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Eversolo - How’d They’d Do That?
« on: 4 Jan 2025, 03:42 pm »
Eversolo has certainly made a splash the past couple of years. Parent company Shenzhen Zidoo Technology has been around for 10 years so they don’t appear to be a flash in the pan that’s here today and gone tomorrow. 

But the ignorant and over caffeinated cynic in me, looking at what Eversolo packs into any of their products, can’t help but wonder if their business model is to entrench themselves by buying into a market, undercutting the competition.  Or maybe they’ve fooled everyone and one layer below the tactile and visible surface is inferior implementation of all the audiophile touchstones.  Soon the world will surely come to realize that the king wears no clothes…

Or maybe the darkest side of market forces have successfully corrupted me into believing multiples of Eversolo pricing is really necessary to deliver decent champagne on a beer budget.  Yeah, they’re built in a land of lower but rising costs, but Schiit successfully and seemingly sustainably offers generally well regarded high value, well supported, quality products that are assembled in the US with a lot of domestically sourced components. 

I’m not suspicious of Schiit.  Why would or should I be suspicious of Eversolo? The answer is I probably shouldn’t be.  So it’s a rhetorical question that maybe doesn’t deserve conversation but I can’t escape the feeling that something sinister lurks below the surface and too good to be true isn’t true.

I really should have gotten more sleep and skipped the 3rd cup of coffee. As much as I loved my grandfather, it’s okay to tell me I’m sounding like the same crotchety old shit.

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Re: Eversolo - How’d They’d Do That?
« Reply #1 on: 4 Jan 2025, 05:37 pm »
I've had a DMP-A8 for about half a year. It's well made and reliable so far. It compares favorably to my former Holo May KTE DAC. I was not able to compare them side by side, but the resolution, soundstage, timbre, and other qualities don't jump out as substantially different. I was using the Holo May connected by USB to my Roon NUC (on the suggestion of Kitsune, the US distributor). The Eversolo is connected by ethernet to a dedicated switch with an IfI power supply. So, it's not an apples to apples comparison.

I think the integration of the ethernet streaming input with the DAC is an advantage for the Eversolo. The signal path into the DAC is very short and fully under control of the Eversolo. By contrast, the signal for the Roon NUC is ethernet coming into the Roon NUC, then the NUC sends it out via USB, through a 6-foot USB cable, and then into the Holo May. So, again, it's hard to compare the May as a DAC to the DAC in the Eversolo in isolation.

Also, I use the Eversolo as a Roon endpoint and play local files or Qobuz via the Roon app. 90% of my listening is local files. I've never found the native app in any streamer to be anywhere near as good as Roon sonically or in ease of operation.

I think to substantively improve on the Eversolo, I would get a stand-alone DAC and a high-quality streaming box with I2S output to the DAC. Or I would get an all-in-one streamer/DAC that costs twice as much.

Eversolo obviously launched an aggressive marketing blitz through the shady practices of YouTube reviewers. However, Eversolo did not create those review channels or their suspect practices. And I'm not aware that Eversolo has engaged in behaviors like Tekton and dCS in threatening or filing lawsuits against reviewers who had negative comments about their products.

The pricing of Eversolo products also seems unremarkable. Schiit makes a number of DACs that are less expensive than the Eversolo A6, for example. And the A6 is much more expensive than WiiM or SMSL products. The A6 and A8 seem to be priced to make a profit. You can get a WiiM Amp for $299 with a built-in streamer, Roon endpoint, Sabre DAC, and 60W amp. That's where the real cutthroat cheap pricing is happening, if that's how one wants to interpret it. I own a WiiM Amp and it sounds surprisingly good. It's a very listenable option for a good bedroom or office system.

So, I have not come across a truly objectionable issue with Eversolo's business practices and the quality of the A8 has been excellent in my use case.

artur9

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Re: Eversolo - How’d They’d Do That?
« Reply #2 on: 5 Jan 2025, 03:35 am »
I am of the opinion that Eversolo saw the splash that HiFi Rose made with their streamer/DACs and decided to undercut them.

I have a HiFI Rose and love it.

Early B.

Re: Eversolo - How’d They’d Do That?
« Reply #3 on: 5 Jan 2025, 05:31 am »
I've had a DMP-A8 for about half a year. It's well made and reliable so far. It compares favorably to my former Holo May KTE DAC.

I'm not surprised.  I have an Eversolo A6 with a custom 12V LPS. I compared it to my Lampizator Golden Atlantic TRP DAC which cost thousands more and the differences aren't so much. The main advantage of the Lampizator was better bass resolution, but every other audiophile aspect was similar. I'd love to demo the A10.

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Re: Eversolo - How’d They’d Do That?
« Reply #4 on: 5 Jan 2025, 06:55 am »
 I honestly don’t have any real concerns or suspicions. Being conditioned by all the uber expensive dedicated components, I’ve just been a bit surprised they can pack so much into their products for so little.
 In fact, after too much handwringing, I actually bought a DMP 8A from TMR on Fri.  The handwringing and indecision were unrelated to any concerns about Eversolo.  It was simply about having to choose one path over another.

newzooreview

Re: Eversolo - How’d They’d Do That?
« Reply #5 on: 5 Jan 2025, 04:11 pm »
It will be interesting to hear what you think. I hope you enjoy it!