JVC RX-D201/301 receivers

fabaudio · « **Reply #20 on:** 6 May 2005, 08:33 pm »

Dennis
I'll gladly be the Guinee pig. Are you financing

tubeytubeamp · « **Reply #21 on:** 6 May 2005, 08:38 pm »

Sorry,

The Funds are not available at this time. I would gladly do it if I had the cash to throw away. I would be the guinee pig of course.

Dennis

fabaudio · « **Reply #22 on:** 6 May 2005, 09:04 pm »

Richard
It was you and your now classic ode to the F10, Chairguy,Dmason and others that turned me on to the JVC. At the time I had a Panny 45- great for HT but does not convey the emotion inherent in music very well. It also lacks presence IMHO.

fabaudio · « **Reply #23 on:** 6 May 2005, 09:34 pm »

Let me re-phrase my observations on the Panny 45. One of the reasons why it does not convey the emotion inherent in music very well is because of its lack of presence.
Frank

-Richard- · « **Reply #24 on:** 6 May 2005, 11:07 pm »

Hi fabaudio,

"...It was you and your now classic ode to the F10..."

I assume you are suggesting that there is something missing
in my posts...after all I do not mention my F10 and what it is
doing in my current system...

Alas! I pinched the banana plugs on my speaker cables so they
would fit into the back of the F10's flimsy spring loaded inserts...

As I pushed the now thin banana plugs in...out sprang the springs!!!

OK...no big problem there...but over time...the thin metal plate thingies
in the back of the speaker plugs managed to get pushed back until they
touched some essential and sensitive electronic parts and whammo!!!
the F10 went into shock from which it has never recovered...a short out!!

I brought my F10 to the local JVC repair man...he charged me $75.00 just
to look at it...then declared it was my fault and would not satisfy the warrantee...
for slightly less than $200. he would attempt to fix it for me...hummmmmmmmm

I would rather buy a new unit then give that rat any more of my money...

I cannot tell you how many times I wished I still had my F10...alive and well...
to try out on my Omega speakers with their Fostex 207E drivers at 96db's...

But as ChairGuy will confirm...on the Maggies they were sheer musical
ambrosia...the real thing!...as if made for the Maggies...synergy...synergy...

So after that I was going to purchase another one...but then I noticed that
the newest...the third...iteration was coming out and I decided to wait...

And here we all are...looking and wondering...and checking our wallets to
see if we have the funds and specs to see if they have the goods...

So can anyone tell if 2 channel purity is preserved by looking at the
specs? If it is I will purchase one.

Warm regards -Richard-

fabaudio · « **Reply #25 on:** 7 May 2005, 03:08 am »

Richard
Just finished watching a great movie on my 8ft screen

I know of your misfortune with the F10. I'm retired ( pianist ) so I have a lot of time to burn. I follow AC in general and in particular guys whose opinions Iv'e learned to trust and respect. BTW my F10 must have over 1000 hours on it - never had a problem. It never ceases to amaze me - 230 bucks!!!

Frank

jswallac · « **Reply #26 on:** 7 May 2005, 03:32 am »

Richard, I agree with mcgsxr regarding quality. I may be the source of some of the things you read. I bought two of the JVCs and returned each before finally getting a keeper. My problem may have been where I bought them, an eBay retailer here in Southern Cal. They seem to buy up a lot of returns and resell them. When I brought back the first one they did not even bother to learn what was wrong, instead they just checked to see that everything was there and put it back in stock! My third, (bought from a different source) has been a trooper. It does have a tube like sound to my ears, but it iws not quite there. I love it for its price and for how convenient it is, but I will likely end up going back to tubes.

One question, I thought you have found sonic nirvana in the form of a Clari-T? Does it have a chink in its armor? Some reason to go back to the JVC?

fabaudio · « **Reply #27 on:** 7 May 2005, 05:54 am »

I think that Richard, since he doesn't have the F10 around anymore, has that lingering,nagging thought of what it would sound like with the Omegas. He likes the Clari-T but you know how it is... one wants to dispel any doubts.

-Richard- · « **Reply #28 on:** 7 May 2005, 06:44 am »

Ah yes Fabaudio...we men are all former hunters who
have been formally domesticated and tranquilized into
more moderate pursuits...between religions and the
state we are conditioned to believe that our "instincts"
are not to be trusted...instead a "rational" construct...
a linear truth has been inserted where once a powerful
tuning device brought us face to face with the unknown...
with the great mystery...

So now we turn whatever fragment of that once powerful
awareness into the reduced scale of searching for sound
that satisfies our tribal sense of connectedness...

Audio is nothing less than an attempt to reclaim our tribal
birthright...our connectedness with the source...

We do not know any longer how to connect to the source...
that is the secret behind the success of religions to claim the
ground that we once all felt and understood as our own...
so we turn our attention to finding a "sound" that brings on
the "zone" of the mysterious...in order to confirm to ourselves
that the mysterious is real...and music is our portal to that zone...

Its throbbing cadences...its foundation made up of heart beats...
its emotional undulations resonate with our bodies need to feel...
and feeling has been dragged from us by the powerful forces of
control that would deny us the right to feel...deeply...

Music puts that back...music heals our loss of the great mystery...
music places the "beat" into our hearts again...music lifts us to a higher
plane of feeling...music releases us from the constraints of the
over-reaching emphasis on the rational mind, which erases our
bodies need to feel, which moves the center of our being from the
heart to the head, where it dies from loneliness...

Music brings us back to the tribal state of innocence...of joy and
and the shared language of anguish...

Different amps do different things...once I realized that the sound
of a single wide range speaker with no crossovers put me in the zone...
it was natural that I would want to see what different amps could do
to bring about their potential for magic...

And I am still interested in cheap digital amps that are part of the emerging
paradigm of the new audio...and it is nice to have a cheap digital around
for among other things the breaking in of new speakers...or just to shift
ones attention from the continuity of a single sound no matter how
beautiful or convincing...

So far tubes and digital are doing things for the music that are quite
extraordinary...SS seems like a dead branch on the evolutionary tree
of audio life...however not CD's...the lowly CD with my tubed pentoid
amp sounds so alive...so palpable...so present...that I am immediately
taken to the zone...from where I can launch myself into the tribal
realm of pure feeling...that has the power to turn off the busy-bee-brain
and release me from its terrible ordeals...

Warm regards -Richard-

dvdvideo · « **Reply #29 on:** 13 May 2005, 05:20 pm »

Somebody should buy one of these....jandr has them both in stock now.......I would but I am in Canada.....

JuryDuty · « **Reply #30 on:** 14 May 2005, 02:10 pm »

I've got the 202 on order from Amazon along with the 420 DVD player, whenever they get them in stock. But I'm waiting for Amazon's stock because I love their liberal return policy.

tschanrm · « **Reply #31 on:** 19 May 2005, 06:32 pm »

Looking over at JandR, I noticed that JVC is also releasing a new wood cone micro system with wireless pc link as well, EX-D5. Also, I finally found out what formats the wireless link supports; it seems to be only MP3

-at least thats what JandR says. The EX-D1 had wma/mp3 support through its USB input, but I would have hoped that they would have added support of a lossless format as well to these next generation receivers. Thats a real bummer, as the rx201/301 probably only support wma/mp3 as well.

dvdvideo · « **Reply #32 on:** 19 May 2005, 11:22 pm »

If they do wma one could hope for wma lossless......

Jon L · « **Reply #33 on:** 20 May 2005, 03:28 am »

I just 'knew' the wireless thing was too good to be true

Horizons · « **Reply #34 on:** 20 May 2005, 05:23 pm »

Quote from: Otis

Oh no, as if the choice of JVC receivers wasn't hard enough already, now amazon has put the F10 on sale for $190. Sheesh!

Thanks for the heads-up. I just pulled the trigger on my second JVC F10. These units are a screaming bargain at $190 INCLUDING shipping.

tubeytubeamp · « **Reply #35 on:** 20 May 2005, 06:25 pm »

Do you have a link for the OfficeDepot deal?

Jack Gilvey · « **Reply #36 on:** 20 May 2005, 08:04 pm »

Quote

Thanks for the heads-up. I just pulled the trigger on my second JVC F10. These units are a screaming bargain at $190 INCLUDING shipping.

I second the thanks...that price and 1-click and it's done.

mcgsxr · « **Reply #37 on:** 20 May 2005, 08:05 pm »

I wish they would ship them to Canada, from their Canadian locations, I would bite at that price too!

alexs · « **Reply #38 on:** 22 May 2005, 12:46 am »

Quote from: Horizons

Quote from: Otis
Oh no, as if the choice of JVC receivers wasn't hard enough already, now amazon has put the F10 on sale for $190. Sheesh!

Thanks for the heads-up. I just pulled the trigger on my second JVC F10. These units are a screaming bargain at $190 INCLUDING shipping.

If you don't mind my asking, why did you buy a second F10? Are you using the amp only and needed a second amp? As a back up maybe? I am torn between these $190.00 deal and the new Panasonic SA XR55 for $264.00 shipped. Have you experienced any heat issues at all with the JVC? Is the processor that bad you would rule this receiver for home theater use? Any shutdown issue at all? My speakers are 86db 6 ohms if that helps. Thanks for your help.

IanS · « **Reply #39 on:** 22 May 2005, 05:09 am »

Quote from: Otis

Tubeytubeamp, try this -- it's a link through Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0007XH742/qid=1116617873/sr=1-45/ref=sr_1_45/104-5970394-6263969?v=glance&s=merchant&n=1064952&m=A3T4TT2Z381HKD

I have an Outlaw 1050 and I'd like Dolby II and I've been thinking of trying a digital receiver for a while. Is there any reason I shouldn't go for this deal on the JVC?

Also, is it possible to hookup a USB 802.11b/g adapter to connect this to a computer, like the more expensive model?

Thanks, Ian