[Wallacefl]

I have heard the Sanders,  the CLX, and own a pair of CLS...they are all excellent. As to the hybrids I have heard the ML Spire and IMHO the panel/woofer integration is darn good....so much improved over the SL-3s I used to have. It is the nature of these speakers to be very focused and point sink so to speak contrary to the point source that gives a much broader listening window.. to each his own...

[jimdgoulding]

Can anyone that has heard Sound Labs compare the sound to the Sanders?

I have not heard them side by side, but if memory serves, I liked the cohesiveness of the Sound Labs w/o a dynamic woofer and they sounded warmer with more saturation of imagery.  Can't recall which model, but it wasn't the large one.  I've heard the Sanders at a friend's house on two occasions.  Think I prefer the Labs, but could easily understand someone preferring the Sanders.

[J-Pak]

laughable really.........considering the vast improvements made in the past 5-7 years with respect to electrostatic panel mfg (far more consistent stretching of Mylar film between stators, thanks to new mfg process). I love the CLS, a classic for sure but to say the newer panels don't have as realistic a timbre is pure nonsense.

Nope, just what I heard and I stand by my opinion. It's your opinion that they are good, and that's fine.

Give me Sound Labs with PX panels or ESL63 any day.

I look forward to hearing the Sanders at this years RMAF. Roger seems like a gentleman, and answers technical questions in great detail on another board.

[bpape]

Have not heard the Sanders but for the ML's with a dynamic woofer, I had the same experience multiple times in different setups. The dynamic woofers just never blended well or kept up speed wise with the ES panels.  I run full range 'stats too and to me, that's one of their big benefits - basically a single driver with no xover and panel bass is half of the allure.  Very quick, dynamic, smooth, etc - nothing like a box woofer.

Just my 2 cents

[steve in jersey]

I'm late to this thread ! Are these a model of Sound Lab speakers (Roger's company, right or was?) or is this no longer his company ? Sorry for the interruption ,just curious !

[SteveFord]

http://www.sanderssoundsystems.com/

http://www.soundlab-speakers.com/#

Different manufacturers, different people.

[Jazzman53]

Have not heard the Sanders but for the ML's with a dynamic woofer, I had the same experience multiple times in different setups. The dynamic woofers just never blended well or kept up speed wise with the ES panels.  I run full range 'stats too and to me, that's one of their big benefits - basically a single driver with no xover and panel bass is half of the allure.  Very quick, dynamic, smooth, etc - nothing like a box woofer.

Just my 2 cents

I'll add my 2 cents too:
The only full range stats I've heard are the old Quad 57's, which I think would not provide me with a good reference for evaluating ESL bass. 
I have heard the ML Arius and the older model Summits and neither of them achieved a seamless blending between the woofer and electrostat in my view.  I haven't heard Roger Sanders' Eros speakers but after reading his white paper on the subject, it makes sense to me that his use of an ultra-low Q woofer in a transmission line would yield better blending than the ML's.   As compared to the ML's I've heard, my own homebuilt hybrids, which use a high-quality woofer in a transmission line like the Sanders speakers, do have better bass tone and a rather unnoticeable blending with the stat panels, at their focal sweet spot. 

(When describing the sound of a flat-panel ESL, one should always add the caveat "at the focal sweet spot")       

[catastrofe]

Have not heard the Sanders but for the ML's with a dynamic woofer, I had the same experience multiple times in different setups. The dynamic woofers just never blended well or kept up speed wise with the ES panels.  I run full range 'stats too and to me, that's one of their big benefits - basically a single driver with no xover and panel bass is half of the allure.  Very quick, dynamic, smooth, etc - nothing like a box woofer.

Just my 2 cents

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