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loving_it

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« on: 26 Feb 2014, 01:56 pm »
I was listening to some vinyl this morning and noticed some static so I washed my record and cleaned my stylus again but it didn't change , I then used the balance control for my preamp and noticed it was only coming from the right speaker and none from the left . I then swapped the left and right output on my phono stage and the noise wen to the left speaker . Any Ideas on how to pin point the issue ?

bacobits1

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« Reply #1 on: 26 Feb 2014, 02:15 pm »
You are using a tube Phono?
May be a tube?

loving_it

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« Reply #2 on: 26 Feb 2014, 02:21 pm »
Yes I am and I will check that right now since I have extra tubes  thanks

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« Reply #3 on: 26 Feb 2014, 02:37 pm »
nope thats not it , I'm going to try a few different albums also and see

John Casler

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« Reply #4 on: 26 Feb 2014, 03:15 pm »
This may sound strange, but do the following:

1) Take the volume control and turn it from complete left to complete right 20-50 times
2) repeat the same thing for the balance control

Often times oxidation can build up on these controls and cause a static type sound.

If this works, then you should perform the same function 2-3 times a year.

loving_it

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« Reply #5 on: 26 Feb 2014, 04:21 pm »
looks to be the new album I just opened this sux

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« Reply #6 on: 26 Feb 2014, 04:45 pm »
Something similar happened to me last year. Got a copy of the new George Benson "Guitar Man" LP. side one sounded very crackly, even after a washing. Side 2 was just fine. So I contacted the seller and they sent me a new album.

Played side one and went "ahhh, that's better". Then I flipped it over and side 2 was all crackly. So I sent it back and got a refund. Just bad pressing quality all around on that one, I guess.


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« Reply #7 on: 26 Feb 2014, 05:05 pm »
Welcome to the world of Vinyl. It used to be a much more common occurrence.

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loving_it

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« Reply #8 on: 26 Feb 2014, 05:17 pm »
180G Brothers In Arms

JackD

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« Reply #9 on: 26 Feb 2014, 08:04 pm »
If that is one of the ones pressed at CZ like in the recent box set, they need to be washed first several times and then they still might be noisy.

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« Reply #10 on: 26 Feb 2014, 08:36 pm »
If that is one of the ones pressed at CZ like in the recent box set, they need to be washed first several times and then they still might be noisy.

I used my 16.5 4x still same thing  I don't think the cleaner I have that came with the machine works the best. I noticed on most records any finger prints never seem to leave , might be from leaving the top open on the cleaner . I ll have to do some research and find a good cleaner

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« Reply #11 on: 26 Feb 2014, 10:33 pm »
I cleaned all of the CZ pressed lp's from the Dire Straits sets two four step cycles on the VPI before playing them the first time.  Those sleeves they used left the albums covered in trash and that doesn't include the scuffs and fingerprints. 

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« Reply #12 on: 27 Feb 2014, 01:11 am »
I recently purchased Mobile Fidelity's "Plus Enzyme Cleaner" to try on my nitty gritty machine. Wow, I think this stuff can take the noise down yet another level on some of my really dirty (used), difficult to clean records. I'm going to re-order the enzyme stuff when it runs out. Maybe you should give it a shot.

I also learned the hard way that you can induce noise into an otherwise clean record if you rush through the  cleaning process. Especially by not letting the fluid sit long enough and also by either drying it too long or not long enough. Well, at least I know that I can do that with my machine. It's kind of touchy, this whole record cleaning business.

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« Reply #13 on: 27 Feb 2014, 12:43 pm »
I recently purchased Mobile Fidelity's "Plus Enzyme Cleaner" to try on my nitty gritty machine. Wow, I think this stuff can take the noise down yet another level on some of my really dirty (used), difficult to clean records. I'm going to re-order the enzyme stuff when it runs out. Maybe you should give it a shot.

I also learned the hard way that you can induce noise into an otherwise clean record if you rush through the  cleaning process. Especially by not letting the fluid sit long enough and also by either drying it too long or not long enough. Well, at least I know that I can do that with my machine. It's kind of touchy, this whole record cleaning business.

 Do you follow up with anything after the  Plus Enzyme Cleaner  , MD told me once you should use a reg cleaner after the Plus Enzyme Cleaner.

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« Reply #14 on: 27 Feb 2014, 03:31 pm »
No, I don't normally follow up with a second cleaning after the enzyme cleaner. I only use the enzyme cleaner on records that I previously cleaned with my regular cleaner (on the nitty gritty machine), on records that still sound noisy after a regular cleaning. Maybe I am doing it wrong.

It all seems like a crapshoot to me. :dunno:


Gzerro

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« Reply #15 on: 27 Feb 2014, 05:45 pm »
I found that a rinse or even two is a big improvement over just cleaning. Especially with 98%+ lab water, but distilled is ok too.




vinyl_guy

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« Reply #16 on: 27 Feb 2014, 06:06 pm »
I believe all records, new and used, should be cleaned before playing. New records have a mold-release compound that needs to be removed by cleaning.

Gzerro

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« Reply #17 on: 27 Feb 2014, 06:39 pm »
I believe all records, new and used, should be cleaned before playing. New records have a mold-release compound that needs to be removed by cleaning.

Do you use any special cleaner for this, or do you think most formulations are ok?


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« Reply #18 on: 27 Feb 2014, 06:52 pm »
Do you use any special cleaner for this, or do you think most formulations are ok?

I have two cleaning machines, a Loricraft PC-4 and an Audio Desk ultrasonic. Before I bought the Audio Desk I cleaned all records with the Loricraft using Audio Intelligent (both the two step enzyme or the stronger one-step), or Disc Doctor fluids. Both worked well. After cleaning, I rinse with de-ionized reverse osmosis water I buy at Culligan. Now I clean new records with only the Audio Desk and it is the best cleaning machine I have ever owned. It gets into the grooves better than either a VPI or Loricraft. With used records I sometimes clean first with the Loricraft, especially if there are fingerprints or other visible dirt followed by the Audio Desk.

Laura

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« Reply #19 on: 27 Feb 2014, 08:06 pm »
I found that a rinse or even two is a big improvement over just cleaning. Especially with 98%+ lab water, but distilled is ok too.

Do you air dry after the rinse?


After cleaning, I rinse with de-ionized reverse osmosis water I buy at Culligan.

Air dried after the rinse, or back on the Loricraft to dry?