JBL LSR305 MKII's are out!

Doublej · « **on:** 20 Jan 2018, 02:28 pm »

Dang! I just bought a pair over the holidays.

https://www.amazon.com/JBL-2-Way-Powered-Studio-Monitor/dp/B077N2GQXC/

maty · « **Reply #1 on:** 20 Jan 2018, 02:53 pm »

http://www.jblpro.com/www/products/recording-broadcast/3-series-mkii/305p-mkii

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SIGNAL TO NOISE RATIO 75dBA (A-Weighted), 70dBr (unweighted), relative to 2.83VRMS output

srb · « **Reply #2 on:** 20 Jan 2018, 02:54 pm »

Quote from: maty on 20 Jan 2018, 02:53 pm

macrojack · « **Reply #3 on:** 20 Jan 2018, 02:57 pm »

I don't see any indication of this being a per pair price. At $149 each it seems high. Haven't I seen these same speakers on here for $200/pr.?

maty · « **Reply #4 on:** 20 Jan 2018, 03:21 pm »

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SYSTEM DISTORTION CRITERIA <10% THD at maximum output with full compressor / limiter engagement

ELECTRICAL DISTORTION CRITERIA 0.2% THD @ 1kHz / 2.83VRMS output; <1% THD @ 1kHz, full rated output

The problem is the same: cheap class D amp.

Doublej · « **Reply #5 on:** 20 Jan 2018, 05:07 pm »

Quote from: macrojack on 20 Jan 2018, 02:57 pm

I don't see any indication of this being a per pair price. At $149 each it seems high. Haven't I seen these same speakers on here for $200/pr.?

A new pair of Version 1's is ready available for $200 or less delivered in the US.

maty - what's your recommendation for $200/pair?

maty · « **Reply #6 on:** 20 Jan 2018, 06:27 pm »

* Passive: KEF Q100 is the best option if you like all type of music, very well interpreted and recorded.

* Active and < $200

To modern music, maybe the JBL 305 and others. But only to modern music, so badly recorded. And with a high volume so that the SNR is better. TV and movies too.

All type of music, very well interpreted and recorded -> Focal Alpha 50 but $250 x2.

Doublej · « **Reply #7 on:** 20 Jan 2018, 06:34 pm »

Quote from: maty on 20 Jan 2018, 06:27 pm

* Passive: KEF Q100 is the best option if you like all type of music, very well interpreted and recorded.

* Active and < $200

To modern music, maybe the JBL 305 and others. But only to modern music, so badly recorded. And with a high volume so that the SNR is better. TV and movies too.

All type of music, very well interpreted and recorded -> Focal Alpha 50 but $250 x2.

Where can I find KEF Q100 for $200/pair?

maty · « **Reply #8 on:** 20 Jan 2018, 06:53 pm »

KEF Q100 for $300

http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=150792.0

Now: Price:$229.00+ Free shipping with Amazon Prime

[Customer reviews] https://www.amazon.com/KEF-Q100-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers-Black/product-reviews/B0047K3X1M/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_viewopt_srt?ie=UTF8&amp%3BreviewerType=all_reviews&amp%3BsortBy=recent&amp%3BpageNumber=1&sortBy=recent&pageNumber=1

fredgarvin · « **Reply #9 on:** 20 Jan 2018, 08:06 pm »

Massdrop has the jbl lsr30x for $179 a pr right now. free shipping

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-jbl-lsr30x-powered-speakers

brj · « **Reply #10 on:** 20 Jan 2018, 09:11 pm »

Note that they added a new speaker as well - a 6.0" or 6.5" woofer based (depending on what website you visit) LSR306 in between the 305 and 308. Interesting...

JLM · « **Reply #11 on:** 21 Jan 2018, 11:54 am »

Quote from: maty on 20 Jan 2018, 03:21 pm

The problem is the same: cheap class D amp.

Yes, they are inexpensive (original or MkII's). I've heard the originals a few times including a week at home and never heard amp based distortion from them, neither have any reviewers I've found. Note that professional gear is typically rated very conservatively compared to home audio equipment. The 305's more than hold their own against similarly priced passive speakers that have very fundamental limitations and obviously are the better value. Do you buy based on specifications or what you hear?

I'd expect the MkII's to be marginally better for a slightly higher price. If you 'need" to be the kid on the block with the latest and greatest, the MkII's are for you.

If you want an ultimate active speaker solution that sports good amps look at Bryston (at 40 times the price

and lots more cable).

maty · « **Reply #12 on:** 21 Jan 2018, 12:24 pm »

In the old JBL you can hear hiss when they work in nearfield. You know, cheap class D amplifier.

JLM · « **Reply #13 on:** 21 Jan 2018, 01:30 pm »

Quote from: maty on 21 Jan 2018, 12:24 pm

In the old JBL you can hear hiss when they work in nearfield. You know, cheap class D amplifier.

Maybe you had a bad pair or have electrical issues there because I've not heard that anywhere I've listened to them and don't recall any one else having such impressions.

maty · « **Reply #14 on:** 21 Jan 2018, 01:53 pm »

https://www.google.com/search?q=jbl+305+308+hiss

maty · « **Reply #15 on:** 21 Jan 2018, 02:49 pm »

I just happened to read it:

Bargain DAC Suggestions?

https://audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/bargain-dac-suggestions.1381/page-16#post-61658

by Sylafari Jan 20, 2018

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After I bought the Schiit Bifrost Multibit to replace my old Yulong DA8 and trying to listen to the advantage of this "multibit" DAC, I started to feel like the "multibit" is more marketing maybe, that and measurements of the cheaper Schiit DACs are making me wonder about things.

As for why I chose RME it is a bit of a long story; a few months ago I bought the Massdrop JBL LSR-30X, and I can honestly say the sound quality for just $280 (even lower now) was just mind blowing to me. I usually listen to my HD 800, and I was expecting the JBL LSR-30X to sound vastly inferior and honestly I did not feel like the 30X sounded vastly inferior at all. I mean sure the HD 800 digs deeper and has more detail but the JBLs sound so good to me. In terms of enjoyment level the JBL is arguably even better possibly (HD800, I am slowly finding sounds a bit too bright for me?), my only gripes with the JBL is that the hiss at idle is very annoying cause I use them in nearfield and the connection options are all pro connection options and not really suitable to what I am using (Had to buy a few extra rca to xlr cables to get the thing to even work)...

JDUBS · « **Reply #16 on:** 21 Jan 2018, 04:48 pm »

Yep, there's definitely a hiss coming out of the tweeter w/ no material being put through them. I wish you could grab the signal from the DSP and route it to your own amps.

-Jim

Doublej · « **Reply #17 on:** 21 Jan 2018, 05:49 pm »

Is there hiss without anything connected to the input?

maplegrovemusic · « **Reply #18 on:** 21 Jan 2018, 06:57 pm »

I have owned the 305 and 308 . Never experienced a hiss. I have never read a review with I hiss being described . This is not the norm by a long shot .

restrav · « **Reply #19 on:** 21 Jan 2018, 07:02 pm »

I bought the 305 and listened to them for a month as well. no hiss at all. completely silent.