Dynaco Pricing question

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Indiansprings

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Dynaco Pricing question
« on: 7 Jul 2013, 03:52 pm »
I want to sell my old Dynaco system. This is a legit question and not a sale ad.
PAS-3
FM3
ST-70
Whoever built it did a fantastic job. even has little check marks by each item that was completed in the manual. Everything is in the original condition. A little pitting on the amp but pretty nice for the age. The ST-70 has had some of the caps replaced with orange drops.
The FM-3 and the PAS-3 still have all the original Dynaco tubes.
Its a really neat retro system. How do I put a price on it. I was thinking I should do a No Reserve ebay ad and sell it as a package. Its always been together, so I hate to piece it out. So whats it worth? :scratch:

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Re: Dynaco Pricing question
« Reply #1 on: 7 Jul 2013, 04:45 pm »
My .02c's - I wouldn't sell it them on Ebay unless your top priority is to get rid of all of it fast.  Aside from the higher fees (ebay + paypal), I don't think you'll get as much money for them as you would trying to sell here on AC trading circle, audiogon, USAudiomart, etc.  Dynaco is popular entry level + hobbyist gear so you shouldn't have trouble selling it reasonably quick. Ebay for me is often good for buying, but my last resort for selling.

Secondly : I also don't recommend trying to sell it all as a package, or at the very least not making that a condition of sale.  I personally hate that : rarely if every am I in the market for a "package", but for particular items.  You only do a package either because you have a weak piece among the group you'd have difficulty selling alone, or hopefully it's a way to unload all quickly.  But for that you need to offer a lower "package" price vs the individual components.  I suspect the tuner will be the least interesting item to the market, but you never know - there is a market, albeit smaller, for vintage tuners.

Lastly, make sure you add lots of photos : condition, particularly cosmetics, is often a big part of the value of vintage gear.  Much Dynaco gear ends up in the hands of tinkers who end up doing substantial parts + cosmetic changes, so finding good condition unmolested Dyanco gear is a plus.  If that's your case, flaunt it.

As for component prices, you can search ebay + audiogon etc price history to see what market prices are.  I'm going to guess $350 - 550 for the amp and the preamp individually based on condition. Don't really know about the tuner. 

Best of luck!  If I didn't already have some many tube amps I'd make you an offer on that ST70!

Indiansprings

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Re: Dynaco Pricing question
« Reply #2 on: 7 Jul 2013, 05:19 pm »
Thanks for the quick reply. You make some good points. It's one of those things I have been putting off because I don't really want to sell them. My wife has a valid point though. They are doing nothing but sitting around and I probably won't play them anymore. So I will sell them. Just saying that made her happy. Maybe that's all I have to do. Say it. Lol.

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Re: Dynaco Pricing question
« Reply #3 on: 7 Jul 2013, 06:14 pm »
Well in that case, by all means list it as a package w/ a high reserve on ebay!   :lol:

Then you can make a show that you tried to sell them......then place the gear somewhere out of sight until you're ready to use them again.  Out of sight, out of mind.......

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« Reply #4 on: 7 Jul 2013, 06:19 pm »
Why not hook some speakers up to the lot, give it to her as a surprise gift and then take her out to dinner and a movie?
That's what I would do and then the gear gets used, you get to keep it and she gets a night out.

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Re: Dynaco Pricing question
« Reply #5 on: 7 Jul 2013, 10:21 pm »
Well in that case, by all means list it as a package w/ a high reserve on ebay!   :lol:

Then you can make a show that you tried to sell them......then place the gear somewhere out of sight until you're ready to use them again.  Out of sight, out of mind.......

I'm with jarcher !! If you really love them then hold on to them. I'm sorry but your wife should not come in to play here. This is your hobby and not hers.
Unless it's a money deal and you need to sell the Dynaco rig before you can purchase another
 

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« Reply #6 on: 7 Jul 2013, 10:33 pm »
^^Ditto.

The *set* is priceless. They simply can't be sold.  :thumb:


pansixt

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« Reply #7 on: 7 Jul 2013, 10:45 pm »
Pman,

I'm with jarcher too. Devious as his advice is.  :icon_twisted:

Lots of changes with my system over the ears, but the Dyna is still with me. Improved by Frank as it is,
it is just not enough for the Maggies.

I would love to have IS's system in my other room with my old EV's connected to it. I'm not sure my Dyna has ever been
paired better.

Oh, and Steve Ford should be commended for such romantic advice. :thumb:

James

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Re: Dynaco Pricing question
« Reply #8 on: 7 Jul 2013, 10:55 pm »
If anyone knows of a single lady who would appreciate Dynaco tube gear as a present, send her my way.......

Gave the ex a Glow Audio tube gear system (SET integrated, speakers, sub), but I think she was more into it for the cosmetics than the sound....

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Re: Dynaco Pricing question
« Reply #9 on: 8 Jul 2013, 01:31 am »
The biggest thing is, I probably wont use it. I have moved up over the years and really like my present system.
In all fairness the Dynaco system is just going to sit in the closet. I should let it go to someone that would enjoy it as I did.

pansixt

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« Reply #10 on: 8 Jul 2013, 02:52 am »
I should let it go to someone that would enjoy it as I did.

And there it is.
That's how lots of us have evolved in this hobby. Some could get started or live happily with your used system.
If they just had the chance. And the sense.

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« Reply #11 on: 8 Jul 2013, 03:03 am »
and that being said...  it might be an idea to try  sell it  as a package  first. 
I understand  that  it may not be the easiest way to do it but if you'd  kind of  "like " to see the system stay together and    getting the highest possible price isn't  your main goal.   seeing  if there is any interest as a package might be the way to go.  Like mentioned above,    you  may  find a good home for it all   where it will make someone very happy.
You can always break it up later if you have to.

-jay

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« Reply #12 on: 8 Jul 2013, 01:04 pm »
The biggest thing is, I probably wont use it. I have moved up over the years and really like my present system.
In all fairness the Dynaco system is just going to sit in the closet. I should let it go to someone that would enjoy it as I did.

I know how it is.....

However, if you are going to let it go, then let it go. Sell it as individual pieces. The first thing most buyers will be thinking when looking at the lot will be "hm, if I sell X and Y, how much will I get, and will the Z that I want then be a good deal"...

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Re: Dynaco Pricing question
« Reply #13 on: 8 Jul 2013, 01:43 pm »
Indiansprings, you said that "everything is in original condition", but you neglected to tell us how well each unit is performing electrically.

Will the amplifier bias properly at 1.56V DC at the front panel biasset tube socket pins?  Do both channels have equal clean output?

Are the preamplifier switches and controls and jacks noise free and working properly?  How about hum levels in the components?  Do both channels have equal output with the balance control centered?

Will the FM3 tune stations on their correct frequency positions?  Does the tuned window close properly? Will it play quietly in stereo?  Does the stereo window close properly?  How much background hum does it have.

Your description needs some help to allow you to get best value from these units.  Right now its like saying that you have an old car with decent bodywork, but not mentioning whether it runs and drives well or not.

Regards,

Frank Van Alstine


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Re: Dynaco Pricing question
« Reply #14 on: 8 Jul 2013, 02:38 pm »
I know how it is.....

However, if you are going to let it go, then let it go. Sell it as individual pieces. The first thing most buyers will be thinking when looking at the lot will be "hm, if I sell X and Y, how much will I get, and will the Z that I want then be a good deal"...

My sentiments exactly.  Not to long ago I sold off components from an earlier system as I knew that while they were still good, I had moved on with better gear & was unlikely to use them after more than a year of non-use. I sold them off individually, many here on AC trading circle.  I think that because each component was relatively low cost also helped.

On the other hand, I was reluctant to take a similar package deal recently for an amp, preamp, and tuner from someone else because I was mostly interested in the amp and was thinking what I would have to do to sell off the tuner and maybe the preamp vs just getting the amp elsewhere.  I think it took the seller more than 6 months to sell the package after having to further reduce the asking price.

So - a long winded way of saying if you want to sell reasonably quick and get the most money, sell the components individually and consider using AC trader. 

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Re: Dynaco Pricing question
« Reply #15 on: 8 Jul 2013, 09:48 pm »
Indiansprings, you said that "everything is in original condition", but you neglected to tell us how well each unit is performing electrically.

Will the amplifier bias properly at 1.56V DC at the front panel biasset tube socket pins?  Do both channels have equal clean output?

Are the preamplifier switches and controls and jacks noise free and working properly?  How about hum levels in the components?  Do both channels have equal output with the balance control centered?

Will the FM3 tune stations on their correct frequency positions?  Does the tuned window close properly? Will it play quietly in stereo?  Does the stereo window close properly?  How much background hum does it have.

Your description needs some help to allow you to get best value from these units.  Right now its like saying that you have an old car with decent bodywork, but not mentioning whether it runs and drives well or not.

Regards,

Frank Van Alstine
Frank,

I only know some of what you speak. The amp will bias to 1.56V no problem. I haven't plugged in the PAS-3 since receiving it back from Bill Thomas's brother, which took some legwork. Bill had never pulled it out of the box. I wish he would told me how ill he was and I wouldn't have troubled him with it those last years. I haven't even put the tubes back in it, as a matter of fact. The FM-3 tuning eye worked perfectly the last time I had it fired up. It would actually hold a station but we have some strong signals here in Phoenix.
I would have liked to see my PAS-3 completed by Bill, that would have been something. I hope you were able to get some of your things after I got you in touch with his brother.
Parting it out seems the way to proceed. Ill give AC first crack at it. Ill have to find the time to photograph it all first.
Thanks for the help all.

Mike