Solid Reasons Why You Should Convert Your Music To 432 Hz

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WGH

Re: Solid Reasons Why You Should Convert Your Music To 432 Hz
« Reply #40 on: 4 Feb 2014, 03:23 am »
More solid reasons why 432 is mystical:

The amount of hours a person sleeps in 54 days - 432
The square root of 186624 - 432
Number of steps around the Great Pyramid - 432
Average number of eyebrow hairs on a Yak - 432
Total number of cleats in Seattle Seahawk's shoes - 432
Number of times this thread has been read - 432
Revolutions it takes to play LP version of Freebird by Lynyrd Skynyrd (Live 2003)

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JohnR

Re: Solid Reasons Why You Should Convert Your Music To 432 Hz
« Reply #41 on: 4 Feb 2014, 06:03 am »
WGH, very funny :)

Step back and asking yourself...why would 432hz make any more sense than 440hz?  One would have to do a pretty rigorous study of vocal chords across the world to determine of either one of these was more natural than another.  Why would the best frequency even be an integer?  Why wouldn't it some irrational number?

Well, yes, and why not a prime??? Not to mention that Hertz is defined in terms of seconds, and that is completely arbitrary. So I guess one way to convert all your music to 432 Hz would be to simply reprogram all your clocks to have 61 seconds in a minute. Then all your music will be tuned to 432 Hz...  (or close, 432.786885-something, is that irrational?)


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Re: Solid Reasons Why You Should Convert Your Music To 432 Hz
« Reply #42 on: 4 Feb 2014, 06:09 am »
One has to wonder how many posters are residents of Colorado or Washington.. :D

apollophono

Re: Solid Reasons Why You Should Convert Your Music To 432 Hz
« Reply #43 on: 4 Feb 2014, 10:02 am »
WGH...you had me on everything but the number of times the post has been
read...1143  :rotflmao:  I fact checked that.  If you are reading this make that
1144  :lol: 

1Zip... You are on to something.  It's probably 432 posters that live in
Washington and Colorado. 

Now everybody repeat after me.  Ooooommmmm

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Re: Solid Reasons Why You Should Convert Your Music To 432 Hz
« Reply #44 on: 4 Feb 2014, 05:26 pm »
Colorado and Washington residents want to have the new standard be 420Hz.

sts9fan

Re: Solid Reasons Why You Should Convert Your Music To 432 Hz
« Reply #45 on: 4 Feb 2014, 05:49 pm »
I KNOW the 420hz will make it sound better :thumb:

tommus

Re: Solid Reasons Why You Should Convert Your Music To 432 Hz
« Reply #46 on: 4 Feb 2014, 07:22 pm »
I can believe that any instrument (that uses tension to adjust pitch) tuned slightly lower can sound "nicer" simply because the instrument is less strained mechanically, and the overtones (which are never perfectly intoned due to the instruments construction) will be lower in volume.  One reason why concert pitch was standardized in the first place was pitch inflation: musicians would tune slightly sharp to sound brighter and more exciting than their rivals.  Soon singers were complaining that their voices were being forced out of their natural range...

The negative effects that the 432hz proponents ascribe to the 440hz standard actually do exist, but the cause is not the absolute pitch but the relative size of the intervals...  Equal temperament is a compromise to allow concert instruments to play in any key without retuning.  Notice the frets on a guitar are positioned at equal proportions.  Mathematically, the fractional pure tone values do not fit into these proportions, so the result is that many harmonics are, by design, out of tune by tiny amounts, even assuming the instruments are mechanically "in tune."  Composers and musicians know about these "wolf intervals" and avoid the worst of them, but they are always present in an equally tempered environment.  However, musicians who play un-fretted instruments often learn to play with true intonation as much as possible, but on a piano for instance this is not possible...   An alternative is to have moveable frets like a sitar, re-tuned every time a new key is played. 

The constant low-level dissonance of equal temperament can have an invigorating effect on the mind and body, but it can also create stress and fatigue.  Listen to a performance with justly intoned instruments, that is, tuned to the perfect harmonics, and you will feel the difference.  The effect is more calming and even trance inducing. 

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Re: Solid Reasons Why You Should Convert Your Music To 432 Hz
« Reply #47 on: 4 Feb 2014, 07:23 pm »
Notes and Frequency based off of A 440:

Note        Freq
      
A      440
A b      421.6666667
G      403.3333333
G b      385
F      366.6666667
E      348.3333333
E b      330
D      311.6666667
D b      293.3333333
C      275
B      256.6666667
B b      238.3333333
A      220
A b      210.8333333
G      201.6666667
G b      192.5
F      183.3333333
E      174.1666667
E b      165
D      155.8333333
D b      146.6666667
C      137.5
B      128.3333333
B b      119.1666667
A              110

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Russell Dawkins

Re: Solid Reasons Why You Should Convert Your Music To 432 Hz
« Reply #48 on: 4 Feb 2014, 08:45 pm »
a few (nearly complete) lists of orchestras of Europe and the rest of the world and their tuning frequencies:
http://www.nistl.com/europa%20at%20-%20dk.htm
http://www.nistl.com/europa%20es%20-%20sk.htm
http://www.nistl.com/rest%20welt.htm

Note: there are three in the first two lists who tune to 430 Hz.

One factor that would prevent any modern orchestra from tuning to 432 Hz on an experimental basis is the oboe's limitations. It is the least tunable instrument, discounting xylophones and the like, and its adjustment range is limited roughly to 436 - 444 Hz, one of the reasons the orchestra tunes to it.

HsvHeelFan

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Re: Solid Reasons Why You Should Convert Your Music To 432 Hz
« Reply #49 on: 4 Feb 2014, 09:51 pm »
Our orchestra tunes to 440 Hz.

If it goes much higher, I'll have to get my main tuning slide section shortened, which I'd rather not do.

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rmurray

Re: Solid Reasons Why You Should Convert Your Music To 432 Hz
« Reply #50 on: 5 Feb 2014, 12:55 am »
 Man this is getting fucking old. Are there no topics left  :scratch:

PRELUDE

Re: Solid Reasons Why You Should Convert Your Music To 432 Hz
« Reply #51 on: 5 Feb 2014, 01:12 am »
Man this is getting fucking old. Are there no topics left  :scratch:
Sure, You might like this one as well. :thumb: :green:
http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=111759.0

Folsom

Re: Solid Reasons Why You Should Convert Your Music To 432 Hz
« Reply #52 on: 5 Feb 2014, 01:15 am »
Did anyone try that program adjustment to see what happens? Will it be wrong? Probably but what happens anyway?

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« Reply #53 on: 5 Feb 2014, 10:33 pm »
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