[soliver]

So I definitely want to move into a BDP as my "transport" for digital.

I currently have a Synology NAS in an AV closet away from my equipment, with more than enough storage fro me
It currently feeds my PS Audio bridge with a routed through the walls Cat-5 Ethernet cable, pretty elegant solution.

So I don't need the internal hard drive, and now with flash thumb drives getting up to 1TB in size, not sure it would ever be needed, as I would probably just go with that instead.

All that to say if I don't care about an internal harddrive, is there a legitimate reason to pick the BDP-2?

No one has stated that the BDP-2 performs, i.e. sounds, better.  Is that still true?
Nor have I seen that any functionality is lost with the Manic Moose update by the BDP-1.

Seeking Guidance

[Mag]

Initially I think I would have preferred the BDP-2. Now that I've gotten use to the BDP-1 using thumb drives I kinda like it.

 I've used 8, 16, 32 GB and I prefer 8's because the file size is more manageable usually 10 albums. So you can put all your Rush albums on one thumb drive, and Trance music on another, etc.. I may buy a 128 GB or larger as a backup for my computer files.

Drives aren't indestructible, even thumb drives. I've had a few fail, one that's about to break. So buying 8 GB are cheap, just keep track of what you have on it so you can easily replace it.

Autodrive thumb drives to my ears sound the best

 

[unincognito]

Unless you buy second hand I think we are down to just the BDP-2

[kevin360]

The one potential advantage that might influence me is DSD support. It's not possible in the BDP-1, but it is in the BDP-2 - it's just not available...yet ((to the best of my knowledge) a situation that could change). Eh, I have DSD support via SACD.

Otherwise, I'm plenty happy with my BDP-1. It's remarkably reliable/stable for a computer. I'm still on the latest release of Loony Loon firmware (my first go at a Manic Moose beta produced a player with a cool interface that did next to nothing, but it was a snap to get back to the current firmware - thinking about having another go). I guess the answer to your question depends on your current and future needs, and the latter can be tough to predict. Either way, you'll have a winner. If the BDP-2 had been released before I purchased my BDP-1, I wouldn't have the BDP-1, but would I have spent $800 wisely? (probably not, but... )

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Audio Advisor's website states that they have BDP-1s in stock.

[bjski]

Just replaced my BDP-1 in my 2 channel system with the BDP-2. I have not done any serious listening yet but I do believe the gain is higher with the BDP-2 than BDP-1. I do think the bugs need to be worked out with Maniac Moose. My unit still doesn't show any sampling rate. You need to watch your thumb drives with the BDP-2 if it's connected to the Bryston Bit or you get the dreaded error 9. I definitely think the BDA-1 & 2 sound better than the BDC-1 but it's only my opinion.

My BDP-1 is going into my home theater. I'll stay with the old format for a while.

[drummermitchell]

yes that FKN 09,then you have to send it back and perhaps a surgex conditioner might fix it,but it still cost you a few hundred to send it back for repair +the added surgex or other power bar which isn't stated when you buy it that you probably should have that in the chain.
As I've stated before my Oppo's have run FLAWLESS for years and yet This BDP-2,09-04 codes WTF,have you sending it back.
These are not built like industrial work horses  or space industry advertising,other wise my Oppo's are obviously way superior in dependability.
Don't get me wrong,I like the BDP-2 for sound and convenience,but my Oppo's thus far are way more dependable.
Yes I'm pissed,why put something out that has lots of bugs(work in progress) and isn't as dependable as an Oppo for way less money.
I'm not the only one with BDP troubles as I'm the only one who vents publicly.
Besides all that,still waiting for the BDP-2 to come back,but thats OK as my Oppo plays me one disc at a time with NO ERRORS.
I wonder WHY that is,and it has MOVING PARTS,do moving or non moving parts matter,I THINK NOT as far as what I've experienced.
A few grand for headaches,nice one .

[zuluwarrior0760]

I have a BDP2, can't speak to the 1, I do have an internal SSD.....
I believe the 2 is quicker in terms of load time and supports DSD
w/ manic moose thru usb. 

I hate manic moose, it's buggy and it's been a year since they said
it was coming out of beta (never happened)....

if I was doing it over again, I'd look seriously at the new
Auralic Aries, it's less $$ and looks like a wonderful piece, but
who knows......

The Bryston's sound quality is above reproach tho.....I just think
their firmware and interfaces aren't really prime time.....

[ttsto]

I have BDP1. Sound quality is great. Initially I was concerned about usability but I find it 100% satisfying:
- music is stored on NAS
- remote control from PC is Cantata
- remote control from smartphone is MPDroid
I use proprietary interface only for set-up and sw upgrade as it is not stable, lacks ergonomics, responds with delay
The only question remains about DSD - no clear position from Bryston I guess. But for me this is not important.

[James Tanner]

Hi James,

I just received my bdp2 and got it installed. This thing never ceases to amaze me! I had previously altered my system and my Mac Mini running Audirvana was sounding really awesome again. But the BDP is just clearly superior...and that's after only 10 minutes of use! Who buys a CD player anymore?!

Anyway thanks again for your help. Oh and the speaker plugs was also a very nice gesture! They're not making a huge difference in my room (a difference none the less) but I plan on trying them in the store in as many configurations as possible.

Thanks!
James

[James Tanner]

Hi Soliver

I would go with the BDP-2 as it has much more computing power and as we go forward products like the BOT will work more seamlessly.  We are down to our last few BDP-1's and will probably only offer them as a special order only going forward.

The BDP-2 can play DSD DOP files with the Manic Moose software.

james

[soliver]

Well I got a bdp-2 and I guess the decision was easy, as my dealer said they could only order 2's moving forward.

Looking forward to it.

Thanks for the input though.

[Rod_S]

The BDP-2 can play DSD DOP files with the Manic Moose software.

james

So the BDP-2 can play DSD files now with the current software providing the files are .dop extensions? Is that what you meant by DOP files? I'm trying to get my head around the DSD thing and just yesterday I was reading on another forum that the DSD downloads on the AcousticSounds website are .dsf extension. What's the difference?

[Rod_S]

Hi Soliver

I would go with the BDP-2 as it has much more computing power and as we go forward products like the BOT will work more seamlessly. 
james

There's the mention of this BOT again. James can you explain what this product is, is going to be, etc.? Once my 28's are paid off my next piece of gear is likely to be a digital player and that is currently short listed to the BDP-2 however if I end up purchasing that and then something else comes out shortly afterward that may fit my needs better (or is simply a better product) I will be mighty ticked off given the expense of the BDP-2 If waiting for this BOT means holding off on a purchase for a few months I'm just fine with that so that the 2 products could be evaluated together.

[James Tanner]

Hi Rod,

Bryston BOT-1 (Bryston Optical Drive)

It is a Drive which connects to the Bryston BDP-2 digital player using the USB on the BOT-1 and one of the USB’s on the BDP-2 digital player.

You can play a CD or you can rip the CD to an attached drive

The benefit is that the CD data is stored in memory in the BDP-2 digital player and reproduced using the high quality playback capability of the BDP-2.

James

[Rod_S]

Hi Rod,

Bryston BOT-1 (Bryston Optical Drive)

It is a Drive which connects to the Bryston BDP-2 digital player using the USB on the BOT-1 and one of the USB’s on the BDP-2 digital player.

You can play a CD or you can rip the CD to an attached drive

The benefit is that the CD data is stored in memory in the BDP-2 digital player and reproduced using the high quality playback capability of the BDP-2.

James

Thanks very much James, this was just what I was looking for. So it's not a successor or parallel product to the BDP-2, rather an accessory or companion piece of sorts. Neat

[unincognito]

The one potential advantage that might influence me is DSD support. It's not possible in the BDP-1, but it is in the BDP-2 - it's just not available...yet ((to the best of my knowledge) a situation that could change). Eh, I have DSD support via SACD.

Otherwise, I'm plenty happy with my BDP-1. It's remarkably reliable/stable for a computer. I'm still on the latest release of Loony Loon firmware (my first go at a Manic Moose beta produced a player with a cool interface that did next to nothing, but it was a snap to get back to the current firmware - thinking about having another go). I guess the answer to your question depends on your current and future needs, and the latter can be tough to predict. Either way, you'll have a winner. If the BDP-2 had been released before I purchased my BDP-1, I wouldn't have the BDP-1, but would I have spent $800 wisely? (probably not, but... )

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Audio Advisor's website states that they have BDP-1s in stock.

The BDP-1 was just discontinued, hence why I stated purchase quickly as we have stopped producing them in there current form.  Bryston dealers that still have stock can still sell them but currently they can not order more.  I had witnessed the last three BDP-1's ever to be produced, checked out from manufacturing last week.

Both BDP's support DSD playback, more info can be found in the manic moose manual and thread found in the Bryston section of this forum.

[unincognito]

So the BDP-2 can play DSD files now with the current software providing the files are .dop extensions? Is that what you meant by DOP files? I'm trying to get my head around the DSD thing and just yesterday I was reading on another forum that the DSD downloads on the AcousticSounds website are .dsf extension. What's the difference?

What James meant to say is it playback DSD (.dsf) files over DoP.  It's a form of playing back DSD files in there natural DSD form.

Cheers,
Chris

[Rod_S]

Thanks for clarifying Chris

[R. Daneel]

The BDP-1 was just discontinued, hence why I stated purchase quickly as we have stopped producing them in there current form.  Bryston dealers that still have stock can still sell them but currently they can not order more.  I had witnessed the last three BDP-1's ever to be produced, checked out from manufacturing last week.

Both BDP's support DSD playback, more info can be found in the manic moose manual and thread found in the Bryston section of this forum.

Chris, my dealer just informed me yesterday they have received my BDP-1 and that I should come and pick it up. This possibly means you had actually witnessed the production of my very own BDP-1! If it is not a secret, how many BDP-1s have you produced in total? According to Mr. Spence, mine is S/N 1043.

Best,
Antun

[kevin360]

Both BDP's support DSD playback, more info can be found in the manic moose manual and thread found in the Bryston section of this forum.

Ooh, I find this bit of news somewhat bittersweet. If my player will do it, my DAC is now the obstacle. Perhaps, I'll just have to get a BDA-2 to replace my Audio Research DAC7, eh?

I think I'll have a go at Manic Moose tonight. That moose was rather manic the last time, but that was pretty early. The escape route is painless enough if I choose to revert (again). Thanks for that, by the way.

I would go with the BDP-2 as it has much more computing power and as we go forward products like the BOT will work more seamlessly.

Ah, yes, I had forgotten about the BOT - an excellent product concept. Am I correct in inferring that  the BDP-1 will permit the use of the BOT, but in a less ideal manner? I guess I need to follow bjski's example. Get a BDP-2 and slide the BDP-1 into the second system.