[sleepkyng]

i've got somewhere's round 200 bucks

and i want to upgrade my phono preamp

i was thinking graham slee? where can i get one in the US?

any other reccomendations?

cheers!

[dogberry]

What's your setup now?

Why not add your system to the database?

[sleepkyng]

http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?action=systems;system=400

so any suggestions?

[Brad]

Everybody I found selling the Gram Slee wanted list price for it.

Still, supposed to be an excellent phono stage.

Jay at Audio Revelations (find on Audiogon) carries them.

[dogberry]

For your system I'd recommend the NAD PP-2.  You can get it for under $150 on the web.

My friend just got this for his low bedget analog system and it's pretty nice for the price!

[sleepkyng]

i was thinking about also the parasound zphono as it has gotten really great reviews and is only 120 new!

[Tonto Yoder]

Michael Fremer reviews BOTH the NAD and Parasound in the latest Stereophile--no clear winner, but seemed the Parasound was the better with MM, NAD with MC. His comments were surprisingly good given their low price. BTW, he gives the Parasound price as $150.

[duff138]

http://www.hagtech.com/index.html

Bugle assembled is $175


find a case for $25

=$200

heard it's a great phono amp.  worth checking out

[sleepkyng]

is my setup mc or mm? <-- dumb question but important

[Tonto Yoder]

is my setup mc or mm? <-- dumb question but important

Audio Technica mostly makes MM carts, the OC-9 being the only exception I know of (but there may be older models).
https://system.netsuite.com/core/media/media.nl?id=2738&c=ACCT106601&h=b49f502b7a85fb443eec&_xt=.pdf
Generally, cheap phono stages would only permit use of MM carts (which also tend to be cheaper/ less expensive): that's why inclusion of MC capabilities in the Parasound & NAD PP-2 are surprising at the price. The NAD PP-1, for instance, didn't have MC compatibility.

[doug s.]

i'd recommend the acurus p10 fono stage.  

http://www.klipsch.com/product/product.aspx?cid=307
http://www.klipsch.com/media/Products/P%2010%20phono%20pre%20om.pdf

while i never heard it, several folks said it was a lot nicer than the usual suspects like the phonomena, black cube, etc., a while back when i was in the market.  i ended up w/a much pricier unit, which i really like  - the pentagon ps-3.

doug s.

[viggen]

I was at Audio Revelations last weekend, and I wasn't aware that he carried GS.  GS is only MM though.  Less flexibility.

I did try out four of his phono pres, some Thor, two Trichords and a Dynavector plus this built in phono in a Rowland unit which is on a different system with a different table.

To my ears, the cheap Trichord, the Dino, sounded the best.  Compared to the Delphino, it's slightly smaller sounding but felt its more precise especially with brass.  My friend liked the Delphino better.  

Both were better than the Dynavector and Thor.  Jay thought there might have been a bad tube somewhere with the Thor.  The Dynavector wasn't bad either.

This was in a complete Thor system with Kharma speakers and Origin Live top of the line table.

BTW, Jay is excellent and highly recommend doing business with him.

[lcrim]

The Trichord Dino lists for $470 w/ standard power supply.  I agree that Jay is a nice guy but I doubt that he will discount that down to the $200 range.  @ $150  plus shipping the Hagermann Bugle, suggested earlier,
would also be my choice.  Since your cartridge has a listed output of 5.6mV, I would think that choosing a gain of 40dB on the Bugle would be about right.
The Bugle can be ordered as a kit but also can be bought prebuilt,  battery powered.   A separate AC power supply can only be found as a kit.
I think it was mentioned that there is a forum right on this board.

[doug s.]

acurus p10 yust up on a-gon:
http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?preaphon&1101657837


doug s.

[ABEX]

Checkout Gram Phono Amps which are small and lightweight which I like. Best of all they are inexpensive!

Good luck!