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pabiz

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« on: 10 Jan 2005, 10:22 am »
hello to everyone
I seen in old post that cat5 interconnects it is the best choice for anyone,I try it between my GK1 and Aksa and between CD and Gk1 but I don't like it it seem very lack of bass and flat I prefer much my old VdH d102 Hybrid.I think there is a mistake in the lenght of the cable or in the number of core.

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« Reply #1 on: 10 Jan 2005, 11:36 am »
Hmmm........... :lol:

I'll stay outta this one!! :mrgreen:

Comments, guys??   :o

Cheers,

Hugh

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« Reply #2 on: 10 Jan 2005, 03:01 pm »
Hi Folks:
    I'll comment on this one.
    For those that want superior interconnect cables at reasonable cost,
make your own, as follows:
    Mogami Neglex 4 conductor, shielded mic cable, in various colors, for
$.63  per ft.  RCA phono plugs from Milestek, (part #10-21050) at $2.08
each. Connect as follows:
http://www.wmeckle.com/WIRE.JPG
    If you'd like to see these interconnects used in a complex home theater
system, check:
http://www.wmeckle.com/System/RearView.htm
    Buying even mid-cost interconnects for this system would have been
prohibitive.

SamL

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« Reply #3 on: 10 Jan 2005, 11:38 pm »
Quote from: pabiz
hello to everyone
I seen in old post that cat5 interconnects it is the best choice for anyone,I try it between my GK1 and Aksa and between CD and Gk1 but I don't like it it seem very lack of bass and flat I prefer much my old VdH d102 Hybrid.I think there is a mistake in the lenght of the cable or in the number of core.


YMMV is alway true. To my ear I find them excellent value for money. No problem with bass but again I have not tried a lot of wire.
BTW are you using teflon insulated cat5? How long is your IC and how do you braid them?

Edit: One thing I found out is electricity don't like corners. Braid the wire too tight is not a good thing.

Sam

pabiz

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« Reply #4 on: 11 Jan 2005, 11:21 am »
I use a single twisted pair of cat5 length 0.5 meter.

Felipe

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« Reply #5 on: 11 Jan 2005, 11:23 am »
Another recipe for interconnects  - John Risch recipe : Belden 89259/89248 + shileding + good rca's.
This is a very good combination. more details in

http://www.geocities.com/jonrisch/i1.htm

For Cat5 IC, i think ppl use it more in terms of inner wiring to connect modules to terminals inside an amplifier - not outside.

andyr

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« Reply #6 on: 11 Jan 2005, 11:31 am »
Quote from: pabiz
hello to everyone
I seen in old post that cat5 interconnects it is the best choice for anyone,I try it between my GK1 and Aksa and between CD and Gk1 but I don't like it it seem very lack of bass and flat I prefer much my old VdH d102 Hybrid.I think there is a mistake in the lenght of the cable or in the number of core.
Hi, pabiz,

Remember, Hugh recommends shielded ICs for an AKSA, which would be difficult to do if your ICs are made from braided Cat5.

However, if you want to use Cat5, you should be using teflon coated Cat5 (Belden 1585a), as Sam says.

I have some ICs made from VdH D102 but I am gradually replacing them for one simple reason ... the D102 cores are stranded wire and I prefer to use solid-core.  I use 2 x solid-core, teflon-coated Cu wires wrapped in an opposing spiral around a 4mm teflon tube ... then this is covered with a cotton bootlace (for spacing) and on top goes the braided, tin-plate Cu shield (earthed at the source end only).

No problem with base as far as I can tell!!

BTW, Mal Fear used to be a fan of Cat5 ICs but he bought a 1000' roll of some magic silver-coated Cu wire from the US and now prefers ICs made with this.

Regards,

Andy

pabiz

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« Reply #7 on: 11 Jan 2005, 01:17 pm »
Thank you Andyr,I have VdH D102 since 2001 and I like it .It is a good compromise price/performance but recently I substitute my old cd player Rotel 965 bx (musical player but not detailed) with CEC 3300,very good player,neutral detailed no listen fatigue.After this substitution the only little problem,is the mid bass,it seems a little dry,so I would like to try a cable with Cu solid core OFC,instead of the VdH multistrand.
I think to try with the cat 5 as the internal wiring but I have read very good reviews about the eichmann express,does anyone try this cables?

SamL

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« Reply #8 on: 16 Jan 2005, 10:08 pm »
Just build myself a silver IC using 4 x 26ga thin Teflon insulated solid core silver. The braid method is the same the Cat5 and I am using  the same cheap $12 RCA connector. Had a listen and the immediate differences is the high and mid. The silver have more detail with better definition, specially in vocal, cymbal sound more realistic too. The treble can be bright depends on recording and will not suit metal dome tweeter. Bass stays the same but I do find the mid bass a bit better define. The different is not that big comparing to the Cat5 but enough for my wife to notice the change. The silver IC is a stayer for now.  
BTW, all listening is done on casual listening session. To me anything that need "intense" listening to tell the different is not worth having.

Have fun,
Sam

Malcolm Fear

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« Reply #9 on: 17 Jan 2005, 07:39 am »
I was a great fan of teflon coated solid core CAT 5. Four strands for interconnects, 8 strands for spreaker cables. They sounded best with Eichmanns.
I met Scott Faller in St Louis. He gave me some interesting multistrand silver coated copper, with a silver coated shield. Both layers of insulation are a teflon fused layer
Scott has a review of theses cables in Enjoy The Music, about half way down the page.

http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/viewpoint/1104/joeaudiophile3.htm

I made up 2, 3 and 4 strand cables. One end is terminated in Eichmanns, the other end is directly wired to a DACT input selector switch. Most of us prefer 2 strand, one prefers 3 strand (one signal, two returns).
It sounds better than the CAT 5.
I have since rewired the GK-1 and AKSA 55 with this stuff. I use two strands of it for my speaker leads.
I get a big improvement in getting rid of connectors and sockets. My speaker leads are directly soldered to the spaeker lugs. The other end is directly soldered to the AKSA power board.

I ignore the shield. Leave it there, but don't use it.

MarinRider

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« Reply #10 on: 20 Jan 2005, 11:28 am »
Much as it galls me to have commercial products in my homemade (except CDP) system, Linn Black IC sounds better than anything I have ever made - and I've made a lot!