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Pez

D800
« on: 7 Feb 2012, 04:08 pm »
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You're welcome JohnR!  :icon_lol:

36 megapixel sensor. wow.



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Thirty-six megapixels. That's the native resolution of Nikon's long-awaited FX-format digital SLR. The D800 was designed with all professional photographers in mind, but with 36.3-megapixel captures (yes, that also means 36.3 megapixels in RAW, or 15.4 in DX format), the Japanese camera maker's latest DSLR output is likely to far exceed the needs of many. It also limits low-light shooting capabilities -- the D800 is a full-frame camera, but even so, with a standard sensor capturing 36.3 megapixels, its high-ISO performance is unlikely to match the likes of the D4, or Canon's new 1D X. It's for this reason that Nikon limited the camera's top native sensitivity to ISO 6400, or 25,600 in Hi2 extended mode. Want to see more? Thumb through the gallery below and jump past the break for a closer look at the latest full-frame DSLR to hit the market.
Nikon D800






As you might expect, the D800 adopts many new features from the D4, while maintaining a smaller D700-like footprint. You get the same Advanced Scene Recognition System with 91k-pixel 3D Color Matrix Metering III, 1080/30p HD video with 20 adjustable audio levels and uncompressed HDMI output, in-camera two-consecutive-shot HDR and Active D-Lighting. In addition to the difference in resolution (remember, more megapixels doesn't necessarily translate to better quality images), you also lose the D4's 2.7x crop mode, which effectively multiplies your focal length by 2.7, bringing you closer to your subject without the need to a longer lens or teleconverter.

Significantly smaller than the monstrous D4, the D800 isn't the most compact full-frame DSLR that Nikon's released to date. It's noticeably taller than the D700 (by roughly half an inch), with a higher pentaprism and smooth appearance. But a new body design isn't the only element differentiating the D800 from its predecessor. The camera offers excellent contrast-detection autofocus, allowing you to sharpen your subjects much more quickly while in live view. The D800 also offers video improvements, and lets you capture 29 minutes and 59 seconds in a single clip in normal quality mode. Because of the DSLR's larger footprint, you'll need to upgrade your grip along with the camera -- the MB-D12 attachment uses the same battery as the D4, and boosts the camera's burst mode from four frames per second to six in DX mode.

And what about price? The basic D800 will run you just shy of $3,000 -- without a lens, of course. Nikon is also offering a second version, called the D800E, that is expected to retail for $3,300. This model captures slighter finer detail and "enhanced" resolution by removing the low-pass filter. Without the low-pass filter, you're likely to notice moire, though a new setting in the Nikon Capture NX2 software will enable you to compensate without losing sharpness. We took a look at side-by-side images captured by the D800 and D800E, but weren't able to differentiate between the low-resolution samples. Nikon reps explained that the differences can be incredibly subtle, and are most distinguishable when capturing fine details, such as individual hairs in an uncompressed D800E image. If the mainstream version will suffice, you can pick up the D800 when it hits stores in late March, while the specialty "E" model will ship a few weeks later in mid-April.

Sharif Sakr and James Trew contributed to this report.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/06/nikon-d800-hands-on/


PeteG

Re: D800
« Reply #1 on: 7 Feb 2012, 05:24 pm »
I see it’s up for pre-order, very nice. I'm too invested in Canon glass to jump, have to wait and see how the new 5DIII fairs.

I did not know the new D800 could do this, WOW.
 
 "Nikon users who have invested in DX-format lenses will be able to use them on the D800 by using the 15.4MP resolution setting. In this setting, only the pixels that cover a DX-sized portion of the sensor will be active, giving the camera a 1.5x crop"
 
http://www.adorama.com/ALC/News.aspx?alias=New-Product-News-Feb-7-2012&utm_source=ET&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=Email020712Nikon

Pez

Re: D800
« Reply #2 on: 7 Feb 2012, 06:46 pm »
Now THAT is useful! Very smart feature to allow people who are stepping up from the D300 or any DX lens system camera!

Sigh.. Someday.

low.pfile

Re: D800
« Reply #3 on: 8 Feb 2012, 02:31 am »
just for fun....

short video made with 10 D800s, promo vid by Nikon, $ .5M budget.

bike: BMW S1000 RR
rider: mark miller (isle of man tt)

http://vimeo.com/36305675

JohnR

Re: D800
« Reply #4 on: 8 Feb 2012, 02:33 am »
Finally. Looks like it was worth the wait.

Dpreview: http://www.dpreview.com/previews/nikond800/

low.pfile

Re: D800
« Reply #5 on: 8 Feb 2012, 02:40 am »
Finally. Looks like it was worth the wait.

Dpreview: http://www.dpreview.com/previews/nikond800/

enjoy John, I'm sure you'll do it justice.

it makes 75MB RAW files, so stock-up on some huge HDDs and some mega cards!!  (my D700 RAWs are about 20+MB)


Jon L

Re: D800
« Reply #6 on: 8 Feb 2012, 04:40 am »
If only it were more like 22-24 MP at most...and compatible with Canon L lenses  :green:

JohnR

Re: D800
« Reply #7 on: 8 Feb 2012, 05:18 am »
Why 22-24 at most? This is the last camera you will ever need to buy! (short of one with movements)

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Re: D800
« Reply #8 on: 8 Feb 2012, 05:38 am »
Definitely worth the wait!
Nikon is going to sell a lot of these. I still love my D3s and the cost to move to a 75 MB files and this guy would cause me to have to update my old iMac as well.  :duh: So add $2k to the price tag to  technology refresh!

Jon L

Re: D800
« Reply #9 on: 8 Feb 2012, 08:29 pm »
Why 22-24 at most? This is the last camera you will ever need to buy! (short of one with movements)

D800 RAW files will be around 75 MB.  The last thing I want is to come home from a shoot, wedding, etc with 100+ Gigs of photos, with the worse part having to feed the ginormous files through mortal computers and processors while trying to post-process the huge files in Photoshop  :cry:

Early B.

Re: D800
« Reply #10 on: 8 Feb 2012, 09:26 pm »
D800 RAW files will be around 75 MB.  The last thing I want is to come home from a shoot, wedding, etc with 100+ Gigs of photos, with the worse part having to feed the ginormous files through mortal computers and processors while trying to post-process the huge files in Photoshop  :cry:

You're right. The RAW file sizes of the D800 may cause photographers to re-think the number of shots they take and their workflow. You'll need to invest in a few 64MB cards for the D800, and Sandisk Extreme Pro 64GB SD cards are about $200 each. Ouch!


JohnR

Re: D800
« Reply #11 on: 8 Feb 2012, 10:37 pm »
Heh, just think how many rolls of film that would be  :D

Still, 75, or 45 - I don't see it's going to make that all much difference. And, Moore's law is on your side.

SET Man

Re: D800
« Reply #12 on: 9 Feb 2012, 12:47 am »
Definitely worth the wait!
Nikon is going to sell a lot of these. I still love my D3s and the cost to move to a 75 MB files and this guy would cause me to have to update my old iMac as well.  :duh: So add $2k to the price tag to  technology refresh!

Hey!

    That is so true that you have to factor in some money for post processing part of which is computer to process all the shots. Many people forget this part I think.

    My good old computer is on it last leg and I will need to get a new computer if I ever going to get a new DSLR  :roll:

Heh, just think how many rolls of film that would be  :D

Still, 75, or 45 - I don't see it's going to make that all much difference. And, Moore's law is on your side.

    I agreed with you on that one. Remember the day when a 1GB CF card cost $100? Well, that wasn't really long ago..... that was around 2005 or 2006.

   True that some people will need to upgrade their computer for this higher res DSLR... that's including me right now but new mid level computer should have no problem handling this.

If only it were more like 22-24 MP at most...and compatible with Canon L lenses  :green:


    Well, with this D800 I'm sure there will be lots of people jumping brand :lol: Yeah, there are people like that, like to get the newest thing out.

    But! I will say hold on to your hat and those Canon L lenses I'm pretty sure there will be new Canon out soon to compete with this D800 soon :D

    BTW.... I can see the day of FF DSLR with 50MP in couple of years from now.

Take care,
Buddy :thumb:

Jon L

Re: D800
« Reply #13 on: 9 Feb 2012, 02:19 am »
Actually, the more I shoot, the more I wish for smaller, lighter, portable camera system.  A full-frame-sensor, mirrorless body that's the size of say Sony NEX-7 but with in-body image stabilization, enabling smaller lenses than NEX. 

It seems obvious by now Canon and Nikon have no intention of making something like that, but I hold out hope for Fuji and maybe even Sony  :)

Russell Dawkins

Re: D800
« Reply #14 on: 9 Feb 2012, 02:54 am »
I think Fuji's the one to watch at this moment.
The Olympus OM-D E-M5 looks promising, too.

If money's no object, there's the Leica M9  :o

navi

Re: D800
« Reply #15 on: 9 Feb 2012, 09:49 pm »
the 800e is the one i'm really interested in seeing files from because of the removal of the anti alias filter (one of the reason med format files look way sharper)

there is only so many pixels on a tiny sensor that the 35mm DSLR can reproduce. a techie told me its around 24mp - it has to do with pixel micron size.

JohnR

Re: D800
« Reply #16 on: 9 Feb 2012, 10:14 pm »
Hi Navi, you are saying that 35MP has no more "real" resolution than a 24MP? Interesting.

I found it odd that the no-filter version costs more. You would think it would cost less. Or perhaps it's just to do with manufacturing/production quantities. Any thoughts on that one?

Hopefully Nikon AU will price these locally in accordance with the current exchange rate  :green:

navi

Re: D800
« Reply #17 on: 10 Feb 2012, 12:05 am »
Hi Navi, you are saying that 35MP has no more "real" resolution than a 24MP? Interesting.

I found it odd that the no-filter version costs more. You would think it would cost less. Or perhaps it's just to do with manufacturing/production quantities. Any thoughts on that one?

Hopefully Nikon AU will price these locally in accordance with the current exchange rate  :green:

the filter free version will give you better image quality. people will pay more for it. the chance of getting Moire is high and the moire correction filters in RAW processing is shit.

I'm saying you won't get the full potential of 36mp on a 35mmDSLR - but you will get the file size.


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Re: D800
« Reply #18 on: 11 Feb 2012, 03:00 am »
the filter free version will give you better image quality. people will pay more for it. the chance of getting Moire is high and the moire correction filters in RAW processing is shit.

I'm saying you won't get the full potential of 36mp on a 35mmDSLR - but you will get the file size.
Yep...here's a great sample though.  A very BIG file...but check out the detail.

http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Nikon-D800e-Sample-Landscape-Image-courtesy-of-Nikon-USA.jpg

PeteG

Re: D800
« Reply #19 on: 11 Feb 2012, 04:07 pm »
Lightroom 4 and an updated Capture NX2 will have moiré removel to deal with D800E files, don’t know how good they will be with a real bad moiré pattern.

http://mansurovs.com/nikon-d800-vs-d800e