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Solid State circuits are great for digital audio gears, image gears, car audio, computers, cells phones, washing machines, etc...To amplify music tubes have the best sound, have sweet harmonics, large soundstage and better musicality than Transzistorrs...There is a old adagio about this: Transistor makes sense, tubes makes music.I can not view why a sane person will prefer use a SS music amp, unless he is a Pro-Audio worker and by this have hard ears and a opinion lead to favor the SS studio amp brands of his beloved work.As Iam not radical, in last case I can accept a SS amp, since it is Class A output, because without alot of heat there is no sound quality.Sincerely, FullP.S.: Sorry Class AB fans.
Hi Rydenfan,I agree with doug s. in that you should feel free to state a brand of SS pre you liked over any tube based unit you have heard. I'm curious myself as I run a McCormack ALD-1 that has Rev A+ mods done to it and it absolutely smokes my Quicksilver tube preamp. The OP (TCG) has stated his own experiences mixing SS and tubes and called for opinions.And speaking of opinions let's keep in mind that that is what they are. FULLRANGEMAN is just stating his, doesn't make him right and doesn't make him wrong, just heavily biased (like the better SS amps I have heard ).This has certainly been an entertaining and civil thread thus far, keep up the good work!Thanks,JakeJ
But with all this hi prices this brands can not beat a transparency and stage of a AtmaSphere OTL ( only 6500 dollars for a M60mk3 mono pair 60w).
The problem with SS amp is they are obsoleted very fast by a new transistor device every 6 month, a new topology in afew years ( the PASS XA line last 5 years and are superexceded by the new .5 line). The tube gear no have this problem, the 2A3 tube is from 1930 years and are blowing hard in the Fi amps today.
chair-guy/john, you might be interested in searching out a used melos ma333 or 333r to audition - these are dual mono, w/two toroids in a separate cabinet; w/two separate umbilical cords going back to the main chassis. two separate power switches to turn on each channel. that said, even the single-toroid one-box melos sha-gold-r is stil a fine sounding thing in its own right...doug s.
QuoteThe problem with SS amp is they are obsoleted very fast by a new transistor device every 6 month, a new topology in afew years ( the PASS XA line last 5 years and are superexceded by the new .5 line). The tube gear no have this problem, the 2A3 tube is from 1930 years and are blowing hard in the Fi amps today.you have got to be kidding !!!! another generalized statement with NO substance what-so-ever !
Quote from: doug s. on 6 Apr 2009, 03:17 pmchair-guy/john, you might be interested in searching out a used melos ma333 or 333r to audition - these are dual mono, w/two toroids in a separate cabinet; w/two separate umbilical cords going back to the main chassis. two separate power switches to turn on each channel. that said, even the single-toroid one-box melos sha-gold-r is stil a fine sounding thing in its own right...doug s.Doug, I might just Is it a line or does it have phono? I dig my preamps with phono functions to cut down the clutter and fuss, ya' know John
There are a handful of old solid state amps, e.g. old Marantz MOSFET units, that I'd pay for, but not much. On the other hand, almost any piece of tube gear from the 60s-onward in good condition is still worth a listen and tends to hold its own, even nearly 50 years later.
Q: "Are there really folks that prefer solid state sonically?" There are many many examples of SS "devotees" being converted to tubes.I don't hear too many reports of it the other way around.That alone says a lot.
"I find it interesting how everyone decides that all audio gear needs to be warmed up to sound good and maybe it does. But doesnt real linearity come from running SS devices in extreme cold operating temperatures, especially when u have gating in the mix somewhere. I remember back in my electronic classes cooling off the transistors with a spray(cant remember what it was) but what it did was raise the beta on the transistor. If this is true than Tube gear will never come close to the linearity of SS. I think running super cooled SS devices are in the future somewhere. Not sure about any of this its just a notion that i've had for years with SS."Hello- Unless otherwise stated, electronics gear likes to operate at room temperature, around 65-70 degrees F. Room temperature is a norm and recommended for most consumer electronics. The same goes for tube equipment. If you have a device that produces a fair amount of heat, I do strongly suggest some kind of forced air cooling. It doesn't have to be a wind tunnel- just something that promotes some air circulation. Blair