Devialet - no posts here?

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Devialet - no posts here?
« on: 26 Dec 2014, 09:09 am »
I did a search of this forum for solid state amps and was curious to find no Devialet posts.  Any reason? Or are sales so limited that there's very limited interest also?  The reviews seem incredible.

Thanks!
UL

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Re: Devialet - no posts here?
« Reply #1 on: 26 Dec 2014, 11:16 am »
Good question.  Probably too expensive, limited U.S. exposure, and not geeky enough for this crowd.

But their new speakers do have a thread on the enclosure circle.

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« Reply #2 on: 26 Dec 2014, 04:03 pm »
I just took delivery of a new 200 and with about 5 hours on it with a house full of people last night and more on the way today it will be some time before I have an informed opinion to make. I didn't even register it or check for updates on their site. Once all that is done and my speaker cables have to resettle in (had to reverse them to use my bananas on the amp end as the spades wouldn't fit), get a few more hours on the unit I will be happy to report back with an update. I will advise that if you want to use an aftermarket power cord it will have to have a termination at the amp end that isn't too large in diameter or you won't get the rear panel that covers all the connections to attach.

Seasons greetings to all.

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« Reply #3 on: 26 Dec 2014, 05:20 pm »
I just checked out their website.  I'd never heard of Devialet before a couple days ago when the Phantom speaker was mentioned on another Circle here.

Very beautiful components.  Very slick website.  Very very expensive for what they seem to be.  I'll be interested to find out more about them.

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Re: Devialet - no posts here?
« Reply #4 on: 26 Dec 2014, 05:29 pm »
I just took delivery of a new 200 and with about 5 hours on it with a house full of people last night and more on the way today it will be some time before I have an informed opinion to make. I didn't even register it or check for updates on their site. Once all that is done and my speaker cables have to resettle in (had to reverse them to use my bananas on the amp end as the spades wouldn't fit), get a few more hours on the unit I will be happy to report back with an update. I will advise that if you want to use an aftermarket power cord it will have to have a termination at the amp end that isn't too large in diameter or you won't get the rear panel that covers all the connections to attach.

Seasons greetings to all.

If you push and hold the right button on the remote, it will take you to a display that will show you what firmare the unit has loaded. If it's not 7.1.1, I suggest you update the firmware before you do serious listening.

The new Cardas IEC fits under the rear cover.

Here's a recent review of the 200:

http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/the-devialet-200-review-hifi-at-its-finest/

Lots of Devialet user info is available here:

http://devialetchat.com/index.php

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« Reply #5 on: 26 Dec 2014, 05:40 pm »
UL,

I know an AC member who (I believe) owns a Devialet amp. I'll PM him asking if he would post his impressions here.

Michael
 

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« Reply #6 on: 26 Dec 2014, 09:12 pm »
jhm731 - thanks for the recommendations. I tired to update from 7.1.0 to 7.1.1 but failed miserably , neither the website nor manual is over-detailed on how to accomplish this function. I am sure I am just missing something easy and have emailed Devialet for assistance.

jhm731

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« Reply #7 on: 26 Dec 2014, 09:49 pm »
jhm731 - thanks for the recommendations. I tired to update from 7.1.0 to 7.1.1 but failed miserably , neither the website nor manual is over-detailed on how to accomplish this function. I am sure I am just missing something easy and have emailed Devialet for assistance.

First delete everything on the SD card.

After downloading the 7.1.1 file, you need to open up the folder and copy the 17 files on to the SD card.

Then follow the instructions on page 17 of the manual.

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Re: Devialet - no posts here?
« Reply #8 on: 26 Dec 2014, 10:44 pm »
One reason is the site of this company is one of most unfriendly I have see.
They dont want people know these amps.
http://en.devialet.com/phantom/

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« Reply #9 on: 27 Dec 2014, 12:00 am »
Jhm371 - I finally got it, thank you for the follow up. There were 17 files in the update but I found a thread on their website advising to add in another "txt" file needed for updates and did so prior to retrying. Cannot confirm it made any difference or not, maybe I just wasn't following the process correctly in the past  :scratch:, but its been verified now as "successful" and holding down the right button on the remote advises current software is in fact 7.1.1  :thumb:

Thanks again!

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Re: Devialet - no posts here?
« Reply #10 on: 27 Dec 2014, 01:25 am »
I would love to try one, maybe someone could buy one and put it on an AC tour? :D

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« Reply #11 on: 27 Dec 2014, 03:56 am »
LOL. At US$6500 minimum a pop (their lowest end model) that would be quite a feat....:)   But I'm sure there will be many takers..including myself.

UL


I would love to try one, maybe someone could buy one and put it on an AC tour? :D

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« Reply #12 on: 27 Dec 2014, 03:57 am »
Usually reviews are complete hyperbole, but the integrated review posted is mighty tempting. I have been thinking about an integrated for a while, and the devialet unit looks pretty sweet.

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« Reply #13 on: 27 Dec 2014, 10:09 pm »
No Hyperbole...


http://www.stereophile.com/content/devialet-d-premier-da-integrated-amplifier-measurements

Other than its slightly anomalous behavior via WiFi, the Devialet D-Premier's measured performance is a testament to what can be obtained with switching-amplifier technology. However, sustained high-power operation into speakers with an impedance of 4 ohms or below is best avoided.— John Atkinson


Rule me out .......  8)

jhm731

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« Reply #14 on: 28 Dec 2014, 01:36 am »
No Hyperbole...


http://www.stereophile.com/content/devialet-d-premier-da-integrated-amplifier-measurements

Other than its slightly anomalous behavior via WiFi, the Devialet D-Premier's measured performance is a testament to what can be obtained with switching-amplifier technology. However, sustained high-power operation into speakers with an impedance of 4 ohms or below is best avoided.— John Atkinson


Rule me out .......  8)

That review is two years old.

The Devialet D-Premier was upgraded to the 240, and a firmware upgrade turned it into the 250. If you need more power, you can bridge a pair of 250s into a 800.

The Devialets don't seem to have any problem driving the 4 ohm Magico speakers:

http://www.soundstageultra.com/index.php/features-menu/opinion-menu/494-devialet-sam-and-the-changing-of-the-high-end-guard

http://www.ultraaudio.com/index.php/equipment-menu/528-devialet-400-mono-integrated-amplifier-dacs


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« Reply #15 on: 29 Dec 2014, 08:11 pm »
I bought the Devialet 200 back in October and have 0 regrets.  An absolutely fantastic machine.

I've had a DarTZeel CTH integrated and top line SimAudio separates along with a dCS Debussy dac and don't miss the separates at all.  I firmly believe I'm hearing the best sound quality I've ever had.  The simple form factor, truly integrated and optimized devices, user adjustability and upgradeability are without match (that I am aware of).  A big selling point for me with the Devialet was the ability to high pass filter the output for my Vandersteen 5As (allowing me to eliminate the inline HP filters needed).  In addition, it offers a HT bypass mode.  You get an amp, preamp, dac, streamer and phono preamp all in one stylish medium size pizza box shape.

On the financial side, I'm way ahead as well.  The 200 replaced a really nice separate amp, preamp and dac along with two sets of AQ Sky interconnects and two VH Audio power cords which sold (used) for roughly $17K.  The Devialet 200 retails for ~$9,500. 

TONEAudio and SoundStage Ultra have great reviews to check out, as well as some linked on their website.  The only drawback I've encountered is actually the Devialet website.  As mentioned below, it's really clunky to navigate.

Highly recommended!
Kenreau

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« Reply #16 on: 29 Dec 2014, 08:35 pm »
I bought the Devialet 200 back in October and have 0 regrets.  An absolutely fantastic machine.

On the financial side, I'm way ahead as well.  The 200 replaced a really nice separate amp, preamp and dac along with two sets of AQ Sky interconnects and two VH Audio power cords which sold (used) for roughly $17K.  The Devialet 200 retails for ~$9,500. 

TONEAudio and SoundStage Ultra have great reviews to check out, as well as some linked on their website.  The only drawback I've encountered is actually the Devialet website.  As mentioned below, it's really clunky to navigate.

Highly recommended!
Kenreau

Wow that's quite an endorsement!

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« Reply #17 on: 3 Jan 2015, 08:41 am »
I'm in Vancouver BC right now visiting friends. Today, we went to Liquid Audio to check out their wares. First off we listened to Fidelity Acoustics stand mount speakers (Revelator mid woofer and ring radiator tweeter) powered by a Rogue Audio integrated hybrid amp (100w/ch). Damn but those speakers sound wonderful.

Next we got to listen to the same speakers powered by the Devialet 120 model. They sounded wonderful. I can't tell if the Devialet was better because we had moved to another area with different acoustics plus the first setup had used a Marantz CD player and the Devialet was streaming music. Nonetheless it sounded great.

Next we were taken to the best room with the mono bridged 200 amps powering top of the line Magico floor standers. Okay. These sounded F$&@/(! AMAZING! Thunderous bass, stunning mids clear HF. So now I get why folks like big Magicos. Of course, I can't afford them, but it sure was nice to pretend.

I do have one nitpick...the salesman, although very knowledgeable and helpful, kept playing 'audiophile ' music. It was music (we felt) that was carefully chosen to demonstrate each speaker's strengths and downplay any weaknesses. If I can go back, I'll definitely be prepared with my own music choices to better gauge SQ.

I'm not convinced Devialet is where I want to be based on so little time (and the fact that I only recently bought an AVA 400R amp! which I love), but I am definitely impressed. I'm especially happy that I finally got to listen to a pair of Revelator mid/ring radiator tweeter speakers. Now I understand why they are so loved and sought after. The Fidelity Acoustics stand mount speakers sell for $3500 Canadian, but Fritz Speakers has nearly identical speakers for $2500.  Hmmm.

I hope this is helpful.

Michael

Edit: I found an interesting tidbit that suggests the 'salesman' in that store is also the designer/owner(?) of Fidelity Acoustics. No wonder he had such an intimate knowledge of that line. I am not suggesting he misled; he simply didn't offer this information.
« Last Edit: 3 Jan 2015, 04:30 pm by mresseguie »

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« Reply #18 on: 3 Jan 2015, 04:37 pm »
JMH, thanks for the links .......

Jeff Fritz should now move on to proper a/b comparisions with level matching to confirm his venacular explosion. Does anyone know what it is  they are measuring for their sam database is it FR and imp-z with phase ... ?


Kenreau , good stuff ........


I bought the Devialet 200 back in October and have 0 regrets.  An absolutely fantastic machine.

I've had a DarTZeel CTH integrated and top line SimAudio separates along with a dCS Debussy dac and don't miss the separates at all.  I firmly believe I'm hearing the best sound quality I've ever had.  The simple form factor, truly integrated and optimized devices, user adjustability and upgradeability are without match (that I am aware of).  A big selling point for me with the Devialet was the ability to high pass filter the output for my Vandersteen 5As (allowing me to eliminate the inline HP filters needed).  In addition, it offers a HT bypass mode.  You get an amp, preamp, dac, streamer and phono preamp all in one stylish medium size pizza box shape.

On the financial side, I'm way ahead as well.  The 200 replaced a really nice separate amp, preamp and dac along with two sets of AQ Sky interconnects and two VH Audio power cords which sold (used) for roughly $17K.  The Devialet 200 retails for ~$9,500. 

TONEAudio and SoundStage Ultra have great reviews to check out, as well as some linked on their website.  The only drawback I've encountered is actually the Devialet website.  As mentioned below, it's really clunky to navigate.

Highly recommended!
Kenreau
« Last Edit: 3 Jan 2015, 05:44 pm by a.wayne »

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Re: Devialet - no posts here?
« Reply #19 on: 7 Jan 2015, 04:27 am »
I took delivery of my D200 yesterday, so I guess we can expect some input from me here :-). The 200 replaced a Peachtree Grand Integrated X1 (soon to be listed). Granted that pricewise it was a big step up, but I honestly believe that it plays in a different weight class.

Part one is well documented: limited market for high end audio, crowded space, etc. etc.

Michael, I guess this is a two-part problem. Part one is that the Devialet is as much of a high-tech device as it is an audio device, and that doesn't quite resonate with people. Folks are more than willing to spend $1000 on an iPhone 6 plus - which granted, does more, but in amount of time spent with, is a close contender to your sound center. Part two is that the audio enthusiast community (which gets severely limited when prices increase) has been brainwashed with the "fact" that "Class D is trash - no matter what any sales person tries to tell you, Class D is the poor man's Benz.". That sales person's job just got infinitely harder between the mind-blowing technology and the distinction between ADH and Class D.

Needless to say, I have found haven with the Devialet 200 for a few years at least. Do let me know if you guys have questions - happy to answer.