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Recommend a motherboard
« on: 15 Feb 2012, 03:39 am »
Any recommendations on a motherboard and processor combo? (rebuiding a desktop)
 
Requirements:
Four DDR2 slots
Primary & second IDE ports
 
I'm familar with an Asus P5Q SE PLUS and would like something similar but a little better.

WGH

Re: Recommend a motherboard
« Reply #1 on: 15 Feb 2012, 04:45 am »
I had to rebuild my computer at the end of December because after 7 years the motherboard caps leaked.

You will have to switch to DDR3 memory but memory is so cheap now that it is a not a factor.

What I bought:

Asus P8H67-V REV 3.0, if you are not a gamer you don't need a graphics card with this board
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/P8H67V/

Intel I7 2600K, get the K series because both the 2600K and I5 2500K have Intel’s HD Graphics 3000 and the core is
unlocked.
The Sandy Bridge Review: Intel Core i7-2600K, i5-2500K and Core i3-2100 Tested

4 GB Crucial DDR3 1333 ram (CT2KIT25664BD1339)- why buy anything else? I can always add more if I need it.

Sapphire Vapor-X HD6770 - I need to run 2 VGA monitors at the same time and this card does it.
http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?cid=1&gid=3&sgid=1073&lid=1&pid=1193&leg=0

PC Power and Cooling 600W - you might need a new power supply, this one is quiet, has modular cords and has rebates.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703036

Wayne

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Re: Recommend a motherboard
« Reply #2 on: 15 Feb 2012, 04:56 am »
I need an Asus P5Q SE PLUS or similar.

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Re: Recommend a motherboard
« Reply #4 on: 15 Feb 2012, 05:36 am »
It's hard to reuse obsolete memory :)

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Re: Recommend a motherboard
« Reply #5 on: 15 Feb 2012, 06:13 am »
Whole computer is being reused.

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Re: Recommend a motherboard
« Reply #6 on: 15 Feb 2012, 10:56 am »
I had to rebuild my computer at the end of December because after 7 years the motherboard caps leaked.

You will have to switch to DDR3 memory but memory is so cheap now that it is a not a factor.

What I bought:

Asus P8H67-V REV 3.0, if you are not a gamer you don't need a graphics card with this board
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/P8H67V/

Intel I7 2600K, get the K series because both the 2600K and I5 2500K have Intel’s HD Graphics 3000 and the core is
unlocked.
The Sandy Bridge Review: Intel Core i7-2600K, i5-2500K and Core i3-2100 Tested

4 GB Crucial DDR3 1333 ram (CT2KIT25664BD1339)- why buy anything else? I can always add more if I need it.

Sapphire Vapor-X HD6770 - I need to run 2 VGA monitors at the same time and this card does it.
http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?cid=1&gid=3&sgid=1073&lid=1&pid=1193&leg=0

PC Power and Cooling 600W - you might need a new power supply, this one is quiet, has modular cords and has rebates.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703036

Wayne

I have an i3 with the 3000 graphics, though the core isn't unlocked.  For what I do (work from home, HT computer), it's perfectly adequate.  I'm using the on-processor video, too.

WGH

Re: Recommend a motherboard
« Reply #7 on: 15 Feb 2012, 03:20 pm »
It's hard to reuse obsolete memory :)

You have that right. I have 2 GB (4 - 512MB 184-pin DIMM) DDR PC3200 CL=3 Unbuffered NON-ECC DDR400 2.6V that I am going to sell on CraigsList for $15 (unless somebody here wants them).


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Re: Recommend a motherboard
« Reply #8 on: 15 Feb 2012, 03:46 pm »
You have that right. I have 2 GB (4 - 512MB 184-pin DIMM) DDR PC3200 CL=3 Unbuffered NON-ECC DDR400 2.6V that I am going to sell on CraigsList for $15 (unless somebody here wants them).

Exactly. DDR and DDR2 are hideously expensive.

I need an Asus P5Q SE PLUS or similar.

You asked for a motherboard AND processor combo. Why would you go with an ancient Socket 458 board? What is your budget? What's the primary use of the PC? Gaming? Surfing? Content creation?

Also no new motherboards have IDE ports, everything is SATA. You can either buy new hard drives, or buy external enclosures for your IDE drives, or keep the old PC around for storage.

WGH

Re: Recommend a motherboard
« Reply #9 on: 15 Feb 2012, 04:01 pm »
Also no new motherboards have IDE ports..

Yes, some still do. The Asus P8H67-V REV 3.0 I suggested does, I use older IDE drives for storage and backup.
If you prefer an AMD processor to save money a new AM3+ board with IDE, SATA, and USB3 is the ASUS M5A88-V EVO.

Why would you go with an ancient Socket 458 board?

Actually the P5Q SE Plus uses an Intel Socket 775.

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Re: Recommend a motherboard
« Reply #10 on: 15 Feb 2012, 06:09 pm »
Yes, some still do. The Asus P8H67-V REV 3.0 I suggested does, I use older IDE drives for storage and backup.
If you prefer an AMD processor to save money a new AM3+ board with IDE, SATA, and USB3 is the ASUS M5A88-V EVO.
 
Actually the P5Q SE Plus uses an Intel Socket 775.

I get confused about the older P4s. Regardless any single core chip doesn't work very well these days. Interesting that that board comes with an IDE but no floppy; the ASRock board I am running currently is the opposite.

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Re: Recommend a motherboard
« Reply #11 on: 16 Feb 2012, 06:03 am »
Yes, some still do. The Asus P8H67-V REV 3.0 I suggested does, I use older IDE drives for storage and backup.
If you prefer an AMD processor to save money a new AM3+ board with IDE, SATA, and USB3 is the ASUS M5A88-V EVO.

What are some other ASUS options?

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Re: Recommend a motherboard
« Reply #12 on: 16 Feb 2012, 06:37 am »
I have a Biostar A770E AM2+ MB, X2 565 Dual Core CPU, Radeon x1650, and 8GB DDR2 lying around. And a honkin' CPU fan. Will sell for super cheap. PM if interested.

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Re: Recommend a motherboard
« Reply #13 on: 16 Feb 2012, 07:35 am »
I need an Asus P5Q SE PLUS or similar.

Similar in _what_ manner?

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Re: Recommend a motherboard
« Reply #14 on: 16 Feb 2012, 07:51 am »
What are some other ASUS options?

You're not giving anyone much to go on. What's the problem with the ASUS motherboard suggested above?

Is there some particular set of features that you're looking for? Some particular peripherals or old cards that you need to reuse?

What size is your old case? Can it accept a full-sized ATX motherboard?

What is the rating of your power supply?

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Re: Recommend a motherboard
« Reply #15 on: 16 Feb 2012, 08:00 am »
You're not giving anyone much to go on. What's the problem with the ASUS motherboard suggested above?

Is there some particular set of features that you're looking for? Some particular peripherals or old cards that you need to reuse?

What size is your old case? Can it accept a full-sized ATX motherboard?

What is the rating of your power supply?

I'm including it in my list; I also want to know any other options similar to that.

My case works; all I need is a bigger power supply (not important right now).
« Last Edit: 16 Feb 2012, 03:54 pm by mix4fix »

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Re: Recommend a motherboard
« Reply #16 on: 16 Feb 2012, 01:28 pm »
How about a Mothership?




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Re: Recommend a motherboard
« Reply #17 on: 16 Feb 2012, 03:15 pm »
The easiest way to find a motherboard that has the features you want is to use the drop down boxes to narrow results at newegg.com.

In your situation pick CPU Socket Type:Socket 775; Memory Standard:DDR2; PATA:1XATA100 2; and Form Factor:ATX while listening to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UypeE3zTwBs

Intel Motherboards
http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCategory=280&name=Intel-Motherboards

AMD Motherboards
http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCategory=22&name=AMD-Motherboards

You can fine tune search results by:
    Price:
    Manufacturer:
    CPU Socket Type:
    CPU Type:
    North Bridge:
    South Bridge:
    FSB:
    PCI Express 3.0 x16:
    PCI Express 2.0 x16:
    PCI Express x16:
    PCI Slots:
    AGP Slots:
    Number of Memory Slots:
    Memory Standard:
    Maximum Memory Supported:
    PATA:
    SATA 1.5 Gb/s:
    SATA 3Gb/s:
    SATA 6Gb/s:
    SATA RAID:
    Onboard Video Chipset:
    Audio Channels:
    Max LAN Speed:
    USB 1.1/2.0:
    USB 3.0:
    IEEE 1394:
    HDMI:
    DisplayPort:
    eSATA:
    S/PDIF Out:
    Mini Card Slots:
    Form Factor:

A potential speed bump (literally) to your new motherboard quest is memory compatibility. Many times a motherboard needs a specific type of memory or particular specification, this is especially true of older designs. Your existing memory may seem to run fine for a while but occasional blue screens will drive you crazy. Motherboard manufacturers and memory websites have compatibility lists. I recently had to update the BIOS to get a stable system on an AMD computer I just put together for a friend. Luckily ASUS motherboards have a light that goes on and an adjustment button that automatically adjusts the memory timing.

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Re: Recommend a motherboard
« Reply #18 on: 16 Feb 2012, 07:22 pm »
I had occasional bluescreens with a computer where I finally tracked it to the memory modules (which also were new).  It took a while, because the bluescreens were so infrequent (maybe once every few days).  I bought a new set of RAM, and no bluescreens since.  I purchased 8GB of RAM for about $42, so it's not really useful to use old RAM

WGH

Re: Recommend a motherboard
« Reply #19 on: 16 Feb 2012, 08:45 pm »
The 8GB of DDR3 ram for the AMD computer cost $39.99 with free shipping.

The OP wrote in his first post he was looking for a motherboard and processor combination. I guess if money is tight using the existing ram would look like the logical thing to do. I get the impression he wants to use his existing processor too. I guess he is OK building a 4 year old computer because that is when his existing motherboard first came out.

Another item to consider when building a 4 year old computer is the longevity of the motherboard caps, that is why I buy new instead of looking for an outdated motherboard. Bad capacitors have the same symptoms as memory with the wrong timing but are harder to track down .

Read up on the great capacitor plague: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague

Any new old stock or used board could eventually have this problem.

How to tell if your motherboard is going bad after it has worked perfectly for a long time:
Sometimes it won't boot
Unexpected re-boots
Hard usage causes freezes or blue screen

The problem is hard to diagnose because at first looks like a software or driver problem. Then if you do a stress test and it fails you think you have bad memory. A close look using a flashlight will (maybe) reveal the real problem.

The latest ASUS boards have a new and hopefully longer lasting sealed capacitor design.