[drummermitchell]

Was listening to some tracks the other day and something sounded off.
Put my ear up to each driver and also my hand to feel any movement.
The one side all drivers and tweets are good and the other side all good except the pair of mids(no sound).
I even swapped the good mid drivers from the other speaker to which I thought were blown-and same thing(no sound).
These speakers were demos from a dealer so have had them maybe 8 months(20yr warranty.
When I swapped one of the mid drivers for one of the ones I thought were blown I noticed some of the clips that secure to the terminals were very loose and some are quite snug.
Loose as in it slid off with no effort and could move it up and down.(very sloppy connection.

I wonder if a loose connection like that could harm or ruin the mid crossover section.
These were a store demo and discontinued.

Here a pict of the clip

[drummermitchell]

Forgot to add say that installing the mids that worked to the other speaker was the same no sound,so figure it might be the crossover.

[zeeman]

What does this have to do with Bryston?

[JakeJ]

What speakers are these?  The Revel 50A?

He's posting in the Bryston circle because his system almost entirely Bryston.

You should go through the wiring in those speakers to get rid of those POS push-on connectors and solder every connection.  My .02.

[drummermitchell]

Main Q was basically if such loose connectors could cause the mid crossover section to fail.
Vibrations ect.

[James Tanner]

No not the 50A s,actually just sold them on cam today as you cannot get replacement drivers for them anymore.
These speakers are the Bryston A-1s and they are maybe 6 months old from store and purchased from a dealer in Edmonton,so they are new demo model,though now discontinued.
Totally shocked that some connectors were firm and others so loose that basically just touching with your finger and would slide off.
Nothing Like QUALITY CONTROL
Seems like things have been going to the shit show room the last few years,and some dealers say the same.
Oh fucking well.
Took the speaker in for warranty….”let’s see what happens there…and yes I will post back.

Who told you that replacement drivers were not available - totally false information 

[James Tanner]

Main Q was basically if such loose connectors could cause the mid crossover section to fail.
Vibrations ect.

I do not know why those connections would be loose unless someone fiddled with them  They are 'gas fit' connectors and are better than soldering.

james

[drummermitchell]

Ohhh I’m sorry they have a rubber coating on the outside,
ITS STILL the Same FKN CLIP.
Anyway will post picts mid next week.
Hmmm maybe the different purchases I made from different places changed all the connectors We Will see….we will see,
Especially since the A-1s haven’t left the dealers…Supposedley.
Either way I want the Truth even if I’m wrong that someone would change connectors.

PS -Revel did discontinue those drivers in the 50As years ago…..

[JakeJ]

Seems there is some mystery going on here.  If the connectors were originally gas tight (per James) then you should not have been able to disconnect them nor would they fall off.  But what you found would definitely cause a loss of signal.  However, what you have described does not sound like any component in the crossover has failed.  You may find loose connections there too (re my rec to check wiring).

Still, the mystery is not revealed.  Speculation: The speakers, used as demos, may have been subjected to abuse during their time on the showroom floor.  The dealer may have "refreshed" them for sale.  This would explain the loose connectors.  The OP might  contact Bryston directly and send them his serial numbers as corporate may have record of replacement drivers being sent out.

Yes, please keep us posted.

[drummermitchell]

[drummermitchell]

And another of inside cavity





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[drummermitchell]

The FEMALE Connection just slides off with NO RESISTANCE Whatsoever.
Obviously a little ticked.
Will shoot back about the serial.

[James Tanner]

There is no call for this kind of language.

[gil99]

Bryston has the best service around and they do more than any other brand when you need service, I know because I own more Bryston component that you probably have and when I needed some help or service it was first rate, I don't know why you need to be that arrogant, no need for that here. They don't deserve that. Will stay polite here.
Gilles, owner of Bryston components for more than 20 years, always been seve well.

[SteveFord]

It only takes a moment to fix a loose connector with a pair of needle nose pliers.

[James Tanner]

So Don

How can I help?
Not sure what service you need?

james

[drummermitchell]

James,
it would be nice to know if there was ANY service work on the A-1's or even if some drivers were replaced.

Serial#4530017808002/4
I bought these as in store demo from AA(Edmonton) 11/05/22 as they were discontinued.
Their invoice # on the sales invoice is 134285.

Since i swapped a good mid to the non working mid,it was the same thing(dead).
i'd assume the crossover,yet maybe in the crossover some wires came loose or even at the back of those plastic enclosures.

Seems since I took that speaker to AA(not Al-Anon) last week,
They said they were going to call Mike to what see he wanted to do.
Went in two days ago and they haven't called or even emailed mike.
They keep saying well take care of it.
Seem like now when i go there if I buy something you get attention,
Service.....seems to be sliding.
Remember a few years back if something wasn't in their store and you ordered it was here in a month or just a bit more and the same with sending in for warranty repair or replacement.
its like no one gives a S- - - -

[drummermitchell]

Bryston has the best service around and they do more than any other brand when you need service, I know because I own more Bryston component that you probably have and when I needed some help or service it was first rate, I don't know why you need to be that arrogant, no need for that here. They don't deserve that. Will stay polite here.
Gilles, owner of Bryston components for more than 20 years, always been seve well.

So tell me then since you have way more components than I Have,HOW MANY DO YOU HAVE
Especially since you THINK you have MORE than I .

[James Tanner]

James,
it would be nice to know if there was ANY service work on the A-1's or even if some drivers were replaced.

Serial#4530017808002/4
I bought these as in store demo from AA(Edmonton) 11/05/22 as they were discontinued.
Their invoice # on the sales invoice is 134285.

Since i swapped a good mid to the non working mid,it was the same thing(dead).
i'd assume the crossover,yet maybe in the crossover some wires came loose or even at the back of those plastic enclosures.

Seems since I took that speaker to AA(not Al-Anon) last week,
They said they were going to call Mike to what see he wanted to do.
Went in two days ago and they haven't called or even emailed mike.
They keep saying well take care of it.
Seem like now when i go there if I buy something you get attention,
Service.....seems to be sliding.
Remember a few years back if something wasn't in their store and you ordered it was here in a month or just a bit more and the same with sending in for warranty repair or replacement.
its like no one gives a S- - - -

OK whats the number at the store you took the speakers to and I will have Mike call them.
You think its the crossover?

james

[drummermitchell]

Thanks James,
780-453-6624
Simon from AA mentioned that could be crossover.
I swapped a working mid from the other speaker and same thing no sound.
Only things it could be is as mentioned the crossover or some loose wiring somewhere as what I found when I took out the first mid driver(two mids in the cabinet don’t work.
Tweets and bass drivers do.