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Ive heard some Hifiman models and they sounded decent, but I'm still a little leery of them. They have a reputation for wobbly quality control and they change out models so much, I don't know if they'd still have parts and service available well up the road, the way, say, Sennheiser does (until just a few years ago, you could still get parts for the 414, a model that was introduced in the late Sixties). Heard the Sundara was replacement for 560.
Seems your prob is they arent made in usa, buy an Audeze at double price.
You get what you pay for.'Not Made in America' isn't my problem. There are many quality audio items manufactured 'not in America', my Shure SE535's being just one of many. Neither are my Beyer Amirons. It seems like you took these comments personally. Not meant that way. These complaints are all over head-fi etc.
HifiMan market policy is clearly the opposite of Sennheiser, which phones stay stagnat for a long time and the user does not benefit from technological developments.
There's a review with measurements on rtings.com - https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/hifiman/sundaraAlso here: https://diyaudioheaven.wordpress.com/headphones/measurements/hifiman/sundara/
I find that assertion totally mystifying. For the first time in years, there is no Senneheiser product here but I still respect the brand. If Sennheiser products were backward technologically (as you seem to be suggesting), the market would reject them. I am not aware of any credible evidence of this happening.Another way to look at it is that when a product is designed right to begin with, it doesn't have to be re-designed every year or so, especially if those 'advances' are to correct design flaws.
Iam not as complacent, how the HD600/650 yet sells is beyond of me, evidently they are obsolete the HD600 was released in 1997, 21 years is too long for not improve that 30mm driver, they are slow.The market did not even notice the HifiMan failures the factory is that it voluntarily corrected the products in 6 months, in 21 years they did not correct the 600 serie small soundstage problem, so they were not made right since the start.
It would seem then that your issue is with the market, not the manufacture. Why would a company pull an item that continues to sell well simply because they thought it was getting old? While we can afford to be idealistic and always want the most for the least amount of money, companies that remove well accepted items from the market are making poor decisions. Interestingly, the HD600 continues to be well accepted on the basis of performance by purchasers...yet your position is that they should either change it or remove it from the market.Hibuck...
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