any hope for us...

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any hope for us...
« on: 9 Aug 2017, 01:36 pm »
...that have BCD1s. Are there any replacement drives for the BCD1 that can be mated to the player.....? thanks. :?

Phil A

Re: any hope for us...
« Reply #1 on: 9 Aug 2017, 01:49 pm »
I think that has been addressed in multiple threads - e.g.  http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=150650.0

rob80b

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« Reply #2 on: 9 Aug 2017, 04:07 pm »
I guess the real "wishful thinking" question is...in case of a problem how does one retrofit the the BCD-3s drive to fit in the BCD-1.... :scratch:

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« Reply #3 on: 9 Aug 2017, 04:09 pm »
I guess the real "wishful thinking" question is...in case of a problem how does one retrofit the the BCD-3s drive to fit in the BCD-1.... :scratch:

Hi

That can not be done.

The only avenue is if the drive can not be fixed we can work out something on a trade towards a BCD-3.

james

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« Reply #4 on: 9 Aug 2017, 04:13 pm »
Hi

That can not be done.

The only avenue is if the drive can not be fixed we can work out something on a trade towards a BCD-3.

james
Ok James, thanks for the definite answer... :thumb:

rob80b

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« Reply #5 on: 9 Aug 2017, 05:27 pm »
Hi

That can not be done.

.......
james

As I said " wishful thinking" (dreaming)... but knock on wood my BCD-1 has not acted up since I had Mike on the phone :scratch:....but good to know that a trade up may be possible if all else fails. 

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« Reply #6 on: 9 Aug 2017, 06:11 pm »
There aren't too many companies around today that would even consider offering a trade-up program for their older equipment. Not to mention the ability to upgrade some of their older gear to the latest and greatest! Kudos to Bryston for once again proving it is a customer-oriented company. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:⭐️⭐️⭐️

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« Reply #7 on: 9 Aug 2017, 06:33 pm »
I guess the real "wishful thinking" question is...in case of a problem how does one retrofit the the BCD-3s drive to fit in the BCD-1.... :scratch:

One way to rebuild a BCD-1 is to look at the drive inside and find a CD player that uses that exact same drive and buy it for parts. I don't remember the exact designation but I do remember some German-made Technics players used it. Your best bet is to find out which drive was used by Bryston and find a service manual for the appropriate Technics model.

Cheaper drives like these usually include digital servo controllers on-board and are connected to the main board via ribbon cable so this should be a relatively simple task for someone into who's into electronics.

If MiniDisc recorders can be restored this way, CD players can be too since they're far less complicated.

Unless of course, Bryston did something to that drive to make it perform differently to suit their needs. That's a question for the designer.

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« Reply #8 on: 9 Aug 2017, 07:00 pm »


Unless of course, Bryston did something to that drive to make it perform differently to suit their needs. That's a question for the designer.

Hi

Yes we removed the clocks on the controller board and replaced them with much more accurate versions.

james

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« Reply #9 on: 9 Aug 2017, 07:00 pm »
One way to rebuild a BCD-1 is to look at the drive inside and find a CD player that uses that exact same drive ..........
Might be the only way....
I posted this elsewhere... as I noted earlier the 3 is a "whole" new unit built from the ground up and a nice one at that with no real resemblance to the BCD-1.

Lol ...I've been out of the loop...what happened to BCD-2?
Quite the make over.


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« Reply #10 on: 9 Aug 2017, 07:18 pm »
Hi

Yes we removed the clocks on the controller board and replaced them with much more accurate versions.

james

Hi James!

Perhaps the circuit board containing the control chips on the original drive could be dettached from the drive and installed on a different drive. Correct if I'm wrong but Bryston did a modification to the original drive by replacing components on the drive's control circuit board, right?

A disc drive is a mechanism and this is what "presumably" has a service life. The control circuit board should remain operational and thus could be reattached to a different drive that's otherwise (mechanically) identical to the drive Bryston used.

It could work and I'd even consider calling it what an architect would no doubt call "an elegant solution to the problem".

Cheers!
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« Reply #11 on: 9 Aug 2017, 10:55 pm »
@rob80: It took several yrs between BCD-1 and -3, so I am very confident Bryston re-designed the whole innards. Not the type of company to re-hash/make very minor changes when putting out a new player (or amp). That's for other outfits to do.  Haven't heard the -3, but from what I've read from real users it's pretty good!  :thumb: