This is killing me. I need help

pugs · « **on:** 6 Jun 2004, 01:05 pm »

Which should I chose? Here's three options:

1) VMPS RM30C (without 10" woofers) with smaller sub and Beringer EQ, LRC, and dipole surrounds. Front three speakers have FST, soundcoat, and Auricaps

2) Same as above but with RM30M (with 10" woofers) and not sub and EQ

3) Selah RC3 (with Seas mid woofers) stand mounts with two Whomp subs, Sardonyx center, and RC3 surrounds.

I have a big spike at 40Hz and a dip at 60Hz. Possible, I would get two smallers subs, two Beringer EQs with RM-30 C if I went with VMPS.

What would you choose?

Marbles · « **Reply #1 on:** 6 Jun 2004, 02:54 pm »

I too have a room mode at 40 hz.

8th Nerve roompack really helped with it.

I also have an eq on my subs for HT. This makes the subs response almost flat in room at my listening spot (I don't measure any other place in my room).

I would get full range speakers now, either the RM30M's or the Selah's, and add subs/EQ's when I could afford them.

I would get a roompack right away.

rosconey · « **Reply #2 on:** 6 Jun 2004, 03:02 pm »

i will pick speakers for you if you pick a wife for me.

its something you have to do your self,i dont know what you want or expect from your speakers anymore than what you know about what i want from a woman-btw i want a cute rich deaf mute, she wont have to listen to my shit and i wont have to listen to hers

DARTH AUDIO · « **Reply #3 on:** 6 Jun 2004, 03:30 pm »

You forgot 3' tall, big ears and a flat head to rest your beer

pugs · « **Reply #4 on:** 6 Jun 2004, 03:36 pm »

I'm going to see if Rick can put the EQs in the sub for me. That would make my decision a lot easier

nature boy · « **Reply #5 on:** 6 Jun 2004, 03:48 pm »

Suggest you consider passive room treatments with your new speakers. These make all the difference in the world.

Second Marbles suggestion you look into 8th Nerve. Bill and Nathan did wonders for my dedicated two channel room.

NB

pugs · « **Reply #6 on:** 6 Jun 2004, 05:02 pm »

I have a room pack with extra seams. It did help a lot. I think I would rather have an EQ instead of more room treatments.

Marbles · « **Reply #7 on:** 6 Jun 2004, 05:08 pm »

Quote from: pugs

I have a room pack with extra seams. It did help a lot. I think I would rather have an EQ instead of more room treatments.

Since you already have the room pack, then I agree..an EQ on bass would be the next logical and cost effective solution.

I would however get the best speakers I could find now and then add subs and eq later when I could afford them, or now if you can afford it all....

I would chose number 2, and add the subs and eq later. That is only because I am familiar with the VMPS sound and like it.

I have not heard the Selah speakers.

I want to make sure you understand I am not making a judgement as to which is the better speaker, nor am I saying what you should get.

I am only saying what I would get, since you asked.

rosconey · « **Reply #8 on:** 6 Jun 2004, 07:03 pm »

sealed rc3r stand mount with a vmps large sub-
rick did my mains and vmps supplied the large sub-seamless

pugs · « **Reply #9 on:** 6 Jun 2004, 07:20 pm »

Quote from: rosconey

sealed rc3r stand mount with a vmps large sub-
rick did my mains and vmps supplied the large sub-seamless

Which mains do you have and what drivers do they have?

rosconey · « **Reply #10 on:** 6 Jun 2004, 08:07 pm »

they are based on his phast-est design-scan speak tweeter(8513)morel dome mid(md55)and woofers are ebay specials- bad vifa knock offs-
they didnt spec out very low when rick tested them , but it didnt matter for my application-i dont have much money invested at all for the sound

pugs · « **Reply #11 on:** 6 Jun 2004, 10:36 pm »

Quote from: Marbles

Since you already have the room pack, then I agree..an EQ on bass would be the next logical and cost effective solution.

I would however get the best speakers I could find now and then add subs and eq later when I could afford them, or now if you can afford it all....

I would chose number 2, and add the subs and eq later. That is only because I am familiar with the VMPS sound and like it.

I have not heard the Selah speakers.

I want to make sure you understand I am not making a judgement as to w ...

How do I hook up a parametric EQ, like the Behringer that I've seen posted on the VMPS circle, to the 10" side firing woofers. The bass responses between the two mains in my room are extremely different. I'm starting to think that an EQ is a must have in my system.

BTW - does anyone have any feedback on the VMPS dipole (really bipole) SE surrounds. Ribbonspeakers.net really likes them and says they are a great match with the ribbons. I just learned that Rick from Selah doesn't do bipoles. I have a bipole-like set up right now using two set of surrounds pointing in different directions. I really like the way it sounds, and in my opinion sounds a lot better than using one pair. This is another topic, but I think the more sound radiation in the surrounds, the better. I don't agree with the people that say bipole/dipoles are no longer needed in HT.

I've keep changing my mind. Right now, I'm leaning towards VMPS. This morning it was Selah. I just need to figure out how the EQ thing would work. Ideally I would like to use it on the 10" side firing subs and a separate sub Maybe, I should go with the RM30C and get a VMPS sub.

If I get a VMPS sub, which would be best for my room? My room is 14 x 15 x 8. the front half of the left wall opens up to the split level above. Would a larger be too big? I have a NHT SA-3 sub amp I could use for it. It's a class G amp with an active crossover from 35-150 Hz. It has 250W RMS @ 6 Ohms. Frequency response is 10 - 150Hz.

I know I'm kind of rambling here. I'm just thinking out loud. I would really appreciate any opinions about my ramblings