[R. Daneel]

Hi James!

Is the BDP line of digital players being discontinued? I can no longer see it on your website.

If so, I'd like to buy a few parts in case I need them in the future. Can you please tell me whom to contact?

Cheers - Antun

[James Tanner]

Hi Antun - the 3.14 is staying in the line as well as the DAC 3 DAC and BCD-3 CD Player

james

[R. Daneel]

Hi Antun - the 3.14 is staying in the line as well as the DAC 3 DAC and BCD-3 CD Player

james

Hi James and thanks for the reply!

OK, the devices you've mentioned will remain in production but the BDP-3 will not? Is this the end of the BDP dedicated digital players then?

Also, I'd appreciate it if you could tell me whom to contact with respect to spare parts.

Cheers,
Antun

[James Tanner]

Yes the BDP-3 is gone.
Email Jim Spence on the parts. 
jspence@bryston.com

james

[drummermitchell]

bdp’s all done and keeping a CD player,That’s a WTF moment.
Is there some other digital player coming than a cd player or staying.
If not time to jump ship.

[R. Daneel]

Yes the BDP-3 is gone.
Email Jim Spence on the parts. 
jspence@bryston.com

james

Thanks James! Will do!

Though I don’t like the decision to stop the BDP production, I knew it would eventually happen as the market seems to be moving towards integrated solutions where streaming, D-A conversion and even amplification are incorporated into a single device.

I would like to ask you for your opinion on something though. Please give me some rope here but I will ty to get to the point quickly.

I still own the BDP-2 digital player, BDA-2 DAC and BHA-1 headphone amplifier. These three components are used exclusively together. The BDP-2 and BDA-2 are connected through AES/EBU which both of them support. Though these are three separate devices, they have obviously been designed in such a way that in order to get the most out of them, they must be used together. It is therefore a system, one whole.

To confirm this, I tried to introduce a high-end and very expensive streamer and it did not sound as good.

To get to the point – if you take one of these components out of the system, it loses something. The problem, of course, is that no one can expect for these to work indefinitely and at one point, one of the components will die. When that happens, the system will no longer be one whole. It is also reasonable to assume that spare parts will not be available for an unlimited amount of time either.

Since the BHA-1 headphone amplifier is a fully discrete analogue design, it will most certainly be serviceable in the future and I am not concerned about that. My concern are the BDP-2 digital player and BDA-2 DAC. I wanted to hear your opinion on this and whether the contact you have kindly provided will be able to comment on possible points of failure and which spare parts would be worth getting.

I appreciate any input you might provide.

All the best,
Antun

[James Tanner]

Hi Antun

No one can predict the future but all our products are modular in design so the hope is if some circuit is not available any longer that particular part can be replaced with the newer version.
Hopefully that buys us some longevity going forward.

best
james

[R. Daneel]

Hi Antun

No one can predict the future but all our products are modular in design so the hope is if some circuit is not available any longer that particular part can be replaced with the newer version.
Hopefully that buys us some longevity going forward.

best
james

Understood, James! Thank you!

Best wishes,
Antun

[vonnie123]

@Antun,

Curious.  Which player did you compare it to?  Seems to me the various streamers would perform similarly. The differences would be in the component DAC circuitry. 

The integrated solutions have taken hold pretty well.  Especially those that can pair up with Roon.

[R. Daneel]

@Antun,

Curious.  Which player did you compare it to?  Seems to me the various streamers would perform similarly. The differences would be in the component DAC circuitry. 

The integrated solutions have taken hold pretty well.  Especially those that can pair up with Roon.

The contemporary Naim 'classic series' digital player connected to BDA-2 with a coax cable. There were others but this was the most expensive one.

[alexone]

…the BDP is gone forever?? Leads to the question if it’s a good sign or a bad sign for (Bryston) digital products in general   If Bryston should ever release a new digital product - what type would it be??

Is the SP3 gone, too??

al.

[zoom25]

I'm guessing that's the end of Nutty Narwhal/OS3 development?

(I've been out of touch as of late...will use BDP-1 occasionally as Roon endpoint )

[gil99]

Is a 3.14 a BDP-3 with a dac (BDA-3)?

[drummermitchell]

Well for my digital side as we all know digital products fail and so will my BDP-2 and BDA-3.
Have had the BCD-1 and BDA-2 fail years ago.
I'll never own an all in one as it will be useless until its repaired.
Have been using a TASCAM SS CDR 250N for CD and Thumb drive play back in my small studio for quite a few years and no problems yet.
Going tp buy another to connect to the Bryfi(analog side)as the computer in the bryfi has  been very unreliable since purchased.
The Tascam is pricey but is RELIABLE.
Perhaps a Benchmark dac to go with it as they are reliable also.
No tunes no happy.
The wife still says she'll buy me a real nice radio,she might be right as a radio Lasts and lasts .

[cmccaul]

Following up on Zoom25's question.  Is OS3 development dead?

[jobiwon]

I see questions arise on other news groups inquiring about streamers with no storage or DAC.   (e.g PS Audio AirLens or Moon Mind2) That has Toslink, SPDIF, AES/EBU,I2s. is there a market for ROON endpoints like this and other server endpoints?  Maybe a product like a beef'd up Pi that has a compact footprint and high quality internals?  My Pi works great as a ROON Endpoint.

[zeeman]

bdp’s all done and keeping a CD player,That’s a WTF moment.
Is there some other digital player coming than a cd player or staying.
If not time to jump ship.

The BDP units are outdated and unnecessary in a modern product mix and no longer required as there's still the BDA-3 DAC and BDA-3.14 DAC/Streamer (which does everything the BDP did).  If you love the BDA you're using then continue to enjoy it.  Why would you jump ship?

[James Tanner]

HI folks

OS3 is still in the works and given the smaller more powerful computers of today different products will be developed.

james

[alexone]

…talking about smaller computers…i‘ve tried a few (portable) daps like Hiby, Fiio, Shanling during the last few months with good results. Pretty versatile units with analog/digital ins and outs. Hires playback up to DSD, storage (up to 4tb!!) is on micro sd, wireless playback and so on - all in a small package (depending on the model). However, mostly  i‘m using the analog out via RCA into my B135 Cubed and B60. So all in all pretty impressive what a ‚small computer’ can do…😎

al.

[zoom25]

I'm guessing (and hoping!) that the newer digital/streaming solutions from Bryston will incorporate support for multiple different streaming services (Tidal, Qobuz, Amazon Music, Roon, Spotify...Spotify Connect?).

I do think local storage music playback of your own music has gone down rapidly. I've been collecting and storing my own music for 20+ years but last 2-3 years I've slowly stopped altogether when I added Amazon Music for lossless playback. With cell phone plans offering good data, phones having big storage space for offline playback and of course home internet being more than fast enough, there isn't really a bandwidth, cost, or storage bottleneck like there has been in the past.

The biggest issue remains which devices (or their combinations) work with what streaming services. Tidal and Qobuz are usually always available with most devices or services (Roon, Audirvana, even BDP). However, Spotify, Aople Music, and Amazon aren't always available.

Spotify - still no lossless, but best playlists/suggestions usually. Also, they don't allow other services to use their music without also accompanying their full product. Biggest library amongst them all. All the niche stuff.

Amazon - best pricing on a yearly bundle (but not always available)

Apple Music - terrible desktop experience. Good on iOS I guess. Haven't tried it in awhile

Tidal - I think MQA is sorted out finally, so might check up on it again.

Qobuz - maybe slightly pricier last time I checked. Library not as deep.

I'd like to see more integration of these streaming services with Bryston BDP (or whatever comes after) going forward. Spotify Connect in particular I've been waiting 10+ years and it never came to BDP. I remember Cambridge CXN's came out around that time and it had Spotify Connect. Nearly went for the CXN at that time due to it, but held on to Bryston for local music and possible sound advantage. If I was making that decision today, I'd 100% priorities the availability of streaming services.