Virtual Dynamics Power Cords

MaxCast · « **on:** 29 Mar 2003, 11:02 pm »

Anybody using these? I've seen the adds at Agon. Seems pretty cheep for the Basic ($40)and Power 3 ($80). Almost ready to say WTF and get a few.

jcoat007 · « **Reply #1 on:** 30 Mar 2003, 01:39 am »

There was somebody over on HD that used a lot of tjeir products and really liked them.

Let us know if you take the plunge. I have been tempted as well. The price is certainly right.

witchdoctor · « **Reply #2 on:** 30 Mar 2003, 03:14 am »

I use the VD Power 3 on the amps in my active speakers, the Audition on my pre-amp , and the
NITE on my transport.

I have switched these cords around and find the Power 3 is best suited
for my amps. Switching to the NITE cable was not a dramatic difference.
I use a HTPC as my transport, the NITE completely changed the sound.
I think the Power 3 is a great cord for the price. Extremely solid performance and great clarity.
But the NITE is an investment that can completely improve your system, like going from mid fi to high end.
Rick at VD will let you audition, my advice is to try one of each and to
start placing them on your front end components first.

System- HTPC>GW Labs DSP>Mensa Art/DiO from Bolder> Sunfire TG3>
3 Paradigm Active 40 Speakers, 2 Paradigm Active 20 Speakers
Monster HTS 7000 PLC
8th Nerve Acoustic Room Treatment
Bolder Digital IC
Bogdan Audio Silver Bullet IC's
Various VD PC

byteme · « **Reply #3 on:** 31 Mar 2003, 05:09 pm »

I've got a couple (power 3 and power 1) that I like very much. However, I haven't compared them to anything else since they were my first cords. However, for the $$ I think they are very good.

Beezer · « **Reply #4 on:** 31 Mar 2003, 06:32 pm »

I have a couple Power 3 cords I want to sell - $100 shipped. PM me if you're interested.

Beez

TheChairGuy · « **Reply #5 on:** 1 Apr 2003, 02:39 am »

In a somewhat different price range, check out the interesting technology on new PS Audio cords. Whoaa - somebody has been up nights thinking at PS Audio!

www.psaudio.com

KKM · « **Reply #6 on:** 1 Apr 2003, 06:54 pm »

Probably more info then you need on the VD:

http://www4.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=218825#post218825

MaxCast · « **Reply #7 on:** 1 Apr 2003, 08:23 pm »

Quote from: KKM

Probably more info then you need on the VD:

http://www4.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=218825#post218825

Whooo! I'll have to go back to that one. thanks for the link, KKM

Tyson · « **Reply #8 on:** 1 Apr 2003, 08:42 pm »

I think a doctor is a more reliable source of info on the VD. Remeber, through treatment, it can be controlled.

Carlman · « **Reply #9 on:** 1 Apr 2003, 11:06 pm »

I agree. Control is key.

I was on the edge of buying a few of the power 3's. But, I put in a call to them and the guy I talked to started telling me God had told him to start producing these cables. I talked to some other people that had used them and they thought they sounded OK but, nothing special.

The thing that really turns me off to any product is zealous advocates. There's a handful of real VD enthusiasts on AA and other places that 'sing the praises' every time there's a question. It's the same thing with the Odyssey amps. Too many 100% A+ type reviews and comments. Nothing is perfect... and not everyone can find that one thing is the best.... unless of course, it's a religion... hmmm.

I guess what I'm saying is, objectively, the cables are probably pretty good but, if you truly believe they are great, they will be... Of course, if you truly believe, it won't take long to work your way up the ladder for higher priced cables from VD.

Maybe I'm cynical but, the 'zealousness' that surrounds this product really turns me away. I'm still in the 'good power cords are great, better power cords are great too' camp. I guess I just haven't heard them make enough of a difference to pay hundreds or thousands of dollars to connect to the .06/foot wire that's in the walls.

witchdoctor · « **Reply #10 on:** 1 Apr 2003, 11:16 pm »

What power cords have you tried?
Would you prefer to try power cords that don't get good feedback?
If I want cheerleading I'll read Stereophile. If I want people who use a products opinion I'll read this board. If I want to form my own opinion I'll order the product and listen to it. If I'm still unsure I'll have my friends
listen to it during a double blind test.
Please review the product, not the reviewers OK?

Carlman · « **Reply #11 on:** 2 Apr 2003, 03:16 am »

I agree to a degree... and if I get a chance to review these specific cords, I will. I can't help but review the reviewers. It's tough to buy everything. If I get a feel for the reviewer, I can fairly well understand whether it's a worthwhile product. So far, everything I've reviewed in person that's been hyped has been OK but, not even close to deserving the hype.

I stopped surfing the other boards because of the zealots. If people here have used them and think they're great.... good. I hope they compare them to what they bested and in what ways. Otherwise, the review here or anywhere isn't of much use.

I just hope this board doesn't turn into a zealot board like AA or Audiogon... where everything is the best ever at half the price....

CE · « **Reply #12 on:** 4 Apr 2003, 03:16 am »

Over there they have Jon Risch, wire nudnick. He hears the sound of AC outlets and the difference in sound between TEFLON and PVC insulation. The guy is in BIZZARO world. Of course since I can't I'm just not at his level of sophistication, as I've been told my system just ain't good enough to do it. My 2 AVA/Hafler DH500 amps in to(Bi-amp) Legacy audio FOCUS speakers, Philips SACD 963 etc etc..just not good enough for his world of Bizzare effects of PLASTIC www,avahifi.com www.legacy-audio.com www.sacd.philips.com

transam · « **Reply #13 on:** 4 Apr 2003, 05:04 am »

I'm have 2 power3 on my mono blocks and one on my sacd1000.The sound change from the stock power cords to these was well,SMOKEN.I still need 2 more for my martin logan acsents.

CE · « **Reply #14 on:** 4 Apr 2003, 05:09 am »

Why stop there, change the NM wire out to the service panel. Then out to the street transformer. Call teh power company to redo teh wires to teh generating plant. Why do only the lst 6 feet? Just how dumb is the idea that a piece of wire has a sound quality? If I chagne teh cord on my tv, will it improve it? How bout' my electric toothbrush charger base?

theborg · « **Reply #15 on:** 4 Apr 2003, 05:50 am »

CE: kindly take a few minutes to read through the FAQ:

http://www.audiocircle.com/circles/faq.php

After that, you may wish to consider taking a break for a while, and coming back in a friendlier frame of mind.

Regards

Borg

MaxCast · « **Reply #16 on:** 4 Apr 2003, 12:11 pm »

Thank you, Borg! Oh....and aaah..happy birthday

TheeeChosenOne · « **Reply #17 on:** 8 Apr 2003, 12:35 am »

Here's some interesting threads on VD:

http://www4.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18750

http://www4.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?s=b595adda007ec92ebd0fd1187295c037&threadid=10311&highlight=bpt+power+cord

CE · « **Reply #18 on:** 8 Apr 2003, 08:44 am »

Reading that write up, sure do contain lotsa' verbage. Too bad it's all more verbal ramblings. When anybody uses the term "EXOTIC" to describe Teflon insulation, I know they have no idea what is going on. PTFE, Nylon, "hospital grade" wiring devices are all commodity products, so much so DuPont may not make Teflon and Nylon anymore, can't make any money on it. They invented it, patents are out, it's made by many other companies. Nothing "exotic' about it. When the type of wall outlet changes the sound of an amplifier or CD player, I then know, it pure nonsense.

Jay S · « **Reply #19 on:** 8 Apr 2003, 08:54 am »

Should you therefore buy the cheapest possible 15 amp duplex outlet available at Home Depot or other such store?

I agree with you that there is a lot of BS out there. Teflon is certainly not exotic. I think it would be more responsible to describe Teflon as a better performing insulation.

I've done back to back comparisons of a dedicated line with a quality outlet vs. a run-of-the-mill wall outlet. Based on this experience, I have to disagree that power/outlet quality don't make a difference.