[edmondwolfman]

Ok that opens another question....if OP is going to run a quality sub or two..why not throw HT1's in the mix? Would that be better SQ than the ST's or maybe even the HT2-TL's at a price point closer to the ST's?

It appears that the HT1s would require a stand of some sort. Are stands available from Salk or are there any recommendations. And I too was looking at the HT1s just last night and wondering the same thing, how do they compare to the SongTowers

[srb]

That's definitely an option for those who don't have the space for towers.

I hear that a lot, or "I'm selling these floorstanders because I'm moving into a smaller place and buying monitors".   (Not because of sound, but because of space)
 
I've never quite understood that, as most people who buy monitors put them on stands, rather than in bookshelves or cabinets.  The footprint is similar + or - a few inches.
 
Steve

[adydula]

$1500.

Thats the concern?

If you have the room and can afford them, then I would get them!!! aa

I have a pair of SongTowers (Dome) and never once have regretted the purchase.

I am not a proponent of adding a sub, and trying to get it integrated into the system.

One perspective is $1500 would almost buy you a second set of SongTowers !!!

You wont go wrong with either one. The comments of all the posters are spot on...

Good luck with your decision!!

Alex

[earthbound]

I am not a proponent of adding a sub, and trying to get it integrated into the system.

Me too. I have an old 12 inch sub that I will only use for home theater when I get my HT2-TLs. Others, however, will point out the benefits of off-loading bass to a sub so it can be placed at an optimal position without affecting the sweet spot.

[fsimms]

And I too was looking at the HT1s just last night and wondering the same thing, how do they compare to the SongTowers

There is a thread that had that comparison.  I have already given most of my opinion about them, but there might be a bit more info here.


http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=44172.0

Bob

[Nuance]

I am not a proponent of adding a sub, and trying to get it integrated into the system.

One perspective is $1500 would almost buy you a second set of SongTowers !!!

It's actually easier to get a flat in-room FR by integrating a subwoofer than it is doing with a pair of towers.  As the old saying goes, the best in-room positioning for great imaging and a wide sound stage is hardly ever the best place for in-room bass response.  Using a suwboofer makes things a lot simpler, takes some of the load off your amps and allows you to EQ only the sub if necessary (below the Schroeder frequency).  Of course, if I had HT2's, HT3's or HT4's using a subwoofer may be useless...well, depending on what the in-room bass response is.  If I had huge dips or peaks I'd use a subwoofer, even if I had the latter mentioned speakers.  YMMV, of course.  I just wanted to play Devil's Advocate. 

I am not a proponent of adding a sub, and trying to get it integrated into the system.

Others, however, will point out the benefits of off-loading bass to a sub so it can be placed at an optimal position without affecting the sweet spot.

Guess that would be me. 

[Nuance]

And I too was looking at the HT1s just last night and wondering the same thing, how do they compare to the SongTowers

There is a thread that had that comparison.  I have already given most of my opinion about them, but there might be a bit more info here.


http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=44172.0

Bob

That was a fantastic comparo, by the way.  I wonder if the gap would close between the HT1's and the SongTower RT's as far as HF accuracy and complete transparency goes?  I need to hear the rest of the Veracity series (only heard the HT2 TL's)!

[edmondwolfman]

And I too was looking at the HT1s just last night and wondering the same thing, how do they compare to the SongTowers

There is a thread that had that comparison.  I have already given most of my opinion about them, but there might be a bit more info here.


http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=44172.0

Bob

That was a fantastic comparo, by the way.  I wonder if the gap would close between the HT1's and the SongTower RT's as far as HF accuracy and complete transparency goes?  I need to hear the rest of the Veracity series (only heard the HT2 TL's)!

Ditto!

I'm getting overload, TMI and I didn't want to start a new thread as this will somewhat follow the original.

After inquiring about the ST and the HT2 TLs I've been looking at the other lines.

For the first time I noticed the Veracity QW. How does this one compare to the ST and HT2 TLs. It isn't in the MTM configuration, just a single mid and a ribbon tweeter and has very good reviews although it may be an older model.

Also the V3 which is a 3 way design.

I was confused before while just contemplating the ST and HT2-TLs. Then I started looking at the HT2 non TL as I use a sub if needed and now these others I just mentioned. I'm scratching my head so much I'm starting to lose hair, well maybe it wasn't the scratching that started my hair falling out

[oneinthepipe]

I thought about the Veracity QW before I purchased the ST RT, because I need a TL design, but the ST RT seemed like a better speaker for me.  Then, when I learned about the HT2-TL, the Veracity QW seemed less attractive, price wise, especially since I purchased the HT2-TL when they were still in pre-production, and the price was a little less.  If I could use a ported design, the V3 would have been very attractive, in part, because of their comparatively low price.  I have never heard the V3, but BRM owned them and liked them, and BRM knows audio.

Regarding a sub, would you still want a sub with a speaker with an F3 of 32hz?  I just have a two-channel system, and I have never owned a sub, but I don't think that I would use a sub unless I really had no other choice because I have often heard that integrating a sub into a system can be very difficult and many systems that I have heard with subs, which might not have been set up properly, did not sound very good.  I didn't use a sub when my main speakers were Spendor S3/5, which have an F3 of 90hz.

[edmondwolfman]

I thought about the Veracity QW before I purchased the ST RT, because I need a TL design, but the ST RT seemed like a better speaker for me.  Then, when I learned about the HT2-TL, the Veracity QW seemed less attractive, price wise, especially since I purchased the HT2-TL when they were still in pre-production, and the price was a little less.  If I could use a ported design, the V3 would have been very attractive, in part, because of their comparatively low price.  I have never heard the V3, but BRM owned them and liked them, and BRM knows audio.

Regarding a sub, would you still want a sub with a speaker with an F3 of 32hz?  I just have a two-channel system, and I have never owned a sub, but I don't think that I would use a sub unless I really had no other choice because I have often heard that integrating a sub into a system can be very difficult and many systems that I have heard with subs, which might not have been set up properly, did not sound very good.  I didn't use a sub when my main speakers were Spendor S3/5, which have an F3 of 90hz.

My Axioms say they are good down to Freq Resp +/-3dB (Hz): 37 - 22kHz Graph and Freq Resp +3dB- 9dB (Hz): 27 - 22kHz but when I play Bela Fleck and the Flecktones - Flight of the Cosmic Hippo my system sounds quite a bit better using my HSU ULS-15 than just a FL FR configuration. If your sub is integrated properly you don't really know the deep bass is coming from a sub, you just hear (and feel) it.