Want to build OB with Lii Audio F15

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renaudrenaud

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Want to build OB with Lii Audio F15
« on: 18 Apr 2023, 02:22 am »
Hello,

With my wife me moved in China in July 2022. We arrived with some little boxes and a pair of very neutral near field active studio monitors.

But now, I want some fun and try to build something. I don't want another regular box I used to listen the last 40 years...

Musing around here and there and looking for something different, I finally found some Open Baffle designs, with Chinese speakers. I found Lii Audio was providing components for Decware and here in China the cost for the speakers is cheaper than in Europe or USA.

For example I found the the 2022 Fast F-15 for around 120€ / 130$ on taobao, from the original shop

I was unable to find the old F15 from the shop, juste the new model is available.



Seller measurements:



Do you think this speaker is ok for a fun OB project?

Also, do you know were I can found some plans?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Want to build OB with Lii Audio F15
« Reply #1 on: 18 Apr 2023, 02:51 pm »
Do you have woodworking tools and a shop at your disposal? have you cut large circles before with a router & done glue-ups? if so, there are a bunch of fairly simple plans online or you can just experiment with some low-cost materials to test listen the results of different configurations before deciding on making yourself some (open baffles I suggest) for the F-15s in really pretty wood and finish them up nicely (that's what I did).

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Re: Want to build OB with Lii Audio F15
« Reply #2 on: 18 Apr 2023, 10:11 pm »

This F15 chart is not the same sold by the Lii Audio.
It say F15 not Fast15.  :scratch:

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Re: Want to build OB with Lii Audio F15
« Reply #4 on: 18 Apr 2023, 11:34 pm »

This F15 chart is not the same sold by the Lii Audio.
It say F15 not Fast15.  :scratch:

I cannot find the F15 used by everybody in the official shop on taobao. For me, the one available is the "new" version, FAST-15 or F15 is the same thing. Well, not sure, but it is what I think.

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Re: Want to build OB with Lii Audio F15
« Reply #5 on: 19 Apr 2023, 12:02 am »
I cannot find the F15 used by everybody in the official shop on taobao. For me, the one available is the "new" version, FAST-15 or F15 is the same thing. Well, not sure, but it is what I think.
F15 and FAST15 are not the same driver and TS pars, and price not the same.
Forget Taobao, you can buy at Lii Audio site, still $399 pair.
https://www.lii-audio.com/product/recommended-15-full-range-speaker-driver-for-music-loudspeaker-with-tube-amplifier-f-15-in-pair/
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Re: Want to build OB with Lii Audio F15
« Reply #6 on: 19 Apr 2023, 04:12 am »
F15 and FAST15 are not the same driver and TS pars, and price not the same.
Forget Taobao, you can buy at Lii Audio site, still $399 pair.
https://www.lii-audio.com/product/recommended-15-full-range-speaker-driver-for-music-loudspeaker-with-tube-amplifier-f-15-in-pair/

I have send them a mail. It's easier for me to buy on taboao instead of their website, I can pay with my Chinese account in yuans.

There is a translation in english for the one on taobao:



Also, about this plan:
https://www.lii-audio.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/F-18-design-english.jpg

Is it working with the F18 18 inches or is it also ok for the F15?

Thanks!

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Re: Want to build OB with Lii Audio F15
« Reply #7 on: 19 Apr 2023, 05:41 am »
I have send them a mail. It's easier for me to buy on taboao instead of their website, I can pay with my Chinese account in yuans.

There is a translation in english for the one on taobao:



Also, about this plan:
https://www.lii-audio.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/F-18-design-english.jpg

Is it working with the F18 18 inches or is it also ok for the F15?

Thanks!
I will say again, this your TaoBao FR is not the Lii Audio FAST15 and neither the F15, the $128usd price is too low and it is a totally different driver.

This is the Lii Audio F15:
https://www.lii-audio.com/product/recommended-15-full-range-speaker-driver-for-music-loudspeaker-with-tube-amplifier-f-15-in-pair/


This is the Lii Audio FAST15 as the Qts = 0.528 is too low, this driver dont works for OB it will need a box.
https://www.lii-audio.com/product/one-pair-15-inch-full-range-speakers-optimized-detail-frequency-response-and-soundstage-fast-15/

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Re: Want to build OB with Lii Audio F15
« Reply #8 on: 19 Apr 2023, 05:46 am »
I will say again, this your TaoBao FR is not the Lii Audio FAST15 and neither the F15, the price is too low and it is a totally different driver.

This is the Lii Audio F15:
https://www.lii-audio.com/product/recommended-15-full-range-speaker-driver-for-music-loudspeaker-with-tube-amplifier-f-15-in-pair/


This is the Lii Audio FAST15 as the Qts = 0.528 is too low, this driver dont works for OB it will need a box.
https://www.lii-audio.com/product/one-pair-15-inch-full-range-speakers-optimized-detail-frequency-response-and-soundstage-fast-15/

Yes, undertood!

The fac is I am in China and I want to use taobao.

I send them a mail and they answered with the good link for the speaker in the app:

https://m.tb.cn/h.UGLZy6N?tk=mrJFdlwHDrZ



Thanks for your help!









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Re: Want to build OB with Lii Audio F15
« Reply #9 on: 19 Apr 2023, 06:10 am »
Yes, undertood!

The fac is I am in China and I want to use taobao.

I send them a mail and they answered with the good link for the speaker in the app:

https://m.tb.cn/h.UGLZy6N?tk=mrJFdlwHDrZ



Thanks for your help!
This is the Lii Audio FAST15 again, I have just told you the FAST15 dont works for OB, it need a BOX, the Qts is too low. You need the Lii Audio F15 Qts 0.71.
https://www.lii-audio.com/product/recommended-15-full-range-speaker-driver-for-music-loudspeaker-with-tube-amplifier-f-15-in-pair/

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Re: Want to build OB with Lii Audio F15
« Reply #10 on: 19 Apr 2023, 08:31 am »
This is the Lii Audio FAST15 again, I have just told you the FAST15 dont works for OB, it need a BOX, the Qts is too low. You need the Lii Audio F15 Qts 0.71.
https://www.lii-audio.com/product/recommended-15-full-range-speaker-driver-for-music-loudspeaker-with-tube-amplifier-f-15-in-pair/

ARGHAAAA!

It was close!


It's Lii Audio that send me the link to toabao... I have to ask the correct link...

I am feeling sooo stupid.




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Re: Want to build OB with Lii Audio F15
« Reply #11 on: 19 Apr 2023, 09:58 pm »
If you like bass probably will want use 2 subs to boost the low freq.

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Re: Want to build OB with Lii Audio F15
« Reply #12 on: 20 Apr 2023, 05:48 am »
If you like bass probably will want use 2 subs to boost the low freq.

I would like, but we currently are in China and we will move again (and again) in short / medium term, so I have to wait until I retire.

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Re: Want to build OB with Lii Audio F15
« Reply #13 on: 21 Apr 2023, 05:59 am »
Ha, I have the choice between F15 and new FAST-15 for +/- 150USD.

What do you think about the difference between the 2 sepakers?

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Re: Want to build OB with Lii Audio F15
« Reply #14 on: 21 Apr 2023, 06:13 am »
Ha, I have the choice between F15 and new FAST-15 for +/- 150USD.

What do you think about the difference between the 2 sepakers?
Bro this is the third time I will tell you, the FAST-15 is not recommended for OB because the Qts is too low (0.528) it need a very huge box as Vas is 366 liters.

The F15 Qts 0.71 already not hi, it could be higher as 0.9 but
the F15 is used for OB with apparently success by audiophiles.

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Re: Want to build OB with Lii Audio F15
« Reply #15 on: 21 Apr 2023, 06:18 am »
Bro this is the third time I will tell you, the FAST-15 is not recommended for OB because the Qts is too low (0.528) it need a very huge box as Vas is 366 liters.

The F15 Qts 0.71 already not hi, it could be higher as 0.9 but
the F15 is used for OB with apparently success by audiophiles.

Ok, so I am unable to understand why Lii Audio give me the choice of the wood panel and the F15 OR the FAST-15, is it because 2022 FAST15 is QTS: 0.99?

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Re: Want to build OB with Lii Audio F15
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Re: Want to build OB with Lii Audio F15
« Reply #17 on: 21 Apr 2023, 06:37 am »
Ok, so I am unable to understand why Lii Audio give me the choice of the wood panel and the F15 OR the FAST-15, is it because 2022 FAST15 is QTS: 0.99?
The Lii Audio site show now Qts 0.528
I only know what is on the Lii Audio site.
I dont have the TaoBao link.
Could be useful if you could ask they why Lii Audio site show Qts=0.528 and if they will change this info.
https://www.lii-audio.com/product/one-pair-15-inch-full-range-speakers-optimized-detail-frequency-response-and-soundstage-fast-15/
Technical data:
Nominal impedance Z: 8 Ohms
Power:40-80W
Frequency response:fo-18khz
Fs: 36.5 Hz
Sd: 245.703 cm³
Qms: 7.583
Qes: 0.324
Qts: 0.528
Magnet:Y47
Mean Sound Pressure Level: 97.1dB (2.83V/1m)
Weight: 12 KG
Package dimension: 46*52*52 cm
Paper Cone Material: Compound Pulp

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Re: Want to build OB with Lii Audio F15
« Reply #18 on: 21 Apr 2023, 11:25 am »
Done, I asked few minutes ago.

Time will tell, 1000$ for F15 or 1200$ for FAST15 (finished, complete, with shipping).

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Re: Want to build OB with Lii Audio F15
« Reply #19 on: 21 Apr 2023, 02:11 pm »
Their answer