Bryston BP-17 Preamp

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Re: Bryston BP-17 Preamp
« Reply #60 on: 20 Jun 2013, 09:52 pm »
Same as BP26p for MM

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Re: Bryston BP-17 Preamp
« Reply #61 on: 25 Jun 2013, 02:39 pm »
Hello,

I'm new to the high end world and I'm looking to slowly build my system. I just picked up my first piece; BDA1 Dac to go with my current set up. I'm currently using an Onkyo  :oops: preamp and I'm looking to upgrade to bryston products. I'm a movie guru but also loves my music.

James, when you said the BP 17 is "laid back" and the BP26 jumps at you, would you say this is more for the HT set up?

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Mon

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Re: Bryston BP-17 Preamp
« Reply #62 on: 25 Jun 2013, 04:10 pm »
Hello,

I'm new to the high end world and I'm looking to slowly build my system. I just picked up my first piece; BDA1 Dac to go with my current set up. I'm currently using an Onkyo  :oops: preamp and I'm looking to upgrade to bryston products. I'm a movie guru but also loves my music.

James, when you said the BP 17 is "laid back" and the BP26 jumps at you, would you say this is more for the HT set up?

Thanks,

Mon

No I meant that the BP26 presenrts the soundstage both forward and back from the speaker plane whereas the BP-17 starts at the plan of the speaker and the soundstage moves back and away from the speaker plane.

james

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Re: Bryston BP-17 Preamp
« Reply #63 on: 25 Jun 2013, 06:06 pm »
No I meant that the BP26 presenrts the soundstage both forward and back from the speaker plane whereas the BP-17 starts at the plan of the speaker and the soundstage moves back and away from the speaker plane.

james

Interesting observation as I experienced just that, as I needed a pre with a built in crossover and HT bypass to the mains and sub, I’ve replaced my BP25P in the meantime with the very affordable Emotiva USP-1.
In my setup, (BCD-1/4BSST/Dynaudio Special 25s/ Velodyne Sub w SMS-1)and in my room the BP25P had a tendency to put the performers up front and in the room with a shallow stage depth, the USP-1 I find has better ability at recreating the original acoustic space behind the plane of the speakers and goes way back, still not sure which I prefer but both sound great.
Yet I’m still hoping that Bryston at one point will release a stereo preamp that will incorporate “HT bypass with crossover to the mains and the sub".







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Re: Bryston BP-17 Preamp
« Reply #64 on: 25 Jun 2013, 06:42 pm »
I have a Bat 32SE as my preamp for 2 channel. I also would be looking for something along the lines of BP-17 if it had balanced inputs or a newer version of the #26 (27).
I just don't see me buying all new cables and/or connections.

Bryston and James are killing me. It's been fabulous times for Bryston from the start of their SST/2 series all the way to their BDP-2 and hopefully soon BOT. Question for me......what's my next purchase? Model T, SP3, or a new 2 channel preamp (#27 LOL)

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Re: Bryston BP-17 Preamp
« Reply #65 on: 26 Jun 2013, 12:29 am »
Interesting observation as I experienced just that, as I needed a pre with a built in crossover and HT bypass to the mains and sub, I’ve replaced my BP25P in the meantime with the very affordable Emotiva USP-1.
In my setup, (BCD-1/4BSST/Dynaudio Special 25s/ Velodyne Sub w SMS-1)and in my room the BP25P had a tendency to put the performers up front and in the room with a shallow stage depth, the USP-1 I find has better ability at recreating the original acoustic space behind the plane of the speakers and goes way back, still not sure which I prefer but both sound great.
Yet I’m still hoping that Bryston at one point will release a stereo preamp that will incorporate “HT bypass with crossover to the mains and the sub".   Yes , this is just what I love about the 25, it's an in your face ,in the room experience.not what is called laid back.







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Re: Bryston BP-17 Preamp
« Reply #66 on: 13 Mar 2015, 02:46 pm »
Wondering if anyone can comment on high preamp current.  I have the 4Bsst2 with PMC OB1i speakers and a VTL 2.5 tube pre.  I am Looking at the BP17 and my dealer said it would be a significant upgrade as it has high current to feed the 4B which is required to really make it sing like it should (saying my pre doesn't have the current and isn't the greatest match). Any comments ?  I know high current is good in amps but haven't heard it discussed in pre's.  Any comments.  And if it would be anoxic able upgrade on my VTL based on these parameters

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Re: Bryston BP-17 Preamp
« Reply #67 on: 14 Mar 2015, 07:17 pm »
Hi,
Written like that seems like the pre-amp powers the power amp, which is not correct, I'm afraid.
There's preamps more suited to match some poweramps, but it's not about feeding the poweramps with lots of eletricity.





Wondering if anyone can comment on high preamp current.  I have the 4Bsst2 with PMC OB1i speakers and a VTL 2.5 tube pre.  I am Looking at the BP17 and my dealer said it would be a significant upgrade as it has high current to feed the 4B which is required to really make it sing like it should (saying my pre doesn't have the current and isn't the greatest match). Any comments ?  I know high current is good in amps but haven't heard it discussed in pre's.  Any comments.  And if it would be anoxic able upgrade on my VTL based on these parameters

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Re: Bryston BP-17 Preamp
« Reply #68 on: 15 Apr 2016, 08:50 pm »
My BP17 just arrived at my dealer; delivery in-house tomorrow. It will replace my trusty B100. 

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Re: Bryston BP-17 Preamp
« Reply #69 on: 17 Apr 2016, 12:29 pm »
Listened to my new BP17 last night, coupled balanced to 14B-squared and VA Mozart Grand SE speakers. So far....

1. I hear a greater amount of transparency vs. my trusty B100 (BP16 pre out). On some music, like Shelby Lynne's "Just a Little Loving" album, there's a tiny amt of vocal tremor and echo (reverb) that I can hear with BP17 and wasn't noticed with B100. It's subtle. A bit eerie.

2. Less distortion with 17 -- "graininess" is banished, what little amount there was with B100. Most evident on some Deutsches Grammophon CDs recorded from the 70s and 80s, classical symphs and string quartets.

3. Noticed zero heat from 17. No fins like B100. Not surprising, as 17 is a dedicated preamp, whereas B100 is an integrated.

4. Still, the voltage output must be massive on the 17. I cannot crank my 17 past 12 o'clock with balanced out to 14B2 (gain on 14B2 is 23 dB). I am 3.65-m (12-ft) away from each speaker, in an equilateral triangle.  Maybe I should go with SE?  All plugged into Triton/Typhon power distributors, so noise floor was always sub-sub-subterranean!  :thumb:

5. Soundstage remains rock-solid, slightly behind speakers and beyond their edges. I certainly don't want the stage to be into my room beside/behind my chair -- that would be phony for two-channel playback of classical music and rock.

Overall, BP17 is, so far, a significant upgrade for my system, a step up from the BP16 inside my B100. The biggest improvement is in lowering the noise floor further and eliminating any tiny amt of "digititis" (edgy grain?) that may have been there in some of my mediocre recordings, especially MP3s/FLAC of 70s rock. Gosh, my MP3s (256 kbps from iTunes) now sound amazing thru BDP-1/BDA-1.

Cheers,








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Re: Bryston BP-17 Preamp
« Reply #70 on: 17 Apr 2016, 01:08 pm »
Nice looking setup - Enjoy!

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From the listening chair:


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Re: Bryston BP-17 Preamp
« Reply #74 on: 17 Apr 2016, 10:18 pm »
Dang, solo piano sounds soooo good now with the BP17.  The synergy so far with the 14B squared is like Bogie and Bacall, Astaire and Rogers.   :thumb:

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Re: Bryston BP-17 Preamp
« Reply #75 on: 19 Apr 2016, 12:47 am »
Hi james,

Where is the transformer located inside the 17? Left or right side looking at front panel?
Are there any photos of the insides?

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Re: Bryston BP-17 Preamp
« Reply #76 on: 19 Apr 2016, 09:55 am »
Hi james,

Where is the transformer located inside the 17? Left or right side looking at front panel?
Are there any photos of the insides?

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On the left I believe but I will check.  I do not have any inside shots currently.

james

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Re: Bryston BP-17 Preamp
« Reply #77 on: 19 Apr 2016, 08:09 pm »
Hi james,

Where is the transformer located inside the 17? Left or right side looking at front panel?
Are there any photos of the insides?

Thanks,

Left of Center, near the front panel


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Re: Bryston BP-17 Preamp
« Reply #78 on: 19 Apr 2016, 09:24 pm »
Left of Center, near the front panel



I have that photo, but wasn't sure of which way was front.
Thanks. Saved me from opening her up.