Immersive Audio Is Just Better!

witchdoctor · « **Reply #300 on:** 26 Mar 2019, 04:23 pm »

Immersive Audio from a soundbar? That's the claim from Sennheiser. I hope it works, I would LOVE to have a one and done solution for immersive audio:

https://www.soundguys.com/sennheiser-ambeo-3d-soundbar-21450/

WC · « **Reply #301 on:** 26 Mar 2019, 08:35 pm »

Fairly pricey, but if it works well it could replace a AVR and surround system. My guess is that it will work for some people in some rooms, but it will not replace systems with multiple good subwoofers. It is not big enough to pressurize most rooms.

https://en-us.sennheiser.com/ambeo-soundbar

OzarkTom · « **Reply #302 on:** 26 Mar 2019, 09:49 pm »

The soundbar could probably be a do-able in my situation. Now to get rid of all my two channel speakers.

OzarkTom · « **Reply #303 on:** 26 Mar 2019, 10:11 pm »

Vizio has a soundbar plus two speakers and a sub for $999. WD may have already reported this.

https://www.soundandvision.com/content/vizio-514-atmos-soundbar-review

$699 on this page.

https://slickdeals.net/f/12338710-vizio-46-5-1-4-home-theater-sound-system-with-dolby-atmos-sb46514-f6-699-99

witchdoctor · « **Reply #304 on:** 27 Mar 2019, 03:05 pm »

I have 15 speakers in my media room, the idea of being able to replace them with a soundbar is at first thought "impossible". But if you could get 80% of the SQ it would be fantastic for a LOT of reasons.

Sennheiser/Ambeo technology is what was used to mix immersive audio at Abbey Road studios for Pink Floyd (in a traditional speaker setup). The fact that this is a commercial application has me curious. I guess the space is too crowded for another "format" so Sennheiser came up with a solution that solves the WAF problem in a one bar solution (not even a sub is needed). $2500 is a lot for a soundbar but if it delivers even 50% of the SQ of my current man cave rig it would be a bargain.

OzarkTom · « **Reply #305 on:** 31 Mar 2019, 05:58 pm »

It looks like High End Audio Meridian has also joined the Immersive revolution.

https://www.cepro.com/article/meridian_partnerships_aid_all_new_immersive_audio_solution

For auto.

https://www.meridian-audio.com/in-car-audio/

OzarkTom · « **Reply #306 on:** 31 Mar 2019, 06:02 pm »

JBL also.

http://www.jblpro.com/www/products/cinema-market/immersive-rooms#.XKEAS_EwjIU

witchdoctor · « **Reply #307 on:** 1 Apr 2019, 03:00 pm »

Quote from: OzarkTom on 31 Mar 2019, 06:02 pm

JBL also.

http://www.jblpro.com/www/products/cinema-market/immersive-rooms#.XKEAS_EwjIU

Now that Harman acquired Arcam Lexicon also just came out with a new immersive receiver based on an Arcam product. It lacks Auro 3D though:

https://lexicon.com/productdetail/~/product/rv-6.html

witchdoctor · « **Reply #308 on:** 3 Apr 2019, 10:15 pm »

Here at AC I see Bryston going immersive with the SP4 and now Digital Amplifier Company is going to blow out Axpona with over 25,000 watts of sheer immersive goodness. Bryston nailed top honors at the Bristol show and my money is on the 5 Channel Cherries to do the same at Axpona.
Immersive audio is just...better.

timind · « **Reply #309 on:** 3 Apr 2019, 10:48 pm »

witchdoctor · « **Reply #310 on:** 4 Apr 2019, 09:44 pm »

As I go through the threads here and the systems pages (all very nice) my head explodes by the HUUUUGENESS of 2 channel. Monster amps and gigantic speakers. It is at once a tribute to the two channel fans here and also a reminder of how expensive it is to reproduce music with a limiting factor of only two speakers. These systems sound magnificent, I'm sure, but talk about WAF, good luck.

Immersive audio is just better. 10 smaller speakers can be installed discretely that engulfs you in the music in a way that is impossible for stereo.
Witchdoctor studios is modeled on the setup at Abbey Road, not very practical for most people but why not something elegant like 10 of these:

https://hometheaterreview.com/svs-prime-elevation-satellite-speaker-reviewed/

or these:

http://jtrspeakers.com/slanted-8ht-lp.html

or these:

https://www.orbaudio.com/collections/individual-speakers-subwoofers

AmpDesigner333 · « **Reply #311 on:** 5 Apr 2019, 05:32 am »

Quote from: witchdoctor on 4 Apr 2019, 09:44 pm

As I go through the threads here and the systems pages (all very nice) my head explodes by the HUUUUGENESS of 2 channel. Monster amps and gigantic speakers. It is at once a tribute to the two channel fans here and also a reminder of how expensive it is to reproduce music with a limiting factor of only two speakers. These systems sound magnificent, I'm sure, but talk about WAF, good luck.

Immersive audio is just better. 10 smaller speakers can be installed discretely that engulfs you in the music in a way that is impossible for stereo.
Witchdoctor studios is modeled on the setup at Abbey Road, not very practical for most people but why not something elegant like 10 of these:

https://hometheaterreview.com/svs-prime-elevation-satellite-speaker-reviewed/

or these:

http://jtrspeakers.com/slanted-8ht-lp.html

or these:

https://www.orbaudio.com/collections/individual-speakers-subwoofers

The JTRs are awesome for HT as well as 2-ch !! I have a pair of 210RTs, and will be upgrading to 212RTs someday soon. Check them out:
http://www.jtrspeakers.com/noesis-212rt.html

Massive SPL and the lowest distortion I've measured with REW to date. Worth a look if you want serious performance, incredible bass (no sub needed), and astounding clarity top-to-bottom.

- Tommy O (the Cherry Amp guy)

witchdoctor · « **Reply #312 on:** 5 Apr 2019, 02:31 pm »

Thanks Tommy O, your joint demo at Axpona is going to blow the doors off. I hope you can live stream or post a video.

AmpDesigner333 · « **Reply #313 on:** 11 Apr 2019, 02:12 am »

Here’s a thread about the 9.8.6 system we will be demoing at AXPONA this weekend:
https://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=163293.0

More than 25,000 watts behind this, and more than 1700 square feet!

witchdoctor · « **Reply #314 on:** 11 Apr 2019, 01:48 pm »

Quote from: AmpDesigner333 on 11 Apr 2019, 02:12 am

Here’s a thread about the 9.8.6 system we will be demoing at AXPONA this weekend:
https://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=163293.0

More than 25,000 watts behind this, and more than 1700 square feet!

Fantastic! Please post some pics and maybe a video clip after the show, wish I was there.

witchdoctor · « **Reply #315 on:** 23 May 2019, 07:33 pm »

Universal Music agrees with the witchdoctor (of course) and atmos music mixes are on the way:

“Instead of mixing and producing music to speakers, we are doing it to [physical] space,” said Michael Frey, UMG’s president of operations, global studios and technologies. “And then if we want, we can actually move it around through space. The heart of what we're trying to bring to life is a much bigger palette.”

https://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/record-labels/8512860/universal-music-group-looks-to-the-future-of-sound-mixing

AmpDesigner333 · « **Reply #316 on:** 23 May 2019, 07:52 pm »

Quote from: witchdoctor on 11 Apr 2019, 01:48 pm

Fantastic! Please post some pics and maybe a video clip after the show, wish I was there.

Details and pics are on the thread:
https://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=163293.0

witchdoctor · « **Reply #317 on:** 23 May 2019, 07:54 pm »

Unlike traditional stereo mixes, Atmos Music provides a "you-are-there" quality, with tracks mixed so that each song is experienced differently depending on where you are in the room.

In other words, its just better

witchdoctor · « **Reply #318 on:** 27 Sep 2019, 08:32 pm »

Amazon is now streaming music encoded in Dolby Atmos though its Amazon Music HD service. Say what? I have been saying that immersive is "just better" but I'm only a witchdoctor. Now it seems Dolby, Amazon, and quite a few artists feel the same way! Amazon is pitching a $200 Atmos smart speaker to get Atmos into the hands of the masses. For those of you lacking an "immersive" system don't bother with that speaker but the price of 9 channels receivers has come way down. My 9 channels Onkyo RZ630 was less than $400! Check this out:

https://www.soundandvision.com/content/amazon-music-hd-new-echo-studio-smart-speaker-support-dolby-atmos-encoded-music

Video of user experience on IMMERSIVE music:

https://youtu.be/tIaEj_VCPPo

witchdoctor · « **Reply #319 on:** 26 Oct 2019, 03:20 pm »

The 147th AES show was focused on IMMERSIVE audio just concluded October 19th 2019 and the MAIN theme was immersive audio is ALL that was going on. Right now Dolby Atmos and Sony's new 360D and the feeling at the show was that stereo is DEAD and everything is being remixed and the studios are focusing on IMMERSIVE audio. This is not surround if you are confused. Immersive audio can be experienced in your room with a traditional 5.1 surround setup and then adding additional height channels high on the wall or in the ceiling.

Check out this CEDIA podcast:

https://www.cedia.net/insights/cedia-blog-detail/blog/2019/10/25/the-cedia-podcast-episode-147-the-latest-in-audio-engineering