[Krutsch]

Hi Krutsch,

Since MM mobile still forces us to scroll continuously and heavily (the control buttons are almost a full screen away from the file list, the focus of the screen keeps taking the file list out of view, to be honest it made me give up on MM on mobile for now) I'll certainly will try Soundirok. Which option did you use for the album/cover art : http://www.kvibes.de/en/soundirok/display-cover-art/. ?

MM should be able to ditch the covert completely on mobile, while in file-view, and maybe have it displayed as watermark in play-mode, like Mpod handles that beautifully.
Because of this, i'm afraid a universal web interface like MM will never be as optimal as Bryston hopes is is, compared to a dedicated App.
 
Thanks
Marius

In my collection, I have a Folder.jpg in every album folder and in each parent artist folder (well, I am still working on the artists collection).

In the Soundirok app, I simply specified Folder.jpg for each of the album and artist thumbnail in the settings for the device. Then, refresh the local cache by tapping on the device in the top header, the gear icon and tap "Clear local image cache". That will force a re-download of the MPD database, as well as as pre-fetching all of the artwork. Just works. I have album art for everything and browsing is very responsive.

I tried uploading their "covert.php" to my BDP-1 and configuring that in the app, but I couldn't get that to work.

Take some time and play around with the "Intelligent Sets" feature. What I really like about that feature is you can define smart playlists that work across multiple MPD players, as long as they share a common library (i.e. same NAS shares or copies of the same library on attached devices).

The app still needs some work - it would be nice to browse by genre w/o creating a playlist - but I suspect the developer has more to come in future releases.

[Marius]

seems pretty forward, thanks. I work with cover.jpg and various others, which Chris upon request made available in MM. Hope Soundirok can handle these too.


No browsing by folder, genre or album title - only by Artist yet? That should be fixed indeed. Have you managed to creat a intelligent set of the playlists?
Cheers, and happy experimenting,

Marius

In my collection, I have a Folder.jpg in every album folder and in each parent artist folder (well, I am still working on the artists collection).

In the Soundirok app, I simply specified Folder.jpg for each of the album and artist thumbnail in the settings for the device. Then, refresh the local cache by tapping on the device in the top header, the gear icon and tap "Clear local image cache". That will force a re-download of the MPD database, as well as as pre-fetching all of the artwork. Just works. I have album art for everything and browsing is very responsive.

I tried uploading their "covert.php" to my BDP-1 and configuring that in the app, but I couldn't get that to work.

Take some time and play around with the "Intelligent Sets" feature. What I really like about that feature is you can define smart playlists that work across multiple MPD players, as long as they share a common library (i.e. same NAS shares or copies of the same library on attached devices).

The app still needs some work - it would be nice to browse by genre w/o creating a playlist - but I suspect the developer has more to come in future releases.

[docder]

I tried this and it didn't work on my BDP-1. I selected the Shairplay box as ON under Services. When I tried to use Spotify on my iPhone 6+, I could not find the BDP-1 anywhere as a device. I could find my iMac and Apple TV on the iPhone 6+.

Do you have one of those dual band routers thats puts out two wifi networks?  Mine does here, and my Macbook Pro will only see my BDP-1 when both are connected to the same band, 2.4 or 5 GHz.  I usually try to have files play via Airplay out of Audirvana into BDP-1 but it does not work now. It did do once or twice but then stopped. Everything loads ok in Audirvana but the file just will not run. I installed Airfoil and now Audirvana files play into BDP-1.  Streaming from Audirvana sound very good at 16/44.1 and is great for discovering new music. Hires files struggle though, often cutting out, and are best played from locally attached HDs.

[OgOgilby]

Soundirok released a new version of their MPD app today for iPad .Holy Buckets, what a leap forward from the last version!

Support for MPD playlists, "Collections" and "Intelligent Sets" which are basically playlists and Smart Playlists, but can be used across multiple devices that are sharing the same library collection.

And, the author fixed the MPD library and album art caching issues. Elegant looking and responsive. Take a few minutes to learn the app and you will never go back to MPaD ... or other apps, from what I've experienced.

Purchased Soundirok tonight. At first glance Soundirok has a lot of potential, but for me it isn't an MPad replacement yet. While I like the Soundirok interface, I really miss having an album view option (maybe I missed it). The real problem for me is a lot of albums that have no issues in MPad either don't appear under the artist, or show up incorrectly. I use a mix of WAV and FLAC files and I wonder if Soundirok has issues with WAV files.

That said, I really hope the Soundirok developers fix the bugs since the interface is very clean, seems fast,  and has some very nice features.

-Greg

[James Tanner]

Hi Folks

If you have a chance have another look at the Manic Moose software. Especially the latest April 2016 beta. Chris has done a great job of improving the interface and is continuing to improve it as we get feedback. 

James

[Krutsch]

Purchased Soundirok tonight. At first glance Soundirok has a lot of potential, but for me it isn't an MPad replacement yet. While I like the Soundirok interface, I really miss having an album view option (maybe I missed it). The real problem for me is a lot of albums that have no issues in MPad either don't appear under the artist, or show up incorrectly. I use a mix of WAV and FLAC files and I wonder if Soundirok has issues with WAV files.

That said, I really hope the Soundirok developers fix the bugs since the interface is very clean, seems fast,  and has some very nice features.

-Greg

I am optimistic that this app will improve, fast. I had some questions about setting up his style of playlists and the developer was very responsive.

As for albums not showing up, this is odd - like MPaD, Soundirok gets its information from MPD, so if it appears in MPaD it should appear in any MPD app.

Send Daniel an e-mail and let him know what issues you are having and he will respond. mailto:info@kvibes.de

He mentioned in one of his replies that someone with a BDP-2 was having some challenges with configuring the MPD settings for art work; he asked me for my settings. Here they are, for anyone else's reference:

Name: Bryston BDP-1
IP Address: bryston-bdp-1.local
Port: 6600
Password: <empty>

Cover Script URL: <empty>

*Note: I downloaded (his) script into the www folder on the BDP-1, but I can’t seem to make this work, so I went with the settings that follow (which work really well - I have 100% coverage in album art).

Collection URL: http://bryston-bdp-1.local/music/
Cover Filename: Folder.jpg
Artist Thumb Filename: Folder.jpg

EDIT: while I was posting that e-mail, I received an e-mail from the developer, responding to a question I had about upcoming features:

"I’ve already added the filetype, sample rate and bit-depth on the playback screen and browsing/grouping by genres and just albums. I’ll test this some days and then I will upload the new version to the app store.

Displaying PDFs inside an app is not quite easy (you need a rendering engine for pdfs or you need to embed a web view what’s not really nice). But I’ll see if there is an option to integrate PDFs nicely into Soundirok."

[Soundirok]

Hi, I'm the developer of Soundirok. I don't want to hijack this thread so just a short note: If you're having problems or feature wishes just drop me a line: soundirok@kvibes.de I can't fix bugs I'm not aware of

Daniel

[Krutsch]

Hi Folks

If you have a chance have another look at the Manic Moose software. Especially the latest April 2016 beta. Chris has done a great job of improving the interface and is continuing to improve it as we get feedback. 

James

Agreed. Chris has a done a nice job improving the interface, from where it started when I purchased my BDP.

I updated my machine this morning with the new BETA, rebuilt the internal DB and I am not seeing anything new with respect to various issues I've reported in the Manic Moose feedback thread. I feel like I am doing my part to help in reporting what I observe, and will continue to update as new releases occur.

[James Tanner]

Hi, I'm the developer of Soundirok. I don't want to hijack this thread so just a short note: If you're having problems or feature wishes just drop me a line: soundirok@kvibes.de I can't fix bugs I'm not aware of

Daniel

Thanks Daniel

If you do updates how do I add them to my current Soundirok App?

James

[James Tanner]

Hi Krutsch

I downloaded the App but it seems to take forever to load my library?  Also no album covers?  Have set it up like you showed above but BDP-2 instead of BDP-1.

Obviously I am doing something wrong!

james

[Krutsch]

Hi Krutsch

I downloaded the App but it seems to take forever to load my library?  Also no album covers?  Have set it up like you showed above but BDP-2 instead of BDP-1.

Obviously I am doing something wrong!

james

The key section is this:

Collection URL: http://bryston-bdp-1.local/music/
Cover Filename: Folder.jpg
Artist Thumb Filename: Folder.jpg

...and make sure your cover filenames match what you enter into the Soundirok settings. If you have used MPaD, this is exactly the same setting for local cover art download. Unlike MPaD, which will attempt to resolve missing artwork with versions from the Internet, Soundirok only uses local images from your library.

If you don't have cover art images in the album folders, you can try using the CoverArt.php script to extract them from your songs.

See: http://www.kvibes.de/en/soundirok/ and scroll to the bottom for more information.

The cover art configuration setup is a little confusing, to be sure, as it is on all of the MPD apps I've played around with.

[Krutsch]

Hi Krutsch

I downloaded the App but it seems to take forever to load my library?

...

As for the speed, I have about 16,500 tracks and it takes about a minute to update its local copy of the MPD database and another minute to pull down all of the album covers. If you have a 60,000 track library, it could take some time. It only seems to do this once, unless you go into the device menu at the top of the app and force a refresh by clearing the local image cache.

Post your findings if you get stuck and/or ask Daniel for help, as he offered above.

- Ken

[James Tanner]

Ok thanks - I have about 11,000 so will let it run for a bit.

james

[OgOgilby]

Hi, I'm the developer of Soundirok. I don't want to hijack this thread so just a short note: If you're having problems or feature wishes just drop me a line: soundirok@kvibes.de I can't fix bugs I'm not aware of

Daniel

Email sent 

-Greg

[docder]

Hi Folks

If you have a chance have another look at the Manic Moose software. Especially the latest April 2016 beta. Chris has done a great job of improving the interface and is continuing to improve it as we get feedback. 

James

Hi James,

I'm using MM software and happy with it. Could I ask, how does one get hold of the beta versions.


docder

[James Tanner]

Hi James,

I'm using MM software and happy with it. Could I ask, how does one get hold of the beta versions.


docder

Go to your browser and load MM. Then go to Update Firmware at the bottom of Dashboard and hit there.

The when the update software loads at the top of the browser add #beta to the end and hit enter.

This will load the beta version for you to try

James

[Krutsch]

Soundirok 1.6 is in the Apple app store. Boo-yah!

EDIT: and it seems to be very complete with this revision. I am all set.

[zoom25]

Just wanted to update for the sake of record keeping from last page, Shairplay worked perfectly and I can stream Spotify. It was being weird for a day and so have been using it fine for some time now.

Have said that, I much prefer using MPD to run music of my hard drive. The Shairplay is good for streaming audio only. There's a lag with the audio stream. So Casual YouTube is no go. Totally fine still since it's a audio player.

BTW I was thinking of giving Tidal another try through Manic Moose. I wanted to know how the audio for Tidal is coming and being processed. Is it being played real time, or through some sort of memory buffer. Also, is the audio going through MPD for the best sound quality?

[Yitshak]

Well I'm new to the the BDP's but in the last few days I tried
the MPD MPAD app and I don't like it after using JRiver for the last 2 years or so.

Surprisingly I very quickly learn to enjoy the MM Bryston APP and find
It quite simple and Genius for what I need (getting to my albums quick and playing my music ).

The album I played (so far ) after few seconds get the cover art ( I don't know from were lol ).
It's a kind of playlist base app that I found very easy in case of album load not in the
right order of songs that enable me to fix things on the fly or save as new playlist for use later on.
It's very easy to use and don't tax the free time I have for music learning IT stuff.

The above is in regard to the updated firmware:

S2.24 2016-02-08
Build: Manic Moose
MPD: 0.19.12
And Kernel ...something ....

From all reading done here setup went very easy for me.

Cheers

Itshak

[Yitshak]

Maybe I should add that since I understood
That the search on the MM can be made by folder tree
I took a time to arrange my tree ( not relying on the metadata only ).

I made pre folders of GENER SUB-GENERS of ARTISTS and BANDS or COMPOSERS
All as I want basically arrange the branches on the tree for all album as I wanted it to be.
So in this regard all fruits (albums) seat on the specific branch were I put it and not were
the computer/software would or may choose to organize it.
this way navigating by folder and reaching the album in the MM
become very easy and fast for me.

I'm no computer head just learn What will do the correct tricks for my needs,
it's working a charm on the MM


Cheers again

Itshak