Caintuck Audio The Lii 15 Baffles

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Re: Caintuck Audio The Lii 15 Baffles
« Reply #120 on: 22 Sep 2020, 10:44 pm »
Hi,
In this case my strong preference are the F15 mainly due the gorgeous range performance from 100 to 400Hz where a big cone shine, not to mention the bass under 100Hz in the suited BR box.

I could suggest the Lii suited box(290L) with 1 or 2 round BR ducts or even better a bigger one.

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I'll keep that in mind for the F15, thank you. What you're saying means you've confirmed this design, right?

https://www.lii-audio.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/f-15-design.jpg

So what would it be like if a bf was designed with crystal 10 and W-15?

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Re: Caintuck Audio The Lii 15 Baffles
« Reply #121 on: 23 Sep 2020, 03:38 am »
I'll keep that in mind for the F15, thank you. What you're saying means you've confirmed this design, right?
I have not listened this Lii box but since you have no space for a OB panel this project seems suited to you. My first option always could be a OB for the over 200-300Hz, but for bass I could prefer a hi efficiency woofer as Eminence Kappa 3015 in a 180L BR box, the Lii woofer seems anemic 91dB and expensive.
https://www.eminence.com/speakers/speaker-detail/?model=Kappalite_3015

The Lii 10'' and W15 in the same box will not work due different efficiency 91/99dB not to mention comb filter effect.

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Re: Caintuck Audio The Lii 15 Baffles
« Reply #122 on: 23 Sep 2020, 11:43 am »
Would you recommend crystal 10 for open baffles?

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"The Lii 10'' and W15 in the same box will not work due different efficiency 91/99dB not to mention comb filter effect."

Is sensitivity as important as bf in the Open baffle project? I think the sensitivity of crystal 10 has been reduced to w15 in this project.

http://www.modelpromo.nl/The%20Liiondias%20Open%20Baffle%20Speaker.htm

"The Lii woofer seems anemic 91dB and expensive."

Why is Leon insistent on using w15? Is just sensitivity and power the point to look at when choosing a woofer?(when combining with these full range drivers) Sound characteristic etc?


Edit: I've learned this information, i don't know how accurate it is, but does it change anything?

W-15:
2.83V: 91.3dB (single voice coil)
2.83V: 95.6 dB (dual voice coil)

It's best to look at w-15 frequency analysis.


KAPPALITE 3015
Isn't performance in this area more important? Serious drop from 100hz to 50hz.

https://ibb.co/Vj4mGGh


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Re: Caintuck Audio The Lii 15 Baffles
« Reply #123 on: 23 Sep 2020, 10:35 pm »
Many questions, tô connect two drivers without xover correction the VC have tô be idêntical.

Só upon this If your amp work well I 4 ohms you could connect 2 F15 in parallel.

One for bass in a BR box, other tô OB over 200Hz.

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Re: Caintuck Audio The Lii 15 Baffles
« Reply #124 on: 29 Sep 2020, 11:08 am »
Many questions, tô connect two drivers without xover correction the VC have tô be idêntical.

Só upon this If your amp work well I 4 ohms you could connect 2 F15 in parallel.

One for bass in a BR box, other tô OB over 200Hz.

Yes there were too many questions, sorry. Now I know what I want. All I want to know is whether the woofer you show as an example is the best option to match the crystal in this brand. If I want to build a cabinet with two speakers (crystal + woofer), what should the cabinet dimensions be? Thank you for giving a time.

https://www.eminence.com/speakers/speaker-detail/?model=Kappalite_3015

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Re: Caintuck Audio The Lii 15 Baffles
« Reply #125 on: 30 Sep 2020, 12:40 am »
This Eminênce Woofer is my personal favorite what may not be your taste.

I have a 180L BR project I can pm you tommoroW.

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Re: Caintuck Audio The Lii 15 Baffles
« Reply #126 on: 30 Sep 2020, 12:42 am »
For the Eminence I prefer a 180L slanted BR box.

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Re: Caintuck Audio The Lii 15 Baffles
« Reply #127 on: 30 Sep 2020, 01:09 am »
The 10"" cone are só Light that the Woofer bass will distúrb the 10 cone movement, both in the same box are not recommended.
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Re: Caintuck Audio The Lii 15 Baffles
« Reply #128 on: 30 Sep 2020, 02:26 pm »
I'm receiving my Lii F15 OP speakers today from Randy!!!! Man it's been a heck of a month waiting but I'm stoked  :D

Sorry, "Now back to your regular scheduled program"

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Re: Caintuck Audio The Lii 15 Baffles
« Reply #129 on: 30 Sep 2020, 03:43 pm »
Cancel that, UPS just notified me that it will be delayed for an additional day. :(

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Re: Caintuck Audio The Lii 15 Baffles
« Reply #130 on: 30 Sep 2020, 04:01 pm »
I suggest getting some extra sleep today and tonight because once you get you speakers from Randy, you can bet that you will have a few late nights of re-listening to your library of music and shaking your head at all the "music" you will hear.

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Re: Caintuck Audio The Lii 15 Baffles
« Reply #131 on: 30 Sep 2020, 07:22 pm »
I suggest getting some extra sleep today and tonight because once you get you speakers from Randy, you can bet that you will have a few late nights of re-listening to your library of music and shaking your head at all the "music" you will hear.

I am so ready for that, had my afternoon cleared today for it but alas I moved some things around to clear it for tomorrow.

Music will be playing non-stop... Send help

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Re: Caintuck Audio The Lii 15 Baffles
« Reply #132 on: 30 Sep 2020, 07:37 pm »
Here is a photo of my setup. Triode Labs SET 2A3 amp with a whooping 3.5watt drives them perfectly!


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Re: Caintuck Audio The Lii 15 Baffles
« Reply #133 on: 30 Sep 2020, 08:48 pm »
Woo!

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Re: Caintuck Audio The Lii 15 Baffles
« Reply #134 on: 30 Sep 2020, 10:46 pm »
Newbiee,
This is a project I made for this Eminence woofer:
Bass Reflex Slanted golden ratio 1 woofer only,
so you wont need braces, it may be slightly above average volume recommended, if possible use only 1 duct.
W 50cm
D 30cm top
D 50cm bot
H 80cm
Vol 160L

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Re: Caintuck Audio The Lii 15 Baffles
« Reply #135 on: 1 Oct 2020, 03:29 pm »
Here is a photo of my setup. Triode Labs SET 2A3 amp with a whooping 3.5watt drives them perfectly!

UPDATE: DELIVERED!
I will absolutely be sharing my setup once everything is dialed in and placed neatly. Now I just have to convince myself not to walk out of work right now and go hook them up.  :?
« Last Edit: 1 Oct 2020, 06:51 pm by Budget_Mike »

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Re: Caintuck Audio The Lii 15 Baffles
« Reply #136 on: 1 Oct 2020, 03:30 pm »
Thank you fullrange. By the way, Lii's new 18 inch driver appeared.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001403012788.html

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Re: Caintuck Audio The Lii 15 Baffles
« Reply #137 on: 1 Oct 2020, 03:33 pm »
Thank you fullrange. By the way, Lii's new 18 inch driver appeared.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001403012788.html

but but but...... I just got the 15's  :o

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Re: Caintuck Audio The Lii 15 Baffles
« Reply #138 on: 1 Oct 2020, 03:43 pm »
Too ambitious for full range. It makes me wonder what an 18-inch driver would be like in mid sound.

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Re: Caintuck Audio The Lii 15 Baffles
« Reply #139 on: 1 Oct 2020, 03:59 pm »
Those drivers aren’t even up on their website yet. Bleeding edge catch there!