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Community => Non-audio hobbies and interests => Spectator Sports => Topic started by: twitch54 on 4 Sep 2023, 02:53 pm
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Predictions heading into week one ?
usual suspects in the Top Tier this year, Chiefs, Eagles, Bengals, 49er's, Bills.
Potential Top Five ? Cowboys, Dolphins, Giants, Lions, Ravens ???
My one prediction, Sean McDermott gets canned before the season ends.
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first month really a crap shoot... the preseason is meaningless for the starters on the good teams, everything takes a few weeks to take shape
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I'd like to see that Giants hand the Cowboys a loss.
It'll be interesting to see how the Jets do this year.
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Since I don't disagree with any of twitch's favorite pics I'll throw out a real dark horse. The Steelers win the AFC North. The Bengals aren't a strong favorite with many, including twitch, picking the Ravens to maybe upset them. The Steelers filled every single one of their holes from last year in the O line, interior D line, linebacker, and cornerback. I wonder how many weeks it will take to make all of that look foolish.
The Eagles and Chiefs look unbeatable in their divisions. Nobody likes the Vikings? No love for San Diego? The Jets are where old QBs go to die. I haven't a clue what's going on in the southern divisions of either conference.
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Game one, Go Lions !! :)
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been a good while since the lions have started a season with legit expectations for a strong season, maybe even a wild card berth ... this is nice!
that said, i suspect they will start 0-1... no kelce? no c jones? no problem...
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New Lions fan here, love seeing the Chiefs put in their place. I like Mahomes, Kelce and the players just fine, I mean who can't admire Patrick, but as an Eagles fan I really want the team to lose every game. The team is very different without Jones and Kelce, but the biggest difference to me was Orlando Brown missing, the O line wasn't at all the same group that stuffed the Eagle D line last year.
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It's a good thing I don't bet on football.
I'd be living in a large cardboard box by the end of the season.
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It's a good thing I don't bet on football.
I'd be living in a large cardboard box by the end of the season.
game one can cause ulcers ! Chiefs missing two key players and receivers with butter fingers, regardless, Congrats to the Lions !
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It's a good thing I don't bet on football.
I'd be living in a large cardboard box by the end of the season.
Well, the key to that is that you are betting on only certain matchups and the betting line favors one team that you believe is incorrect.
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Lifelong Lions fan
Great game
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lions look like the real deal
chiefs and mahomes greatness still could have won if just a few more passes were caught
no one can argue, the nfl is a terrific product, deserves its high ratings
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Are the Cowgirls that good or is it just the Giants are that bad?
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Decent commentary in the WSJ (https://www.wsj.com/articles/its-getting-harderand-expensive-to-watch-sports-on-tv-football-game-streaming-nfl-season-d8551aef) about the increased expense to the viewer re: watching the NFL / sports.
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Are the Cowgirls that good or is it just the Giants are that bad?
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It sure felt that way FireGuy!! :bawl: :bawl: :bawl:
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cannot overreact to week 1, some teams are simply less ready for prime time than others, dabol will bring the giants around in a few weeks i am sure
that said, the cowboys defense looks terrific... as much as i hate to say it
fun that the real season has started, guys going at full speed, with full effort -- but we all know this is a marathon, a war of attrition till january, most teams will not resemble what we see presently by playoff time
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Decent commentary in the WSJ (https://www.wsj.com/articles/its-getting-harderand-expensive-to-watch-sports-on-tv-football-game-streaming-nfl-season-d8551aef) about the increased expense to the viewer re: watching the NFL / sports.
as I've said many times, first and foremost it's a business, secondly, it's a business.......... and thirdly, ok it's a sport. :wink:
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Aaron Rodgers carted off before his first completion as a Jet.
Not the best start for the NY teams this year.
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wow what a train wreck of a game
jets were absolutely gifted one by the utterly hapless bills, hopefully #8 will be ok in a couple weeks
bills fans, well, the good news is that it's just week one, but the bad news is the team looks like crap and josh allen has made zero progress in decision making as a qb, maybe even taken a step back... hopefully it is just rust and not evidence of his qb smarts ceiling, superman athleticism aside
both teams' fans need to get ready to suffer this season i think -- mikey mcd and bill b should be most pleased with the evening
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Reports are Rodgers is out for the season, possibly the end of his career. Waiting on an MRI for confirmation, but opinions seem pretty confident that it's a torn Achilles. The xray was negative, but that doesn't image the tendon. My son is going through a major knee and foot injury and these things are no joke. Three and a half months later and he's still not walking yet.
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Bflo, what a joke. I stated McDermott gone before years end, maybe by months end(hopefully) !!!!
'roll', good luck with your son :D
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Wow, the Jets org is really cursed!!
While I am not a Jets fan, I feel for all of them today.
Having blown out my knees 4 times (4 torn ACL's + other ligaments) and had 9 surgeries, I know that look that Rodgers had when he went down. :bawl: :bawl: :bawl:
He knew right away what happened and the seriousness of the situation.
I truly hope that he decides to rehab the injury and come back and play. That would really suck for him to end his career this way.
George
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None of the 3 New York State teams lived up to expectations.
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Meanwhile all the Florida teams won.
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None of the 3 New York State teams lived up to expectations.
For the record, there is only ONE NY State team that plays its home games in the state of NY ..... :wink:
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The escaped murderer was caught this AM (thankfully) wearing an Eagles sweatshirt, tomorrow is their home opener.......
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For the record, there is only ONE NY State team that plays its home games in the state of NY ..... :wink:
And other teams, that don't play their home games in their named city.
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The Eagles and Chiefs look unbeatable in their divisions.
Wow. The Eagles look unbeatable?? They're good, but not even a clear favorite to win the East.
And the Chiefs can lose on any give Sunday as they did last year, and clearly this year.
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Wow. The Eagles look unbeatable?? They're good, but not even a clear favorite to win the East.
And the Chiefs can lose on any give Sunday as they did last year, and clearly this year.
The Eagles absolutely favored to win the East. Every single power ranking has them above the cowgirls. The Chiefs loss of two offensive tackles was more impactful that I thought, but they're still a top contender for a super bowl birth. It's one game folks, relax.
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The Eagles absolutely favored to win the East. Every single power ranking has them above the cowgirls. The Chiefs loss of two offensive tackles was more impactful that I thought, but they're still a top contender for a super bowl birth. It's one game folks, relax.
agreed, I'm still waiting(hopefully) for McDermott to get fired !
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Wow. The Eagles look unbeatable?? They're good, but not even a clear favorite to win the East.
The Eagles are a good team. They are not in any way an unbeatable juggernaut. The Cowboys are a good team. As of today, the Eagles are a slight favorite to win the East, but if place bets today, you'll find Philly favored by 3 at home, and Dallas favored by 3 at home. That's about as close as you can get.
Like I said, they are not a clear favorite to win the East.
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The Eagles displayed why they're still the favorite to return to the Superbowl from the NFC. The Vikings had a great defensive game plan that played quarters with four deep, man under, with multiple pressures up front to attack Hurts. That weakens the linebacker run defense, but the Eagles don't have a marquis running back and their starter is out. The Eagles don't care, they said we'll just run the ball down your throat, which they did. When the Vikings dropped a safety to stop the run bam, 86 yard touchdown pass. The old cliche, they have multiple ways to beat you, applies here to a tee. And I still haven't gotten to the two new D tackles that are a wrecking crew to opposing O lines. The takeaway is that the team has played inconsistently at best, yet still is 2-0. They could very easily be 8-0 when they meet the cowgirls.
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I vote that we go back to the 1986 season!! :wink: :P
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George
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I'll second that motion.
Back under the Tuna you could see the Giants getting a little better every year.
I don't think that's what is going on nowadays.
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The Iggles do look a little shaky early in this season. The loss of O coordinator Shane Steichen is showing us this. It was good to see the adjustment to the ground and pound game. Yes the Iggles can beat you in many ways. There is a lot of talent on this team and my hope is the coaches will get the best out of them! 2-0 is a great start but not looking past the next game. Beat those Bucs!!!
Fly Iggles Fly
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yep. those eagles look unbeatable. :lol:
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So far, the night games have been ugly! (with one exception)
If the Vikings could hold onto the ball, they would have won.
And the local team has a night game Monday.
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I see Aaron Rodgers is making noises about being ready to return just in time for the Jets to not make the playoffs.
Soon he'll be peddling term life insurance alongside Joe Namath.
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Yeah, that's not going to happen unless the tendon wasn't severed. He'll be lucky to start next season if it was completley torn.
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Yeah, that's not going to happen unless the tendon wasn't severed. He'll be lucky to start next season if it was completley torn.
Check out the article below. It talk about the new approach and how it can substantially improve recovery time.
George
https://www.rochesterfirst.com/sports/sports-illustrated/930e8be9/report-aaron-rodgers-underwent-new-achilles-procedure-in-hopes-of-return-for-playoffs/
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I see Aaron Rodgers is making noises about being ready to return just in time for the Jets to not make the playoffs.
Soon he'll be peddling term life insurance alongside Joe Namath.
I thought I read somewhere he was gonna go live amongst some dolphins and their mating calls would magically heal it ? Who knows, the guy is a wack job........
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I thought I read somewhere he was gonna go live amongst some dolphins and their mating calls would magically heal it ? Who knows, the guy is a wack job........
Ayahuasca is harmless! Guess he’s been drinking this sh*+ again!
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nice bounceback game from the bills (and the chiefs too)
nice win in la for the niners
giants almost lose to cardinals LOL... they pulled it out though
denver lose to redskins/commanders at home, welcome back to the nfl sean payton :lol:
can aaron rodgers play from the shotgun in a motorized wheelchair? :duh: :popcorn:
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The network gave up on Cheifs/Bears and switched to the Cardinals/Cowgirls.
Lose, Cowboys!
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70 points! Historical game. Miami puts a butt whoopin on Denver with a 70-20 disaster for Coach Peyton and his hopes of turning around the Broncos. Coach Daniels could have tied the all time record with a field goal, but declined as he felt it wasn't in keeping with the team philosophy. I think most coaches would have taken the record.
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70 points! Historical game. Miami puts a butt whoopin on Denver with a 70-20 disaster for Coach Peyton and his hopes of turning around the Broncos. Coach Daniels could have tied the all time record with a field goal, but declined as he felt it wasn't in keeping with the team philosophy. I think most coaches would have taken the record.
Vegas baby, follow the money .........
next weeks Marque game, Miami @ Bflo, 'Squish the Fish' !!
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gotta love the nfl
greatest tv show on grass (er turf)
coming to a month in... cream rising to top, duds sinking fast, drama and storylines aplenty
fish v bills will be something...
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Steelers’ offense woke up last night.
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gotta love the nfl
greatest tv show on grass (er turf)
coming to a month in... cream rising to top, duds sinking fast, drama and storylines aplenty
fish v bills will be something...
Bills 2.5 pts favorite as of today. Miami has struggled in Orchard Park. Buffalo's defense ranks 2nd in points allowed (11.7 ppg) 2nd in total yards allowed (253 ypg) 2nd in opponent red zone efficiency (28.6) so (the fish) won't be facing a JV defense like Denver. Both teams will make the playoffs. Fins will not go undefeated.
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Come on gents the biggest news this weekend Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce are a couple!! Wooooo!!
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How long until she writes a breakup song about him??
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49ers, Eagles, Cowboys, Dolphins clearly the best teams.
Bears, Broncos, Panthers, Giants pure trash.
Bears face Broncos in week 4...the Toilet Bowl.
Someone's gotta win...loser is in prime position for #1 pick in 2024 draft.
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49ers, Eagles, Cowboys, Dolphins clearly the best teams.
Huh? The Cows lost to the Cards and it wasn't close. :scratch:
Anyway, wow! Talk about upsets, Cardinals, Colts AND Texans on the road!
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49ers, Eagles, Cowboys, Dolphins clearly the best teams.
Only three teams remain undefeated, Eagles, Niners, and Dolphins. The cowgirls are not in that list. The Eagles offensive and defensive lines are truly something to behold in this league. Chris Sims on PFT said he's never seen anything like it in the NFL, he thinks the Eagles could run the same three running plays all game long and no one could stop them. Hyperbole for sure, but the holes the O line was making were dramatic. The D line with Jaylen Carter and Jordan Davis in the middle and Riddick on the edge is absolutely scary. The Superbowl team fell into the best player in the draft by far, a generational player, as pick #9 because of tragic off the field issues and rumors of his character. It's almost not fair.
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Come on gents the biggest news this weekend Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce are a couple!! Wooooo!!
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Huh? The Cows lost to the Cards and it wasn't close. :scratch:
Anyway, wow! Talk about upsets, Cardinals, Colts AND Texans on the road!
Agreed ...... :D
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the swifties nonsense aside -- and undefeated or not, anyone who doesn't have the chiefs in the top tier of teams ain't payin' no attention...
week 9 - fish visiting arrowhead -- some truth will be told that sunday!!!
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week 9 - fish visiting arrowhead -- some truth will be told that sunday!!!
Week 7 at the Linc will be enlightening!
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week 9 - fish visiting arrowhead -- some truth will be told that sunday!!!
i was wrong about this game... they are playing it in germany!! still, it should be one heck of a showdown...
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Eagles should waltz through Washington tomorrow, fingers crossed for the Bills, I don't either team scoring 70 in this one, perhaps 70 combined ?
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Happy to see the Lions finally look like a good football team. Beating KC in KC was a huge step forward.
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Eagles should waltz through Washington tomorrow, fingers crossed for the Bills, I don't either team scoring 70 in this one, perhaps 70 combined ?
I see Washington as a very tough matchup for the Eagles, take the eight points. I have them winning, but they've left teams with some hope at the end of games this year. On paper the Steelers seem to be a lock over the Texans, but CJ has been coming on strong for the once hapless Texas team. The Buffalo game looks like fun, oh my, what will happen. This week seems to set up the next two weeks at defining how the season goes.
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With 17 games, it's a long, long season. In the end, the best teams will be in the playoffs but any given week, some good teams will lose. But also, some middle of the pack teams will be good in the beginning and then will go downhill and some bad teams will turn their season around and will be excellent but not quick enough to make the playoffs. It's still very early.
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Eagles should waltz through Washington tomorrow, fingers crossed for the Bills, I don't either team scoring 70 in this one, perhaps 70 combined ?
oh well so much for the 'waltz'. more like 'tight dance' ! As for the 70 pt prediction, close .......
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Bills remain the elite team in the east. Josh's effort today was MVP like. I know a ton of NFLer's who went gaga over Miami's 70-point effort last week over a JV defense and here's to your optimism that one game was enough to change the status quo.
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bills and j a lookin' hella strong right now -- they presented a solid formula on how to gut the fish, totally exposed their defense
jets vs chiefs was wildly entertaining... much moreso than i imagined
eagles cowgirls and niners all won games they should have won, though the commanders made it quite a battle
given the preseason hoopla and expectations, the steelers and bengals are falling awfully flat
better teams rounding into form now, and from here on out, week to week, we see who survives the grueling season with fewest stars getting seriously injured by playoff time
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Josh Allen has a new TV commercial featuring "Buffalo Pepsi". Yes, Pepsi with buffalo wing sauce poured in it. Some are now trying it with blue cheese around the rim of the glass. And people are taking the joke up as a real thing, they're actual drinking this concoction. Well, the clip I saw was people getting other people to try it. A desperate attempt at upstaging the "Traylor" relationship?
On that story, Travis was seen leaving Taylor's Manhattan apartment building Sunday morning to return to the Chief's hotel so he could ride the team bus to the stadium. Walk of shame?
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Bills remain the elite team in the east. Josh's effort today was MVP like. I know a ton of NFLer's who went gaga over Miami's 70-point effort last week over a JV defense and here's to your optimism that one game was enough to change the status quo.
In stifling heat… not enough was said about having to play when you’re baking in the sun and you’re not conditioned to play in a sauna.
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Bills remain the elite team in the east. Josh's effort today was MVP like.
while I hope they continue as such I have to keep reminding myself, it is Bflo after all ............ :scratch:
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while I hope they continue as such I have to keep reminding myself, it is Bflo after all ............ :scratch:
So true. Buffalo's fan pathology.
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On that story, Travis was seen leaving Taylor's Manhattan apartment building Sunday morning to return to the Chief's hotel so he could ride the team bus to the stadium. Walk of shame?
Dude was grinning from ear to ear as he high fived the doorman!
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speaking of which... just hilarious!!!
https://www.nfl.com/videos/bill-belichick-has-priceless-reaction-to-travis-kelce-taylor-swift-dating-rumors
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Glad I didn't watch Monday Night Football.
24-3, maybe the whole team can fake an injury and forfeit the season.
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I feel for Giants fans, so much promise last year, Coach of the Year, good record, playoff run. Now to see this must be painful. As an official old man who arises before dawn I can't stay awake past halftime in the night games without a cup of coffee. The Giants aren't worth a cup of coffee.
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the suffering of new york football fans is manifold and multi faceted :roll: :roll: :roll:
at least the giants have had a couple periods of glory... jets and bills fans have become numb to the pain year after year
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Bills got beat! Defense got gashed for nearly 500 yards and running game nonexistent!
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Bills got beat! Defense got gashed for nearly 500 yards and running game nonexistent!
Jax stayed in London after playing there last week. The Jags had the big advantage.
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Lions looking good again. They will be challenged next week against Tampa.
Been a LONG time since the Lions were relevant.
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Bills got beat! Defense got gashed for nearly 500 yards and running game nonexistent!
good, one step closer to McDermott getting canned !
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Once again, the Beagles looked really good.
I switched from the Cheifs game once I heard Romo say, "BOOM!"
John Madden he ain't.
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Cowgirls getting spanked! Glorious day!
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Cowgirls getting spanked! Glorious day!
My son and I were talking about what I think is a related matter. In Pittsburgh Jaylen Warren is outperforming the highly talented 1st round pick Najee Harris. I posited that in Matt Canada's wide zone offense's primary play the running back targets the back of the tight end. They run that until the defense overcorrects then you throw inside zone and duo at them. Warren is an undrafted free agent and does what he's told, while Najee is always trying to break a big play on his own.
In the same offensive theory on the Niners Purdy does what he's told, he doesn't try to reinvent the play, and we see the results. Many of the high dollar QBs think they need to win by themselves in spite of the OC and head coach. Purdy has none of that baggage being "Mr Irrelevant" so follows the plan and delivers the ball where it's suppose to go. Being a world renowned idiot I don't know if this hypothesis holds water, what do the experts here think?
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I agree! The Hurts interception in the LA game is a perfect example. He should have thrown the ball to the back corner of the end zone as the play called for. Instead he tried to get cute and get another PI call only this time the defender was in perfect position for the interception. Siriani gave him an earful and hopefully it sank in!!
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pretty clear that unless injuries decimate one or both of them that the niners and eagles will meet again in the nfc championship game
niners may be peaking a little early with 12 more games to play, maybe the eagles will once again peak at the right time
afc side certainly more interesting and more uncertain, chiefs and who else???
what the patriots have become is shocking, even from the several years of mediocrity that has prevailed since tb12 departed...
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Don't count out the Lions. They have been dealing with injuries and still have an good record. Once their secondary and offensive line get fully healthy, they can challenge in the NFC.
Long season. Will have to wait and see.
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what the patriots have become is shocking, even from the several years of mediocrity that has prevailed since tb12 departed...
Having lived through the Steelers Superbowl run in the seventies it's not surprising at all. Chuck Noll told his wife right after that last SB win that she needed to prepare for some tough years. The team was old and they didn't have the draft picks to rebuild. Bradshaw's arm was too damaged to repair, similar to Brady leaving as relates to the team. Great coaches are always attached to great QBs, Lombardi to Starr, Noll to Bradshaw, Madden to Stabler, and we we see again in New England. The only great coach to get out before the curve was Walsh, who was the most brilliant in many ways.
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It kind of looked like the Browns had some help from the officiating crew and some SF injuries.
Even so, they looked a lot better than I was expecting them to.
Think I'll give the Eagles/Jets game a pass.
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Think I'll give the Eagles/Jets game a pass.
Uhh..dude you missed a big upset win
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So I did, good for the Jets!
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This happens almost every year, some plucky team with a good defense beats the front runner. It's unusual for it to happen to two undefeated teams on the same weekend. Next Sunday night the Eagles face off against the Dolphins, should be fun.
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This happens almost every year, some plucky team with a good defense beats the front runner. It's unusual for it to happen to two undefeated teams on the same weekend. Next Sunday night the Eagles face off against the Dolphins, should be fun.
Agreed, the 'Fish' have a far more potent offense than the Jets. I suspect this loss will reset the reality button for the Birds.
Bills, what pathetic showing against the Giants, Bills secondary sucks, running game sputters with a few glimpses of promise, winning ugly !
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nfl is still the best real life soap opera in sports
professional scriptwriters couldn't have done a better job...
only if the giants coulda knocked off the bills in the late game ... tyrod taylor at the goal line ... :roll::duh:
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Went to the Lions/Bucs game in Tampa. What a crazy atmosphere. There was easily as many Lions fans as Bucs fans. After the game, the Lions fans were partying like there was no tomorrow. Never seen anything quite like it.
Could be an interesting year for the Lions and the long suffering fans.
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As a Lions fan for over 60 years I am still waiting (cringing) for the other shoe to drop. Sorry, I just can't help it. And I find it extra gut-wrenching lately to hear all prognosticating of how both their brilliant OC and DC will be leaving next year for head coaching jobs. Ugh! Can we not at least string together a few successful years before dismantling the team?! They still have yet to even win a playoff game! Maybe I should start watching pickleball or cornhole on TV instead ...
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As a Lions fan for over 60 years I am still waiting (cringing) for the other shoe to drop. Sorry, I just can't help it. And I find it extra gut-wrenching lately to hear all prognosticating of how both their brilliant OC and DC will be leaving next year for head coaching jobs. Ugh! Can we not at least string together a few successful years before dismantling the team?! They still have yet to even win a playoff game! Maybe I should start watching pickleball or cornhole on TV instead ...
Don't give up. I attended the game in Tampa, and they played very well against a very good Tampa team. What was amazing was the fan reaction after the game. One would have thought they won the Super Bowl.
Screw the football writers. They always publish crap, that's how they make their living. 90% of what they put out is nonsense anyway.
This team just seems different. If you could have seen the excitement on the Lions bench after the game, you would realize that they are very excited and have confidence.
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lions are the real deal, pretty sure they will be in the nfc final four, injuries allowing -- they have talent, are very well coached and play their asses off every week
fish v eagles tomorrow.... should be a real treat...
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Lions getting spanked 28-0! Don't crown them yet.
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Tyrod Taylor totally outplaying Daniel Jones. Gotta love it when the backup qb on his 6th team outplays the $160 million guy.
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Lions getting spanked 28-0! Don't crown them yet.
Yeah. Pretty embarrassing.
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The Giants sure dragged this one out but good for them.
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McDermott get fired yet ? fingers crossed !!!!
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Sorry, Jets fans, but at the moment I'd say the Chiefs are the best team in football.
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Sorry, Jets fans, but at the moment I'd say the Chiefs are the best team in football.
The way the Ravens looked today, may have to demur.
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McDermott get fired yet ? fingers crossed !!!!
They've had major injuries to several key players this year.
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A real "any given Sunday" day in the NFL. I haven't checked my sheet yet but I might have only got a couple games right. In our straight up pool I picked both the Fish and the Rams to beat my Eagles and Steelers, which certainly added to my missteps. I mean the Eagles looked pretty beatable against the Jets last week, surely the Dolphins would give them a serious whooping with their unstoppable offense and strong defense. Apparently not so much.
In a much less consequential game the Steelers handled the Rams in a similar manner. Also not a blowout by any measure, but also a convincing win. This is going to be a great season if it keeps going back and forth like this. What was your favorite game this week?
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They've had major injuries to several key players this year.
Regardless, McDermott is PATHETIC !!!!!! But then it's Bflo, can't expect much more !!!!
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Move over Cowboys fans there’s a new sheriff in town!!
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/the-philadelphia-phillies-should-be-the-new-americas-team
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so bills hit rock bottom losing to the hapless pats ... sure, bills had injured players, but so did the patriots (matt judon, christian gonzales etc) -- the fact that a mcdermott-led defense let the utterly futile pats offense have life should cost him his job... that is nothing less than coaching malpractice
dolphins vs eagles was fun... definitely lived up to the billing, a gripping game... the fish had their starting center and both guards out and couldn't run for most the game, and still, they were hard to stop on offense, it took tua's late pick to decide it ...seeing the eagles d close in on the fish ball carriers was a sight to behold, that is some high level football! ... and isn't jalen hurts one tough mo-fo??? :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: WOW!!!
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so bills hit rock bottom losing to the hapless pats ... sure, bills had injured players, but so did the patriots (matt judon, christian gonzales etc) -- the fact that a mcdermott-led defense let the utterly futile pats offense have life should cost him his job... that is nothing less than coaching malpractice
yep, come on Pagula, enough is enough !!
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As a Lions fan for over 60 years I am still waiting (cringing) for the other shoe to drop.
Well?? ... Premature??? ...
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The NFL is now a long grind. Games matter now but not so much as to determine a SB winner. Every team is going to lose at least a couple of games and go through bad patches.
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The NFL is now a long grind. Games matter now but not so much as to determine a SB winner. Every team is going to lose at least a couple of games and go through bad patches.
very true
war of attrition is well underway... need to see which teams in the upper tier are the healthiest going into the final weeks of the regular season
on monday night, 49ers lost in minnesota to a jacked up, highly motivated vikings team, which is not great -- but relatively speaking, they came out of that carpeted house of horrors without major injuries, most importantly christian mccaffrey (not to mention the coaches kept trent williams out of the game entirely)... the key now is to keep the team as whole as possible while winning the games each week
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Wow, has Mahomes come down with the 'Wu-Flu' ? Have the 49ers come down to earth ? Eagles #1 ? next Sunday Dallas game should be interesting ....
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Big shocker in Las Vegas, just about everybody there fired late last night. The Steelers could use a good OC, are you listening Mr Rooney?
And Dobbs to Minnesota, another shocking move. Sympathies to Kirk Cousins, he'd really start to put it all together there.
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mark davis is one of the weakest owners in the nfl... total lack of judgement and any meaningful wisdom (what do expect from a useless 2nd generation heir) ... not to mention the moronic haircut
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Eagles crush the Cowgirls yesterday afternoon. In the big afternoon game the Birds go up big against the Girls from Dallas then hold off 56 yards on three penalties in the referee's comeback attempt. Round two in the five game murders row the Eagles face by the new NFL AI schedule makers ending in the rematch in Dallas.
Chris Sims on PFT Live brought up an interesting point. The Dallas tight end was called down by contact on fourth down inches in front of the goal line when his knee was down while possessing the ball. Sims notes that for it to be a touchdown the receiver has to survive the ground still in possession of the ball, so why is he down before that happens? Another situation, the receiver toe taps inside the back of the end zone falling out of bounds. At the point he catches the ball it's a touchdown, unless he loses the ball when he falls out of bounds. Sims, and I, believe the play is over when he scores a touchdown, what happens out of bounds is irrelevant. In the field of play you catch a ball, are tackled, hit the ground, you're down at that point. Unless you don't hold onto the ball that you've already caught. If you maintain possession while sliding along the ground they don't mark you down where you stop, you're marked down where you hit the ground. The NFL's stupid, inconsistent catch rule needs to be modified, overturned, changed, clarified, something. How can what happens out of the bounds of play affect the game? How can what happens after you're down affect the play?
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there is no doubt that consistency and sensibility have never been a strong point in nfl (and many other league) rules -- makes ones head spin sometimes how stupid it all can be
it was a wild (and excellent) sunday of football, many big face offs, with much 'truth' revealed (much of which we suspected or already knew)
-- eagles just are a beast of team, both lines are incredibly good, they win ugly again and again despite arguably being outplayed
-- cowgirls are a good team, maybe even a very good team, dak played as well as i have ever seen him play, but alas, cannot deliver the w
-- kc, ravens, cincy are real deal contenders... bills, fish, seahawks are on a lower tier
-- belichick is officially cooked, its over, whatever magic there was, is long gone... time to fade out into the sunset, emperor has no clothes left on
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Billy B can't win without Tommy!
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Bills, one word, Pathetic !
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Yes the Iggles are winning ugly! Last year they looked to be having a lot more fun playing the game. This year will all the high expectations it’s more business like. Heck they really tried hard to loose yesterday but as fate would have it they (and the refs) pulled it out! Bye week for them and a 5 game stretch of tough games starting in KC.
Fly Iggles Fly
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If you take a step back, this is probably the most fun season in some time. Entertainment left and right, week-in, week-out.
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Holy crap! Anyone see the TB/Houston game??? :o
I thought it was over with less than a minute left and stopped watching. :o
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agree -- it is an immensely entertaining season, so many interesting storylines, vicious competition at the top of the pile
if eagles can get back to the big game it will be immensely impressive... to deliver under pressure of great expectations... the next few games after their bye will be the gauntlet though... will be something to watch
bills, well, every year its the same, promise unfulfilled ... it is shame that josh allen's prime is being wasted
kc is so much fun to watch - like all dynastic teams, they evolve, figure out how win in different ways as personnel changes, it is amazing they have kept up the excellence after choosing not to re-sign tyreek
new england... well tb12 gronk and vince wilfork ain't walkin back in thru dat door!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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The Bears beat the Panthers 16-13 on TNF last night. Although I'll admit that I slept through a good bit of it, from the highlights (sic) and what I did see of the game there was one solitary highlight play, the 76 yard return for a TD. Such is the state of the NFL today that unless you're watching the front runners it's nearly unbearable. Last Thursday watching my home team Steelers win in what was a much better game it was still horrible sports TV. I have thoughts on why modern NFL TV is often so bad interspersed with only a couple great games and it will lies with 356 Park Ave, but what do you guys think?
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To me watching a “bad” NFL game is still better than the garbage TV the networks are putting out. IMHO live sports is still the best drama going. I was about 70% engaged in last nights game reading news on my phone and a little nodding off. FWIW I’m not a big fan of Thursday night games never have been! Players need more time to heal up and get some practice in. Cant recall the last “great”’TNF game. They always seem to be a little lackluster. The NFL wants parody and increased viewership kinda a double edged sword. Limit what you can spend but still put out a great product? Not going to happen for all teams! The NFL in Europe? Jury is still out on this one!
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What we know is that there are not 32 people in America who can play quarterback in the NFL at a high level under the current rules. Before 1976 QBs mostly handed off to Franco Harris or Jim Brown. Joe Namath didn't throw a single pass in the fourth quarter of his Superbowl win, the Steelers had five shutouts in the 1976 season. But the NFL wanted scoring because that's what fans wanted. Which has led to a derth of talent behind center and rules where you aren't allowed to tackle the QB with a tackle that's allowed anywhere else on the field. DBs are flagged for holding their position on the field as if they have to get out of the way if the receiver wants that space. Passers, pass rushers, and elite receivers dominate the league and there aren't enough people who can do it. Thus we have 5 or 6 teams at the top with all the others in the middle fighting for scraps.
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What we know is that there are not 32 people in America who can play quarterback in the NFL at a high level under the current rules. Before 1976 QBs mostly handed off to Franco Harris or Jim Brown. Joe Namath didn't throw a single pass in the fourth quarter of his Superbowl win, the Steelers had five shutouts in the 1976 season. But the NFL wanted scoring because that's what fans wanted. Which has led to a derth of talent behind center and rules where you aren't allowed to tackle the QB with a tackle that's allowed anywhere else on the field. DBs are flagged for holding their position on the field as if they have to get out of the way if the receiver wants that space. Passers, pass rushers, and elite receivers dominate the league and there aren't enough people who can do it. Thus we have 5 or 6 teams at the top with all the others in the middle fighting for scraps.
Well said 'roll' and therein lies why I didn't watch a single minute yesterday. Enjoyed mulching leaves and then watching the NHRA finals from Pomona. Big Congrats to Doug Kalitta, you finally did it buddy !!
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Broncos beat Bill's! McDermott may very well get fired!
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Broncos beat Bill's! McDermott may very well get fired!
Fired ?? hell , he should never have been hired !!!! The Bills are certifiably pathetic and if Pegula doesn't can him this morning he becomes the 'lead pathetic' !!
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What we know is that there are not 32 people in America who can play quarterback in the NFL at a high level under the current rules. Before 1976 QBs mostly handed off to Franco Harris or Jim Brown. Joe Namath didn't throw a single pass in the fourth quarter of his Superbowl win, the Steelers had five shutouts in the 1976 season. But the NFL wanted scoring because that's what fans wanted. Which has led to a derth of talent behind center and rules where you aren't allowed to tackle the QB with a tackle that's allowed anywhere else on the field. DBs are flagged for holding their position on the field as if they have to get out of the way if the receiver wants that space. Passers, pass rushers, and elite receivers dominate the league and there aren't enough people who can do it. Thus we have 5 or 6 teams at the top with all the others in the middle fighting for scraps.
Well, it looks like the so called experts were wrong about Jared Goff. He was dubbed finished in LA. That judgement was obviously wrong. The Lions are finally seeing a resurgence, and Goff is a major reason for their success.
I'm old school. Running the football is vital (IMHO) to a successful offense.
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Well, it looks like the so called experts were wrong about Jared Goff. He was dubbed finished in LA. That judgement was obviously wrong. The Lions are finally seeing a resurgence, and Goff is a major reason for their success.
I'm old school. Running the football is vital (IMHO) to a successful offense.
Lifelong Lions fan here
This is uncharted territory for us
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Unfortunately they may find a way to screw it all up. Same old Lions.
Speaking of coaches on the hot seat, Daboll's seat is burning. Has anyone gone from coach of the year to fired the next??
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can we count to 12? :duh: :duh: :duh: :duh: :duh: :duh: :duh: :duh: :duh: :duh: :duh: :duh:
this is really really bad
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Coaches on the hot seat? Oh my. Belichick is number one, followed by Staley, McDermott, Dabol, Payton, Reich, Rivera. Any more? It would almost be easier to list the head coaches in safe positions. It seems there are about as many qualified head coaches as there are good quarterbacks, funny how that matches up almost every year.
There's not a lot of strategy in the NFL. Most every offense runs a wide zone concept, most every defense runs two deep zones. The determinate factor is turnovers. If you have a QB who doesn't turn the ball over and an edge rusher who makes the other guy turn over the ball you're going to win in the NFL.
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Bills fired their OC
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Bills fired their OC
token gesture, while Dorsey deserved it the buck stops with McDermott. At least Marv got them to the 'dance', send Opie (McDermott) back to Mayberry RFD for some of Aunt Bea's homemade cookies !
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just a matter of time -- "hey sorry bud i gotta let you go cuz i don't want it to be me"
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Steelers should have a somewhat easier time in Cleveland this weekend with Watson out.
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So watching Thursday Night Football's big matchup last night. Two good teams, one on the rise, one struggling. Should have been about the game, but officiating was again front and center. A 57 yard touchdown run called back because somebody got blocked. The ref called it a hold on Becham, but on the replay clearly there was no holding, not a whiff, it was a block. Another play where pass interference was called, on the replay the defender never touched the receiver. Literally, his appendages never contacted the receiver, it wasn't a judgement call on hand fighting, he never contacted the receiver during the play. I fell asleep at the half, goodness knows what I may have missed, in one game. What the hell is going on with officiating in the NFL? You can see the NFL has been replacing the older fat guys with more fit younger officials, but it's still part time officials for a multi hundred billion dollar industry who aren't cutting it. It's insane. And the question of influence from 356 Park Avenue is serious. The NFL has embraced gambling and that taints the entire process. I suspect there's more impetuous to keep games close than pick one team or another to win if officials are indeed influenced. I think we're headed to a big reconing.
Don't get me started on Joe Burrow being obviously injured on the plane coming into the game wearing a wrist brace, but not on the injury report. He later left the game with a wrist injury. What does Las Vegas think about that?
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glad I watched NetFlix !
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It looks like Joe Burrow is out for the remainder of the season.
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It looks like Joe Burrow is out for the remainder of the season.
Wow, I didn't see that anywhere. What was the injury? I know the wrist, but what exactly?
Also a big to do about Burrows with a wrist brace on before the game. Florio on PFT didn't know what it was, but as a person with severe joint pain I instantly recognized it was something you can buy at any drug store or grocery with a pharmacy counter. So, why wasn't he on the injury report? Which would have mattered big time to gamblers. And since the NFL has fully embraced gambling they're co-opted in delivering accurate injury reports. How long before someone sues the league for inaccurate injury reports when they lose a bet?
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38921229/bengals-qb-joe-burrow-season-likely-needs-surgery
Torn wrist ligament, occurred in the game.
Was wearing compression sleeve for completely separate minor issues he's been dealing with. All football players have minor aches and pains.....not on the injury report.
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war of attrition continues... stay tuned...
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Aaaannnd the suing has begun:
https://www.mensjournal.com/news/dave-portnoy-suing-nfl-after-bengals-joe-burrow-injury-report-controversy
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The Giants should bribe somebody: Less Dallas, More Washington.
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Eagles secondary needs to shape up if they are to beat KC tonite
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The Giants should bribe somebody: Less Dallas, More Washington.
Actually, the opposite...more everybody not Washington to get the best draft slot possible. :wink:
I want the Giants to take a chance and draft a new QB if they can get one of the top few picks.
George
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what a wonderful game played by arguably the two best teams in the fray, real heavyweight fight, tense and stressful
basically these two squads are even steven, so key mistakes in a few plays yield a margin for victory... and tonight kc made several unforgivable ones...
i take back what i said about them not missing tyreek, even the greatest of quarterbacks can't catch the ball on the receiving end.... :duh:
wouldn't be at all surprised if we see these two back in the super bowl in february
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Eagles crush the Chiefs last night. Okay, okay, they got lucky on a blown coverage late, but a win is a win. A defensive struggle where the Eagles offense found a way in the second half while the chiefs could not score a point after the half. As either team might have won in the fourth quarter we didn't learn much about future matchups, but at least we got a great Monday Night Football game.
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So, I have pretty much decided that customers in Jacksonville, Houston and Nashville have to pay double for the rest of the 23 season.............heheheheeeee
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Steelers fire embattled OC Matt Canada. No replacement named.
https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2023/11/21/matt-canada-fired-kenny-pickett-mike-tomlin/stories/202311210066
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So, I have pretty much decided that customers in Jacksonville, Houston and Nashville have to pay double for the rest of the 23 season.............heheheheeeee
Half price for long suffering Giants fans?? :wink: :wink:
George
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Steelers fire embattled OC Matt Canada. No replacement named.
https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2023/11/21/matt-canada-fired-kenny-pickett-mike-tomlin/stories/202311210066
well, it worked for Bflo in the first game. We shall see if they are so lucky in Philly this weekend, I doubt it !
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I missed most of the game, stuffing my fat little face, but Green Bay looked good.
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Loins got beat! R they overrated?
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Dolly!! :drool:
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Dolly!! :drool:
My goodness she was an embarrassment. I love Dolly Parton for the wonderful person she is, but women in their seventies who've lost their voice should not be on stage in hot pants. She had to hold on to the stage to remain standing. I felt so bad for this delightful person who has done so much for so many that I had to turn the channel.
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Loins got beat! R they overrated?
If you want to look at the most unpredictable results, try predicting division games. Yeah, most of the time it usually goes as it should but division teams know each other's weaknesses better.
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Lions got beat! R they overrated?
lions pass defense was atrocious... made jordan love look like brett favre in his prime
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ahhh the bills... this squad just knows how to find a way to lose... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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ahhh the bills... this squad just knows how to find a way to lose... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
It was a great game going to overtime with a 60 yard FG. Back and forth the whole game, Bills up early then the Eagles bouncing back. In overtime the Bills marched right down the field and I told my son that it was a great game even if the Eagles lose and I was impressed by both teams and both quarterbacks.
It was a little birthday party for my 70th so after watching the Steelers here in Pittsburgh, terrible game even tho they won, they took me to Buffalo Wild Wings. Of course emptied out here in the Burgh so we had our choice of tables to watch the first half then back home. So many great plays, lead changes, two of the top QBs in the league, a true classic.
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ahhh the bills... this squad just knows how to find a way to lose
I normally don't blame the refs for when teams win or lose, because it usually all works out in the wash over the entirety of the game. But when the Bills were driving with strong momentum and Josh got horse-collar tackled and dumped the ball ... That no-call on the tackle, which was blatant and obvious illegal, and to make matters worse ruling intentional grounding, that immediately and completely killed their drive and mojo. I really think they were moments away from getting into the end zone and would win the game. That was complete horse$#!t.
And the Lions ... they are on a serious down-slide. The defense is swiss cheese. And offense, even with all of that talent, have lost their mojo ... I seriously doubt they will win another game the rest of the season. True, I'm a loooong-time suffering fan, so perhaps biased/cynical. But they have looked awful lately. While other teams in their division are playing better.
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And the Lions ... they are on a serious down-slide. The defense is swiss cheese. And offense, even with all of that talent, have lost their mojo ... I seriously doubt they will win another game the rest of the season.
Well, the Saints next week will be a good test of your concerns. If the Lions can't beat the Saints then you definitely have something to worry about.
Watching Dennis Allen destroy the team has been a grim affair. Meanwhile, Sean Payton has revived the Broncos. I think a lot of folks in New Orleans are enjoying the Broncos' games just to see a few former players (Trautman, Lutz, Lil' Jordan Humphrey) playing with Payton and looking like a coherent, serious-minded team and not the dilapidated mess the Saints have become.
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cowgirls lookin' pretty... seahawks are a pretty good team, great effort, but dallas just a little better in all phases
seahawks in the unenviable position of being just good enough to lose to any of the top teams
was exciting to watch but the outcome hardly unexpected
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cowgirls lookin' pretty... seahawks are a pretty good team, great effort, but dallas just a little better in all phases
seahawks in the unenviable position of being just good enough to lose to any of the top teams
was exciting to watch but the outcome hardly unexpected
Mostly agree, but the Hawks were marching for the win when they decided not to block Parsons on 4th and two. Not saying they would have scored a TD and won, which would have extended Dallas' streak of not beating a winning team this year, but they had a shot after consistently moving the ball against the Dallas D. I think the takeaway from a great game is that the Cowgirls need to be at home for the playoffs.
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Well, the Saints next week will be a good test of your concerns. If the Lions can't beat the Saints then you definitely have something to worry about.
Watching Dennis Allen destroy the team has been a grim affair. Meanwhile, Sean Payton has revived the Broncos. I think a lot of folks in New Orleans are enjoying the Broncos' games just to see a few former players (Trautman, Lutz, Lil' Jordan Humphrey) playing with Payton and looking like a coherent, serious-minded team and not the dilapidated mess the Saints have become.
I hope the Lions are getting a good confidence boost. Even though beating the Saints is not a Herculean task, they should be up 28-0 by halftime.
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I normally don't blame the refs for when teams win or lose, because it usually all works out in the wash over the entirety of the game. But when the Bills were driving with strong momentum and Josh got horse-collar tackled and dumped the ball ... That no-call on the tackle, which was blatant and obvious illegal, and to make matters worse ruling intentional grounding, that immediately and completely killed their drive and mojo. I really think they were moments away from getting into the end zone and would win the game. That was complete horse$#!t.
And the Lions ... they are on a serious down-slide. The defense is swiss cheese. And offense, even with all of that talent, have lost their mojo ... I seriously doubt they will win another game the rest of the season. True, I'm a loooong-time suffering fan, so perhaps biased/cynical. But they have looked awful lately. While other teams in their division are playing better.
Oh ye of little faith. The Lions pulled out the win against the Saints. The injuries on the O-Line are taking a toll. I think the coaches will address this as best they can. I expect to see some improvement.
C-J Gardner will be back soon, and Irwin will help the pass rush. They may not go too far in the post season, but they will have a good season overall. One more good off season, and they will be among the elite.
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49ers whipping the Beagles!
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49ers whipping the Beagles!
1st quarter was looking dicey for the niners and then the dam broke
thought the greenlaw ejection in 3q was a potential turning point, but the deebo td immediately thereafter was a backbreaker, what a tremendous response
hope they can do it again in the playoffs!
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Chiefs got beat too!
Mainly by bad officiating
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Mainly by bad officiating
The officiating is atrocious across the league. The roughness penalty against GB for hitting Mahomes with a perfectly legal textbook hit, exactly the way the NFL would like all players to do it, while Mahomes was in bounds, is exemplary of everything wrong in the NFL. Officials get accused of all kinds of cheating, but it's surely incompetence in most cases. I think it's possible they have pressure from the league to keep games close, but the embrace of gambling taints every single bad call. The league needs major changes. Professional full time refs is a mandatory change needed yesterday. And they need to distance from gambling. Just like tobacco is legal for use but not advertising because it's toxic, gambling needs to be removed from NFL TV time. Rant done.
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i agree, the officiating is just atrocious, changes outcomes of far too many important games
but then again, this is actually nothing new...
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Hope you stayed up to watch Bengals Jags! Entertaining!
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Hope you stayed up to watch Bengals Jags! Entertaining!
Yes and no. I fell asleep early, as usual these days, but woke up for the end. Great game going to OT. Hopefully the Jaguars aren't searching for a QB and Trever Laurence comes back quickly. The kid in Cincy looks better than Burrows.
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It was quite a game. Although I am not a Jags fan, they have been so awful the past few years it is nice to see them having some success (despite losing to the Bengals). Hopefully Lawrence will be back on his feet soon and his sprain heals quickly.
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Stick a fork in em, the Steelers are done. A pitiful performance against one of the lowest ranked teams in the league featuring their backup QB shredding the D for more points than they scored in the last three games combined. And with any other team in the league Coach Tomlin would be gone. But, he has another year on his contract and the Rooneys never pay anyone not to either coach or play. The only option is a trade, which with the derth of head coaching in the league could happen. The key factor is there's a new GM there, Omar Kahn, who may want his own man in the position and the long time policy might be broken. Tomlin is a good coach, sometimes it's just that the message has become stale. I know it has for George Pickens and Di'Vonte Johnson.
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I think Trubisky is done in this league. What a bust.
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Getting ready for Sunday…
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzZvRKIPzYn/
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Great article on McDermott
https://www.golongtd.com/p/the-mcdermott-problem-part-i-blame
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Great article on McDermott
https://www.golongtd.com/p/the-mcdermott-problem-part-i-blame
I've stated here more than once, McDermott is NOT a head coach. I'm beginning to think Pegula isn't much of an owner either.
On a positive note, one of my cigar buds bet a 5k parlay on the Pats last nite, walked away with 24k, not a bad pay day ! :green:
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Bit of NFL humor.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=259600)
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Dang Bills won, which means McDermott sticking around.
Anyone watch the Vikings Raiders snoozefest?
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Terrible performance by the Eagles last night, in every facet of the game. The team personnel is actually much better than last year's team, but they obviously cannot recover from the loss of both defensive and offensive coordinators. Prescott had hours in the pocket unmolested.
WTH is going on with the Minnesota game? A hockey score? You'd say a 3-0 baseball game was boring. Oh my.
Can the Bills make a playoff run? They looked like at least an image of the former team. And Toney may have played his last down for KC after screwing up the greatest play in football this year, and arguably losing the game for KC. Mahomes went ballistic. A sports guy on MSNBC said seeing Mahomes go off after the game was like seeing the Dali Llama bitch out a waiter.
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So the Cowboys beat the Iggles and we have 3 teams at 10-3 in the NFC. Going to be fun to see who will come out on top over the next 4 games.
Go Iggles!!
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Eagles have not looked good at all in the last 4 games. While they(on paper) have a patsi schedule the rest of the way they could easily drop a game(or two ??)
Had to laugh at Mahonnes crying like a baby after the off sides call spoiled their victory. On the flip side had the Chief's won perhaps that would have been McDermott's exit card, oh well, maybe next weekend ?
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Dang Bills won, which means McDermott sticking around.
Anyone watch the Vikings Raiders snoozefest?
The highlights from that 3-0 game were mesmerizing.
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I'm a Chiefs fan..they lost because of their own failures, not because of the Ref and the offsides..Mahommes better get used to losing..this team is no where as good as the past few seasons.
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I'm a Chiefs fan..they lost because of their own failures, not because of the Ref and the offsides..Mahommes better get used to losing..this team is no where as good as the past few seasons.
His receivers keep dropping passes.
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I'm a Chiefs fan..they lost because of their own failures, not because of the Ref and the offsides..Mahommes better get used to losing..this team is no where as good as the past few seasons.
At first blush I thought the call must be agregious because it never gets called and was on the greatest play of the year. Watching PFT Live Mike Florio and Chris Sims clearly showed Toney was way, way offside and never checked with the line judge like you see all receivers doing. Just stupidity on Toney's part. But... if no flag that play very likely wins the game, despite the Chief's less than dominate play.
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At first blush I thought the call must be agregious because it never gets called and was on the greatest play of the year. Watching PFT Live Mike Florio and Chris Sims clearly showed Toney was way, way offside and never checked with the line judge like you see all receivers doing. Just stupidity on Toney's part. But... if no flag that play very likely wins the game, despite the Chief's less than dominate play.
A retired NFL ref was interviewed and pointed out that while it was rarely called in the past, so far this year it has been called 11 times. Also to add to that, 'all' NFL teams were made aware of the decision to not just give an arbitrary 'warning' on such at the beginning of the season. So, 'sour grapes' for Mahonnes and the Chiefs, nothing more .......
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great last month of the regular season comin up... greatest unscripted soap opera on tv
steelers balloon was bound to burst, they were never that good, had just gutted out some close wins early, now, reality sets in
iggles have lost coordinators but i think the defense has had some serious injuries behind the front line, makes a huge difference in 3rd down stops -- then, also, eagles aren't surprising anyone anymore, everybody brings their a+ game, and this takes a toll game after game
fish showed what they are last night... pretty good but can't quite deliver in crunch time, defense is a mess under pressure
chiefs definitely showing some serious flaws... we will see if their championship pedigree can overcome in this last month and into post season
watch the browns and bengals... they could do some damage
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Always nice to see the Cowgirls get beaten up.
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Always nice to see the Cowgirls get beaten up.
+1 oops is this piling on?
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+1 oops is this piling on?
+2 --- Piling on? Not even close. Someone must have told Dak it was a playoff game.
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Bills with another big win..McDermott ain't going nowhere.
Cowgirls face Miami on the road next week..if I were a betting man I'd bet on the fins.
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great last month of the regular season comin up... greatest unscripted soap opera on tv
steelers balloon was bound to burst, .... Etc.
I agree with the entire post. Especially the Steelers and Eagles assessments. But... why is no one mentioning the loss of Kenny Pickett concurrent with the Steeler losses? He went out and they haven't won a game since. As noted by jjss49 they were only a middle of the road team with him, perhaps a playoff appearance, but without him they're dead in the water and sinking fast.
But you're correct about it being a wild end to the regular season, just wonderful to watch. Can't remember when so many teams from the top on down are all in play to be either the top seed or only a wildcard.
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Bills with another big win..McDermott ain't going nowhere.
Ok, hopefully when their season ends he gets dumped ..... :icon_lol:
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Ok, hopefully when their season ends he gets dumped ..... :icon_lol:
Even if they win the Superbowl?
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Even if they win the Superbowl?
LOL, we're talking about the Bills.......... :scratch:
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LOL, we're talking about the Bills.......... :scratch:
Oh geez, sssssoooorrrrryyyyy! :lol:
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Oh geez, sssssoooorrrrryyyyy! :lol:
all in good fun, for there's no longer standing Bills fan than me !
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Eagles lose again!!
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Eagles lose again!!
A terrible loss at the worst of times, they should have rolled over Seattle with a backup QB. The personnel is better than last year, but they have none of last years magic on either offense or defense. The loss of both OC and DC has hit them hard. Last year they made opposing defenses look foolish. They crushed opposing offenses, it didn't seem fair. Hurts has been playing injured all year, but everyone's injured in some way.
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Interesting on the Eagles DC, apparently the one up in the box was not the one calling the plays ?
We shall see what happens but considering they had the easiest schedule the last four weeks of any playoff bound team, all four teams had losing records, they had better win out in hope of getting their mo-jo back.
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While my season has been a trainwreck (Giants fan here), I do love when both the Cowgirls and Eagles lose in the same weekend!!
George
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all in good fun, for there's no longer standing Bills fan than me !
Actually, the crazy thing is that Allen only threw 15 times! Really, they might be becoming the best AFC team.
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Actually, the crazy thing is that Allen only threw 15 times! Really, they might be becoming the best AFC team.
yep and one of the best 'all purpose RB yards from scrimmage' since the days of Thurman !
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As one born and raised in Seattle, I was ready to give up on the Seahawks but the last few minutes of the game completely changed my mind.
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Actually, the crazy thing is that Allen only threw 15 times! Really, they might be becoming the best AFC team.
That was a specific game plan against the cowgirls. The only way to stop Parsons is to run right at him. He's such a force pass rushing or running down backs from the off side that he wrecks games. But his only weakness is running right at him with a big tackle blocking.
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Bills pull another one out of their butt. Better not look past the Pats next week towards the season ending game against the Fish
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OH, darn.
Cowgirls lost.
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Bills pull another one out of their butt. Better not look past the Pats next week towards the season ending game against the Fish
A descent scenario for the Bill's last game could be Miami may have nothing to play for and Buffalo just needs the win for a playoff run. Fish possibly will have their B team on the field.
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I'm reminded of 2004 when the Bills played the Steelers B team at home..and lost, missing the playoffs.
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OH, darn.
Cowgirls lost.
Christmas joy, God bless us everyone.
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I'm reminded of 2004 when the Bills played the Steelers B team at home..and lost, missing the playoffs.
You are quite correct. Another reminder Buffalo just can't have nice things. That was ugliness, squared.
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The Chiefs aren't looking so hot as the season winds down.
The Eagles fans must be happy the way their season is going to end.
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Steelers win, Eagles win, cowgirls lose, giants lose. What a wonderful Christmas season.
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49er's looked sloppy at home to say the least. Lamar looked like the league MVP.
Eagles win looking lucky and ugly (again)
Cowgirls showed why that can't beat a good team on the road (again)
KC beginning to loose the air out of their ballon ?
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matchups to watch this weekend ..........
Lions/Cowgirls - while Dallas is tough at home they've down so against mostly losing opponents
Dolphins/Ravens - possible pre-view of AFC championship ?
Bengals/Chiefs - can the Chiefs get back on track ?
a big shout out to the Brownies and the resurgence of Flaco, is there a team with more injuries right now playing as well ?
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matchups to watch this weekend ..........
Lions/Cowgirls - while Dallas is tough at home they've down so against mostly losing opponents
Dolphins/Ravens - possible pre-view of AFC championship ?
Bengals/Chiefs - can the Chiefs get back on track ?
a big shout out to the Brownies and the resurgence of Flaco, is there a team with more injuries right now playing as well ?
Good post, I agree. I'd love to see the Lyons win, but I think Dallas wins at home again. All three are must watch football if my two teams aren't playing.
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comin' down the home stretch... week to week drama at its finest!
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comin' down the home stretch... week to week drama at its finest!
yep, just the way Vegas likes it !! :wink:
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Pretty sure cowgirls just stole a win there.
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Tough to loose when you have the zebras on your team!
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Yeah but Detroit failed on their 4th down TD attempt and could have made the FG to make it 7-6 instead of 7-3 earlier.
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that game was highly entertaining, though on so many fronts there was unbelievable ineptitude, for what are to be two high seeded playoff teams
go for 2 pt conversion from the 7 yd line? wtf?
don't report properly for tackle eligible? wtf?
cowboys let lions march down the field unimpeded with 1:46 on the clock? wtf?
dak throws long and out of bounds on second down instead of eating clock? wtf?
wtf?
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Eagles lose unbelievably to cards..Will have to settle for wild card as Dallas can beat Washington for the division.
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that game was highly entertaining, though on so many fronts there was unbelievable ineptitude, for what are to be two high seeded playoff teams
go for 2 pt conversion from the 7 yd line? wtf?
don't report properly for tackle eligible? wtf?
cowboys let lions march down the field unimpeded with 1:46 on the clock? wtf?
dak throws long and out of bounds on second down instead of eating clock? wtf?
wtf?
It was total bullshit by the ref. The player reported eligible after Goff sent him over to report. The video shows him reporting to the ref. The ref later said the other tackle reported as eligible. The Lyons are screaming claiming the ref is lying and he made a game changing screw up. The Lyons successfully made the two point try and won the game only to have it stolen by the refs. Another reason to hire full time refs with a wholesale revision of the rules. NFL football is broken.
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It was total bullshit by the ref. The player reported eligible after Goff sent him over to report. The video shows him reporting to the ref. The ref later said the other tackle reported as eligible. The Lyons are screaming claiming the ref is lying and he made a game changing screw up. The Lyons successfully made the two point try and won the game only to have it stolen by the refs. Another reason to hire full time refs with a wholesale revision of the rules. NFL football is broken.
there was purposeful subterfuge on the lions' part in how the linemen reporting was done on that play, sending two linemen at the ref, with the non-ball catching guy saying he was eligible too... all this to fool the cowboys db's on that side. regarding WHO was actually eligible... this is clearly explained by mike florio ... https://youtu.be/IGa2d3BFMcI?si=Lt1prnr3Dke7wJBw
momentus, playoff berth changing call snafu without a doubt, but we cannot and must not pin it entirely on the ref in this case.... detroit had a big hand in this major fail, for which they pay a big price
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Wow, sounds like it was a crazy weekend ! Kinda glad I didn't see a game !
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Wow, sounds like it was a crazy weekend ! Kinda glad I didn't see a game !
This is what the NFL wants. Two AFC and four NFC teams on the outside still can possibly get into the playoffs. Most of the games in the final weekend have playoff implications.
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This is what the NFL wants. Two AFC and four NFC teams on the outside still can possibly get into the playoffs. Most of the games in the final weekend have playoff implications.
ahhhhh, no, allow me to help you with that....... 'This is what Vegas wants' ..... :wink:
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there was purposeful subterfuge on the lions' part in how the linemen reporting was done on that play, sending two linemen at the ref, with the non-ball catching guy saying he was eligible too... all this to fool the cowboys db's on that side. regarding WHO was actually eligible... this is clearly explained by mike florio ... https://youtu.be/IGa2d3BFMcI?si=Lt1prnr3Dke7wJBw
momentus, playoff berth changing call snafu without a doubt, but we cannot and must not pin it entirely on the ref in this case.... detroit had a big hand in this major fail, for which they pay a big price
Campbell notified the refs that this would be in the playbook, this wasn't a surprise to them. This was an obvious case of referee incompetence. I like Florio and watch PFT regularly, but he's often a pompous ass who gets it wrong as often as not. But, the big question to me after some reflection, why in the hell didn't Dan Campbell kick the extra point after the penalty?!? He's sure to go to overtime and has a 50/50 shot at victory. Nobody seems to be blaming the coach for a stupid decision after the penalty. Watching Florio right now and he says a revisit of the two point play is up next after the break. This means he got a lot of blowback on line for his stupid opinion and wants to reply.
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Arguably the Marque Sunday nite game of the season this weekend. Bills win and they're the #2 seed, lose and they could potentially not make the playoffs ! crazy !!
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It looks like the Giants woke up.
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It looks like the Giants woke up.
After sleeping on it...it always nice to beat the Eagles!
We can get an impact player at #6 in the draft...we really need to nail this pick!
It’s tough being a Giants fan the last 10 years.
But I’ll always support Big Blue!!
George
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They've had their ups and downs; eventually, they'll bounce back.
Lots of personnel changes coming up in the near future.
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Huge Bills win! They get the #2 seed!
This means McDermott sticking around for a while..
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Funny with the two Pennsylvania teams in roughly the same position, but the fans looking in from opposite perspectives. The Steelers are rejoicing that they made it in, any playoff appearance is a victory regardless of the results. The Eagles look at the same position as an abject failure, by not winning a division they were in complete control of in November. It's all perspective.
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Huge Bills win! They get the #2 seed!
This means McDermott sticking around for a while..
IMO McDermott is going nowhere. Even if things did not work out. How about giving Sean some credit after their 6 and 6 position. To make a run, they had some heavy teams to get by, and they did. Josh was a beast again in the 2nd half last night. As usual, reduce the turnovers and the Bills easily win this game. Again Dolphins struggle with good teams. Bills in the AFC final. I'm feeling it.
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IMO McDermott is going nowhere. Even if things did not work out. How about giving Sean some credit after their 6 and 6 position. To make a run, they had some heavy teams to get by, and they did. Josh was a beast again in the 2nd half last night. As usual, reduce the turnovers and the Bills easily win this game. Again Dolphins struggle with good teams. Bills in the AFC final. I'm feeling it.
Ok, as an anti-McDermott Bills fan I'll give you his moment in the sun. But I for one want nothing less than a SB appearance and preferably a victory !
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Funny with the two Pennsylvania teams in roughly the same position, but the fans looking in from opposite perspectives. The Steelers are rejoicing that they made it in, any playoff appearance is a victory regardless of the results. The Eagles look at the same position as an abject failure, by not winning a division they were in complete control of in November. It's all perspective.
Eagles fans are a 'strange lot' as we all know. Regardless, when was the last time a team started out 10 -1 only to go in the toilet as bad as they have ? I can't remember a season ?? But then it is Philly............remember the '64 Phillies !!
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ok now the table is set -- this is gonna be tons o fun!
steelers back their way in...
what an implosion at jax, and pending implosion to come in philly
fish pack bucs steeler are in, but they should be toast by next monday, one and done
texans-browns will be great fun, and rams-lions best storyline...
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Ok, as an anti-McDermott Bills fan I'll give you his moment in the sun. But I for one want nothing less than a SB appearance and preferably a victory !
SB for sure. Now I know how the Red Sox fans felt before winning their first WS in 2004 (last one being in 1918). When JA is on his game he can carry a team anywhere. I do agree McDermott needs to step up his late game decision making and pre-game planning. It appears (arguably) the Bills' talent alone is the reason for their run(s). Let's hope Sean gets "Belichick" inspired on the current playoff run.
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Eagles fans are a 'strange lot' as we all know. Regardless, when was the last time a team started out 10 -1 only to go in the toilet as bad as they have ? I can't remember a season ?? But then it is Philly............remember the '64 Phillies !!
Easy, the Steelers only a couple years ago were 11-0 before a total collapse with one and done against the Browns in the playoffs. Big Ben's next to last year.
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SB for sure. Now I know how the Red Sox fans felt before winning their first WS in 2004 (last one being in 1918). When JA is on his game he can carry a team anywhere. I do agree McDermott needs to step up his late game decision making and pre-game planning. It appears (arguably) the Bills' talent alone is the reason for their run(s). Let's hope Sean gets "Belichick" inspired on the current playoff run.
Yes and hope I will. With that being said should the Bills make it to the SB, I will be going to the movies ! This 70 year old heart can't handle another loss, LOL !
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Nfl playoffs schedule.
Saturday
Clowns vs Moocows
Dullphins vs Chefs
Squealers vs Jills
Sunday
Puckers vs Cowgirls
Lambs vs Loins
Beagles vs Ducks
Forty whiners and Ravings on bye
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Nfl playoffs schedule.
Saturday
Clowns vs Moocows
Dullphins vs Chefs
Squealers vs Jills
Sunday
Puckers vs Cowgirls
Lambs vs Loins
Beagles vs Ducks
Forty whiners and Ravings on bye
try again, your schedule is off .......
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Chiefs vs Dolphins game cancelled because of lack of interest in Peacock
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That's going to be one hell of a cold game with the Chiefs.
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Bill Belichick, Pete Carroll, and Nick Sabin are all gone. Sabin is likely headed to TV, the other two who knows.
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Bill Belichick, Pete Carroll, and Nick Sabin are all gone. Sabin is likely headed to TV, the other two who knows.
All good things must ultimately end.
Very interesting how all three endings were different...
Belichick will definitely be coaching somewhere in 2024.
George
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Local Seattle news mentioned Pete Carroll is remaining with the Seahawks in an advisory role, whatever that is. Also heard speculations on Belichick eying the Titans or the Falcons...maybe.
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That's going to be one hell of a cold game with the Chiefs.
lake effect snow possible in Bflo(Orchard Park) :thumb:
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Local Seattle news mentioned Pete Carroll is remaining with the Seahawks in an advisory role, whatever that is. Also heard speculations on Belichick eying the Titans or the Falcons...maybe.
would be hilarious if new england and tennessee simply swapped bill and mike ... :duh:
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It'd be nice to be able to watch the Bills vs Chiefs game. The possibility of my subscribing to Peacock is zero.
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It'd be nice to be able to watch the Bills vs Chiefs game. The possibility of my subscribing to Peacock is zero.
don't get ahead of yourself, Bflo better beat P'burg first ! and if the Bills and Chiefs meet it will be in Bflo, not KC
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Yes. I should have said Dolphins/Chiefs.
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Bills/Steelers game moved to Monday @ 4:30 p.m.
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Guess I won't be watching the Chiefs game.
The NFL has gotten way too greedy, I'll see the final score sooner or later.
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Bills/Steelers game moved to Monday @ 4:30 p.m.
sad, just another sign how 'soft' we have become. 'Real' Bills fans would have loved it ! :icon_lol:
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Guess I won't be watching the Chiefs game.
The NFL has gotten way too greedy, I'll see the final score sooner or later.
X2 and I agree on the greed statement as well !!
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sign up for Instacart.com...free 2 weeks of Peacock..no payment method or credit card needed... :D
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gene9p,
Done, thanks!
I was thinking I wouldn't mind seeing the Browns in the Super Bowl and Flacco throws two interceptions in a row.
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Browns got beat! Browns playoff misery continues...
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Just got done snow blowing my driveway, 8:30 PM. Round one. Good decision to move the Bills game to Monday. I do feel for those who made plans for tomorrow. The best decision was made however.
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texans and cj stroud are for real... moved the ball effectively against a very stout brown's defense... and texans' d held up as old man flacco crashes back down to earth ... impressive stuff from demeco's squad
as for them fish in frozen arrowhead, well it is what we expected when a contender/wannabe meets a champ, right? kc still had trouble getting td's in the red zone, but miami was simply outclassed in tough as nails playoff football conditions by a team that has been there, has the pedigree ...
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Cowgirls down 21-0! Are the fans chanting "Fire McCarthy" yet.
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Jerry Jones doesn't look very happy.
When the sidekick commentator actually started talking over the Referee I had to turn the volume off.
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27-0! Beatdown!!
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(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=260649)
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How about those Cowgirls???
I’ll take this as a very nice bday present!
Thank you Packers! :thumb:
George
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Lions pull it off..break 32 year playoff curse.
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All of Detroit can't believe it.
Good for them.
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Cowgirls get their ass handed to them, oh happy day. Belichick to Dallas? Hmmm. In support of zero sum game I don't even care if the Steelers and Eagles lose today such is the overwhelming joy. Funny, I like the players, Prescott is a great underdog story and Parsons is a fabulous player, but the team can lose every game for all I care.
Nice to see Detroit win a playoff game. Interesting to see how far Houston can go, quite a Cinderella story.
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Yes it was a great day in Dallas! I agree with you about the players, likable and oozing with talent. But I lost respect way back with the “Americas Team” sh*+! My brother and a few friends are ardent Dallas fans. How do you grow up in South Jersey and become a Dallas fan? Must be some kind of recessive gene affected by a weak mental capacity? :dunno: Still a mystery to me! :duh: Sent this text to a bunch of Cowpucky fans after the game:
“When is the Prescott, Lamb, Pollard, McCarthy tee time tomorrow?”
No answers yet guess they couldn’t get one? :nono:
Hoping my Iggles wake up today and remember what they do for a living?
So far a good weekend of football congrats to the Chiefs, Texans, Packers,and Lions!
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Not for the Chiefs?
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Not for the Chiefs?
Oops missed that one still on my first cup.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzZ8aTSsvaW/?igsh=cnN4N253ODM2cnUz
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Interesting to see NFL games played in brutally cold weather (grew up watching some Packers, Minnesota and Bills games in the snow for sure) - reminded me of a few Grey Cups up here in Canada.
My wife and daughters have a newfound love of the sport due to Taylor Swift, so they are KC fans. I will take any and all football on TV ever after 20 years!
Playoffs looking to be an interesting run this year.
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Steelers look like SHIT !!fumbles , an interception in the end zone !!! Slack / weak defenses
Going be a looooong day .
How about Greenbay !! Love looks great . They decimated the Cowgirls !!
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The Steelers don't look like they showed up (aside from one series).
I'm curious to see how the Beagles do.
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Bills are looking extremely capable. Not over-the-top, destroyer mode wins, but competent. With the run game in tact, yeah quite doable next week Vs. KC. Interesting team.
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This from Adam Schefter:
"Chiefs at Bills next Sunday will be Patrick Mahomes’ first-ever road playoff game. All of Mahomes’ 15 career playoff games have taken place in Kansas City or a Super Bowl."
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This from Adam Schefter:
"Chiefs at Bills next Sunday will be Patrick Mahomes’ first-ever road playoff game. All of Mahomes’ 15 career playoff games have taken place in Kansas City or a Super Bowl."
Everything that the Bills and the Mafia wanted… it’s going to be Epic.
Bills should have ran away with this one, but once again they make errors that allow the competition to get back into the game.
Still, they are the team to beat…
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Beagles losing..Will Siriani be fired? I feel bad for Kelce.
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Beagles losing..Will Siriani be fired? I feel bad for Kelce.
eagles' unraveling is now complete... outcoached and outplayed by the 9-8 bucs and baker mayfield, what shame! - leaving jalen back there in empty sets all game with all the heat coming again and again was just insane... i think siriani simply adds zero value as a head coach -- but how tough is the nfl? maybe couple plays from winning the super bowl last year, now the whole house burns to the ground
as for the bills, nice win, but the steelers really didn't belong in the playoffs, backed in due to jags' own implosion -- bills and chiefs both highly flawed, will be an interesting contest next week, in fact all 4 will be great games
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eagles' unraveling is now complete... outcoached and outplayed by the 9-8 bucs and baker mayfield, what shame! - leaving jalen back there in empty sets all game with all the heat coming again and again was just insane... i think siriani simply adds zero value as a head coach -- but how tough is the nfl? maybe couple plays from winning the super bowl last year, now the whole house burns to the ground
as for the bills, nice win, but the steelers really didn't belong in the playoffs, backed in due to jags' own implosion -- bills and chiefs both highly flawed, will be an interesting contest next week, in fact all 4 will be great games
Hilarious. You do realize that all but one team loses in this and they aren't totally dismantled, right? And that the Eagles were without two major weapons on offense. The big issue with the Eagles isn't their team, it's that they lost both coordinators and haven't found quality replacements. They looked bad when they were winning. Hurts was badly injured for nearly the entire season and battled through. Disappointing for sure, but they're far from sunk.
The bills will have way more to handle than Mason Rudolph and the Steelers next week. Should be a great game, looking forward to it. And for the teams moving on you all have Baltimore and San Francisco rested and ready.
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Bills are looking extremely capable. Not over-the-top, destroyer mode wins, but competent. With the run game in tact, yeah quite doable next week Vs. KC. Interesting team.
Linebacking core is injury mess, in Bflo or not, I suspect Mahonnes will be licking his chops. Regardless, fingers crossed for a Bills win.
As for the Eagles, one of THE most pathetic performances I've ever watched. The shot of the Iggle fans at the game with paper bags over their heads was perfect. The team 'at present' is an absolute disgrace !!!
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As for the Eagles, one of THE most pathetic performances I've ever watched. The shot of the Iggle fans at the game with paper bags over their heads was perfect. The team 'at present' is an absolute disgrace !!!
So what do you call all the teams sitting home this past weekend? One assumes they're all more pathetic than the Eagles. This year the Eagles beat the Bills, KC, Dallas, do they all suck? The Bills and many other teams have never won a Superbowl, do they all suck? Are they pathetic? :duh:
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So what do you call all the teams sitting home this past weekend? One assumes they're all more pathetic than the Eagles. This year the Eagles beat the Bills, KC, Dallas, do they all suck? The Bills and many other teams have never won a Superbowl, do they all suck? Are they pathetic? :duh:
No, my reference was to last nites game. But as you and I exchanged posts a few days back, their collapse(like P'burg did) from a 10-1 start and given the fact they went to the SB last year is without question epic !
Last nites game and the absolute pathetic plays on defense, inability to 'tackle' is but one example. This AM our local talking heads on Philly TV, some of which are blaming coaching ???? Total BS, you're in the NFL for Gods sake, should have learned to tackle before you get to this level ! But no, so many of these clowns want their 5 sec of highlight fame to be show with the 'big hit'. Just but one example of why I haven't wasted my time watching a complete game in many a year !
As for your question with regards to the teams they beat during the regular season.........'old news', meaningless !
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I want to see how Houston does, they were just astonishing the other week.
Will the Ravens beat them up or are they simply that good?
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I want to see how Houston does, they were just astonishing the other week.
Will the Ravens beat them up or are they simply that good?
Fingers crossed for a good game !
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Chiefs vs Bills..CBS..not Peacock..thank God....
big Chiefs fan ..but..the Bills may prove to be too good for them this year.
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"Linebacking core is injury mess, in Bflo or not, I suspect Mahonnes will be licking his chops. Regardless, fingers crossed for a Bills win."
Given the challenges the Bills defense has been through this year, their production has been remarkable. Especially the last seven weeks. This team feeds off Josh Allen. Josh feeds off them. Buffalo has proven they can beat KC. They'll get it done. Once JA gets in beast mode, it's over.
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No, my reference was to last nites game. But as you and I exchanged posts a few days back, their collapse(like P'burg did) from a 10-1 start and given the fact they went to the SB last year is without question epic !
Last nites game and the absolute pathetic plays on defense, inability to 'tackle' is but one example. This AM our local talking heads on Philly TV, some of which are blaming coaching ???? Total BS, you're in the NFL for Gods sake, should have learned to tackle before you get to this level ! But no, so many of these clowns want their 5 sec of highlight fame to be show with the 'big hit'. Just but one example of why I haven't wasted my time watching a complete game in many a year !
As for your question with regards to the teams they beat during the regular season.........'old news', meaningless !
Well, I would disagree. There's an old axium that Superbowl losers always collapse the following year. So no, it's not epic, I believe you yourself said they played crappy to 10-1, they just found ways to win, and you were right. I think the Lions were 1-5 to start, did they have an epic collapse then? My contention is that's it's football, every game counts to a total when you arrive at the end of the season. Slumps and streaks matter during the season, but as you noted, that's ancient history. It's a new season, if the Eagles or Steelers had won it would be a whole new story, just as it actually is for Houston.
It is the coaching regarding the Eagles. You're not wrong, most of the time it is the Willy's and Joe's, but the Eagles are different. They had fabulously innovative coordinators that are now successful head coaches and they weren't replaced. After the 49ers game the players stopped believing that the current staff had the slightest idea how to run either the offense or defense. Hurts is the ultimate team diplomat and it was sneaking through with him. Siriani needs to prove he can attract top quality coaching.
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Hilarious. You do realize that all but one team loses in this and they aren't totally dismantled, right? And that the Eagles were without two major weapons on offense. The big issue with the Eagles isn't their team, it's that they lost both coordinators and haven't found quality replacements. They looked bad when they were winning. Hurts was badly injured for nearly the entire season and battled through. Disappointing for sure, but they're far from sunk.
i suppose this is the great thing about fervent fandom... people otherwise with brains can't admit to what they (and everyone else) are seeing with their own eyes... :lol: :duh:
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Well, I would disagree. There's an old axium that Superbowl losers always collapse the following year. So no, it's not epic, I believe you yourself said they played crappy to 10-1, they just found ways to win, and you were right. I think the Lions were 1-5 to start, did they have an epic collapse then? My contention is that's it's football, every game counts to a total when you arrive at the end of the season. Slumps and streaks matter during the season, but as you noted, that's ancient history. It's a new season, if the Eagles or Steelers had won it would be a whole new story, just as it actually is for Houston.
It is the coaching regarding the Eagles. You're not wrong, most of the time it is the Willy's and Joe's, but the Eagles are different. They had fabulously innovative coordinators that are now successful head coaches and they weren't replaced. After the 49ers game the players stopped believing that the current staff had the slightest idea how to run either the offense or defense. Hurts is the ultimate team diplomat and it was sneaking through with him. Siriani needs to prove he can attract top quality coaching.
Living outside Philly now it's interesting to hear all the media BS circulating about after this debacle of a season. Yes, plenty of blame to go around for sure, including upper mg'mt. But, regardless of 'coaching', EVERYONE in the this area is in agreement with regards to the Monday nite collapse, the players DID NOT execute ! Regardless of coaching decisions. Did the players loos confidence / respect for their coaching staff ? Can't argue with you on that one, but again, help me with the definition of the word 'professional' ? :wink:
I know you're an old fart like me, so you remember when great players didn't get carried away with celebratory BS like they do today. Jim Brown, played nine seasons, never missed a game and what did he do when he crossed the goal line ? he dropped the ball !!!
Seeing that Bflo is my 'home team', sure I'll pull for them, but I won't loose a moment of sleep when they bow out in the next week or two............
Pitchers and catchers report in less than 6 weeks..........go Phillies !!
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Pitchers and catchers report in less than 6 weeks..........go Phillies !!
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Let the games begin
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i suppose this is the great thing about fervent fandom... people otherwise with brains can't admit to what they (and everyone else) are seeing with their own eyes... :lol: :duh:
I suppose this is what you get when you listen to TV pundits instead of thinking for yourself. I've been consistent throughout the year in my opinion of the Eagles and where their problems living up to their potential lie.
The NFL is broken. On purpose. It was broken by themselves in a quixotic search for mutually exclusive goals of team parity and increased scoring. The owners all wanted a chance at a Superbowl trophy so now we have mostly mediocre teams hovering around 500 and almost half the teams getting into the playoffs, combined with a QB driven game dominated by a constant search for the next Brady or Mahomes. The same thing happens with coaches, a never ending churn of coordinators and position coaches moving from team to team leaving players in their wake trying to adjust to new systems each year.
That's what happened to the Eagles. They had brilliant offensive and defensive coordinators who devised game plans that adjusted at the line of scrimmage, not at half time or after the series on the bench. After one season of success those guys left for head coaching jobs and the replacements don't understand how it works, so tried to go back to old style playbooks. The players aren't stupid, they know it's a joke, and finally they stop buying into the baloney. You are going to get hurt tackling players in the NFL. You might play the next down, but there's a price to be paid with every play. If you're a professional looking to maximize your earnings you make a business decision if it's worth the cost for your bosses who are going to be gone next year. Don't even get me started on the referees.
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I suppose this is what you get when you listen to TV pundits instead of thinking for yourself. I've been consistent throughout the year in my opinion of the Eagles and where their problems living up to their potential lie.
The NFL is broken. On purpose. It was broken by themselves in a quixotic search for mutually exclusive goals of team parity and increased scoring. The owners all wanted a chance at a Superbowl trophy so now we have mostly mediocre teams hovering around 500 and almost half the teams getting into the playoffs, combined with a QB driven game dominated by a constant search for the next Brady or Mahomes. The same thing happens with coaches, a never ending churn of coordinators and position coaches moving from team to team leaving players in their wake trying to adjust to new systems each year.
That's what happened to the Eagles. They had brilliant offensive and defensive coordinators who devised game plans that adjusted at the line of scrimmage, not at half time or after the series on the bench. After one season of success those guys left for head coaching jobs and the replacements don't understand how it works, so tried to go back to old style playbooks. The players aren't stupid, they know it's a joke, and finally they stop buying into the baloney. You are going to get hurt tackling players in the NFL. You might play the next down, but there's a price to be paid with every play. If you're a professional looking to maximize your earnings you make a business decision if it's worth the cost for your bosses who are going to be gone next year. Don't even get me started on the referees.
All solid, valid points :thumb:
Like most things in life, if in doubt, 'follow the money' !
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I've got my answer, the Texans come up short when they meet up with a really good team.
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Greenbay/ SF game is awesome !!
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Whoa! Whoomp there it is! :o
Time to enjoy some treats from B Patisserie
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Packers SF a close game! 49ers gut it out.
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Tampa and Mayfield will just not go away. I can't get the game, but I have been checking on ESPN and every time Detroit scores, Tampa answers. :lol:
Edit:Until the Bucs gave up back to back td's. Oh well. :lol:
JCarney
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Loins to NFC championship..where they will probably get carved up by 49ers.
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Loins to NFC championship..where they will probably get carved up by 49ers.
Not necessarily. It was Purdy bad when he almost had two interceptions for pick 6’s. Hope that was a wake up call for the Niners. However I’ll be looking forward to celebratory banana cream tarts and morning buns from Tartine Bakery SF next.
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Bills lose....lol
Ghost of Scott Norwood came back to haunt Buffalo.
Wide Right part 2.
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Valiant effort by the Bills, I thought they were going to win it at the end. Just too many dropped passes and of course, the Buffalo football motto, Wide Right. The fans looked visibly wounded.
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Those were both really good games.
I wonder if the Chiefs can get through Baltimore?
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I’m bummed the Bills lost. I’m a Ninerz fan when paying attention to football but in the back of my mind I was thinking how much I’d like to see Detroit and Buffalo in the Super Bowl.
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I was sad to see the Bills lose, I was pulling for them. My wife and daughter were elated to see KC continue, as they're all in on the whole Swift thing.
A Bills vs Lions SB would be the closest possible 2 NFL teams to Toronto, so that would have been fun.
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Lifelong Lions fan here. Tough task ahead on the road in San Fran. But we are enjoying the ride never the less. No matter what happens I think the Ravens are going to be for anyone to beat rest of the way.
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what wonderful games all weekend... kc buf another one for the ages, what a magnificent game
agree with many of the sentiments expressed
ravens look like they are unbeatable... just much better than anyone else... defense is fierce, qb seems unstoppable
49ers 'best in nfc' but sooo many issues, sooo wobbly - they sure played well enough to lose to green bay
detroit is such a nice story, great to see that town get a treat in this terrific team, no matter how far they get this year
bills perenially snakebit, josh was brilliant but just not enough -- this was the year they should've taken down a very vulnerable chiefs team, but alas... never count out big andy and #15... what we watched was 100% championship pedigree on display :bowdown:
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Cinderella is Detroit this year and has us wondering when does the clock strike midnight. The Niners this year were the unbreakable juggernaut, then the very beatable frauds, then back to juggernaut, then back to a team that almost lost to GB. Who knows what shows up on Sunday.
The anti Swifties are hilarious. Who cares who watches games and who pop stars root for. A Titanic meeting of the team that's been in the last six AFC conference championships and the upstart Ravens is a fantastic story. However I'm reminded of the advice from Rocky, the first one. No women before the fight, they rob your legs!
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ha ha ha ha
indeed... the circle of life in buffalo new york... pity them sufferin' fans
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I'll throw in with the Ravens. Watched 2 or 3 games this year with them. Very impressed. Just a solid team all around. The others will need perfect games to beat them if they're on their game.
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ha ha ha ha
indeed... the circle of life in buffalo new york... pity them sufferin' fans
yep, Buffalo & Cleveland ..... two mistakes on a Lake !
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Question as you guys are the "Pros from Dover" on this topic - So why did Allen attempt a TD pass into fairly tight coverage when he had two receivers open on the left side of the field both past the first down marker, with approx 1:50 on the clock ? Particularly with the somewhat questionable efficiency of their place kicker. Was that a bench call, or just a missed/bad decision in the heat of the moment by Josh. I was rooting for them, but congrats to KC, on that day they were the better team.
Agree that it will take a lot to handle Lamar & the Ravens, here's wishing the Lions a win.
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Question as you guys are the "Pros from Dover" on this topic - So why did Allen attempt a TD pass into fairly tight coverage when he had two receivers open on the left side of the field both past the first down marker, with approx 1:50 on the clock ? Particularly with the somewhat questionable efficiency of their place kicker. Was that a bench call, or just a missed/bad decision in the heat of the moment by Josh.
i have no idea but my best guess is the latter... josh allen clearly plays largely instinctively and he likes to roll the dice... immensely talented but hardly a thinking-man's qb...
furthermore when a play is sent in over the helmet radio is called, the qb goes through his scanning of receivers and his choices real time based on the coverage that evolves ... the play call doesn't dictate where he goes with ball
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Question as you guys are the "Pros from Dover" on this topic - So why did Allen attempt a TD pass into fairly tight coverage when he had two receivers open on the left side of the field both past the first down marker, with approx 1:50 on the clock ? Particularly with the somewhat questionable efficiency of their place kicker. Was that a bench call, or just a missed/bad decision in the heat of the moment by Josh. I was rooting for them, but congrats to KC, on that day they were the better team.
Agree that it will take a lot to handle Lamar & the Ravens, here's wishing the Lions a win.
Allen was facing pressure from Chris Jones on his left side. That closes off the options on that side if the defense is right in your face as Jones was. If you can dodge that pressure it's the opposite and opens up the side that the rush is coming from, but Jones was bum rushing the O lineman into Allen's lap.
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Thanks gents :thumb: Somehow I'd missed the left side pressure, surprising given the number of cameras, & replays, must have been distracted.
Thanks for the 'inside' info jj, wasn't aware of that bit.
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Chiefs/Lions?
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I’d like to see that match. Ravens picked a hell of a time to play their worst game of the season.
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Tartine Bakery Guerrero Street, SF
Will this be a sweet one?
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Lions gonna Lion..blow 17 pt lead and now down by 10 :duh:
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How sweet it is.
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Chefs and Whiners..rematch of 2019 super bowl
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Lions gonna Lion..blow 17 pt lead and now down by 10 :duh:
:slap:
My Lions..
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Yep, the 49ers woke up.
The Chiefs are going to have their hands full but I think they'll do it.
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Two great playoff football games. My only dog in the fight were my pool picks from my two decade old office pool where none of us have worked for many years. I got all four games right last week and picked the Niners and Chiefs this week. But I was actually rooting for the Lions for no more reason than they played so tough. Then they didn't, giving up seventeen points in eight minutes. Umm, Cinderella, that clock is striking midnight.
Ravens-Chiefs was another great game. Two very well matched teams, two Hall of Famers at QB, the difference being the tight end position in both receiving and blocking. Kelce outpaced the returning Andrews by a wide margin and proved to be the difference in the final score. This must have driven the people upset about a certain female pop star crazy, especially seeing her and that player she's friends with having PDAs on the sidelines after the game.
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That always struck me as strange, a bunch of old men going on about a pop star whose audience seems to be 20 year old girls.
Your girlfriend comes to a game? That's nice, back to the game.
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championship pedigree on full display
knowing how to win at the highest level is evidently a learnt skill... being there before helps, immensely, to cope with the pressure of performing when it is all on the line
lotta red and white on the field in 2 weeks time!
lamar crumbles and is denied again... ooooof :duh:
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I've watched the Lions since the 1950s. So, I learned early on to never bet for or against them as they will break your heart and wallet. I continued to watch but stopped hoping for them, for good I thought, after Barry Sanders exited. However, after beating the Packers last year in the final game to spoil their season, and wipe the smugness off of Rogers' face, I got hooked on the Lions once again. But after yesterday, it is clear they will not make it all the way to the Superbowl any time soon. As ULTRA AMAZINGLY UNBELIEVABLY TERRIFIC as DC has been for this VERY talented and gritty team, his limitations at understanding situational football (scoring, not just the number of points but the number of scores + field position + momentum + overall perspective of the situation in two critical periods of the game) is glaringly obvious. That was the last Lions game I'll ever watch. Ever ... GO WINGS! :roll:
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Red Wings..original six..I saw Gordie Howe playing for them..yup..I am that old..lol..Howe and Delvechio each scored in a 3-3 tie with the Rangers at MSG...the very old MSG...
Surprised but excited that the Chiefs are going to the bowl again....Niners were explosive in the 2nd half...too bad we have to wait two weeks to play...Go Chiefs!!!
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How is that I , a football moron , absolutely knew to kick both field goals , instead of going for it on 4th down ?
And the coach who is making ten million a year , had no clue .
Atrocious coaching !!!
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How is that I , a football moron , absolutely knew to kick both field goals , instead of going for it on 4th down ?
And the coach who is making ten million a year , had no clue .
Atrocious coaching !!!
To be fair one of those was a dropped pass. I think the difference was first half momentum wasn’t there for the second half attempts.
I’m a fair weather Ninerz fan and believe they benefited from a lot of luck the past couple of games the Chiefs won’t let them get away with.
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To be fair one of those was a dropped pass. I think the difference was first half momentum wasn’t there for the second half attempts.
I’m a fair weather Ninerz fan and believe they benefited from a lot of luck the past couple of games the Chiefs won’t let them get away with.
i agree very much with this
for the two past playoff games the niners were NOT ready at the snap... it took them till mid 4th quarter against the pack and till the second half against the lions to get it in gear
this will NOT work against the chiefs, who will be ready to rumble from kick off and who KNOW HOW TO WIN ONCE THEY HAVE A LEAD ... they are and have been the best coached team in playoffs and the gap above second best in this regard is humongous!!!
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https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/09/sport/lamar-jackson-nfl-mvp-spt/index.html
It was nice to see Flacco get the recognition as well.
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Here we goooooo....
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The Chiefs aren't getting much going.
I think the second half will seem like a different game.
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2nd half more of the same..Chiefs kicker their mvp
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Now each team exchanges TDs. Now it's getting interesting.
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Game tied..6 min left!
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3 pt 49ers lead. Game in Mahomes hands!
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Heading to OT. Whew!
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CHIEFS! What a game
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The Chiefs woke up.
That wound up being a really good game.
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A Superbowl overtime, hard to get any better than that. A defensive struggle throughout the game that had SF dominating the first half with the Chief's catching up for the tie. What I didn't know was that the overtime is two periods long and KC wasn't running out of time at the end what I thought was one period of overtime. The rules in the season say during overtime you have an opportunity to possess the ball if a touchdown isn't scored, but doesn't mean you get a right to score if time runs out. So if I understand this correctly if the overtime period ends with San Francisco ahead by three points it's not over, the Chiefs still get a guaranteed chance to score. That doesn't seem fair, overtime is over, you're ahead, but you don't win. I understand if it's a tie there's another OT period, but if OT is over and you're ahead you win, apparently not in the new NFL. Now it didn't happen that way as KC scored in the last seconds of the first OT period, which ended the OT period. Knowing these rules SF should have absolutely gone for it on fourth down instead of kicking the field goal.
And Usher was horrible, terrible, awful, embarrassingly so. It looked like something from a middle school parents night performance. I tried to watch it and just had to go do something else.
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Agree with Letiitroll98's assessment including the OT rules. Great game but the first half was certainly a mess. Happy KC won but I wasn't against the 49ers just wanted KC to get back-to-back wins. Will they do it again next year? :dunno:
As to the halftime shows, I get why they have them, so the teams can get a longer rest than the regular season halftime. Bwa Ha Ha Ha...no it isn't, it's about money. I just hit the mute button and fix a snack. Luckily the weather died out so I could BBQ some Kalbi ribs'
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way too many commercials disrupted the flow of the game in the first half. It seemed to affect the Chiefs more than the 9ers but it was hard to keep watching . I avoided Usher and watched a re-run family feud..lol. The 2nd half had less commercials but most importantly they allowed the game to be played with very few interruptions. Finally I felt like I was watching a football game and not some advertising spectacle. The blocked PAT came back to haunt the 9ers as the Chiefs kicked a FG to force OT. Under pressure ,Mahomes was at his best. The drive to tie and then the TD as the first OT was closing out was as great as any past QB has ever done. Tom Brady included. I've been a Chiefs fan since my boyhood days going back to the 60's when there was two leagues.I suffered the first ever SB defeat and then went on to celebrate their win in 1970. It was 50 long years b4 they won again..and now..wow..and that ot win yesterday..WOW. I don't know how long this will last but you know I am enjoying the moment.
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way too many commercials disrupted the flow of the game in the first half. It seemed to affect the Chiefs more than the 9ers but it was hard to keep watching . I avoided Usher and watched a re-run family feud..lol. The 2nd half had less commercials but most importantly they allowed the game to be played with very few interruptions. Finally I felt like I was watching a football game and not some advertising spectacle. The blocked PAT came back to haunt the 9ers as the Chiefs kicked a FG to force OT. Under pressure ,Mahomes was at his best. The drive to tie and then the TD as the first OT was closing out was as great as any past QB has ever done. Tom Brady included. I've been a Chiefs fan since my boyhood days going back to the 60's when there was two leagues.I suffered the first ever SB defeat and then went on to celebrate their win in 1970. It was 50 long years b4 they won again..and now..wow..and that ot win yesterday..WOW. I don't know how long this will last but you know I am enjoying the moment.
There aren't more planned game stops for the Super Bowl than a regular game - commercials didn't impact the game flow (1st or 2nd half).
What is different at the Super Bowl compared to all other games is that halftime is roughly twice as long as normal ~13 mins vs. 30 mins) to allow for the halftime show.
George
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I also avoided the halftime show based on past experience.
The last 3 periods on the field were worth the hype, imo. I wasn't a 100% Mahomes fan until this win. I think his mastery of the field reminds me of Joe Montana, another true money player w/o smoke and mirrors. KC beat a couple of very good teams to get the trophy this year.
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no more planned stoppages however the commercial timeout was so much longer and that DID effect the flow of the game. Sorry bud...
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A couple of key plays. Both teams made mistakes that neither really took advantage of but overall a great game.
There is no solace in losing but as a Niners fan I have to be satisfied that the Chiefs beat them. They didn’t beat themselves. They played a lot better than the playoffs and Purdy was remarkably poised.
There’s no arguing that Mahomes and the rest of the cast and crew make a great team. And they’re a team and city that ya gotta love.
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For most of the game it did look like the 49ers were going to win.
They had a really good game plan for keeping Mahones in check up until the end.
All I can say is the Chiefs are lucky they weren't facing the New York Football Giants, they woulda been toast!
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All I can say is the Chiefs are lucky they weren't facing the New York Football Giants, they woulda been toast!
Or the St Ignatius girls junior varsity team, about the same level as the NY squad. 🤣
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Watching PFT Live yesterday with Andy Reid as the guest brought up his take on Taylor Swift affecting the team positively or negatively. He said she is a nice person who likes to cook, so she made homemade pot pies for all the offensive lineman. It was all over at that point, the team was 100% behind her from that moment on. Today the hosts Mike Florio and Chris Sims brought that interview up as the blockbuster moment of the day's guests.
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Russell Wilson going to Pittsburgh in a deal very similar to highway robbery. They get Wilson for the league minimum. I can't remember a better deal for a team in NFL history.
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Eagles got a boost with Saquon Barkley.
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Eagles got a boost with Saquon Barkley.
Tiki Barber said Giants fans are livid that he signed with the Eagles. He was waiting for fans to start burning jerseys. PFT Live hosts couldn't understand that as the Giants obviously had no interest in signing him. They've screwed him over for years with franchise tags and one year deals, never committing to a long term deal, so why should he be loyal to the laundry. Barkley hasn't responded.
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Eagles got a boost with Saquon Barkley.
How about Derrick Henry and the Ravens!
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I hate to break the news to Tiki Barber but I don't know anyone who's livid over the deal.
Go for the money while you can, there's no telling how long your career will last.
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Eagles got a boost with Saquon Barkley.
Nice to see Saquan finally have a good offensive line in front of him.
Didn't have one at Penn State and didn't have one with the Giants that's for sure.
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Eagles got a boost with Saquon Barkley.
Jason Kelce is regretting his retirement and was talking about maybe coming back. Sadly he’s not going to.
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Wow, the Steelers set the league on it's ear with their moves. Russell Wilson and Justin Fields are the new QB room with Pickett traded to Philly. Then they get Patrick Queen from a division rival. Wonder what they'll do in the draft.
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I doubt few if any Bills fans will be shedding a tear ..........
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/oj-simpson-death-news-reaction-04-11-24/index.html
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I doubt few if any Bills fans will be shedding a tear ..........
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/oj-simpson-death-news-reaction-04-11-24/index.html
Interesting. You're the Bills expert of course, but was his marvelous football record tainted by the subsequent events? I have a radical conspiracy level view. I don't think he did it. If you look at the facts I think it points to his son committing the murders. I realize that's kinda crazy town, but if you have an open mind it's possible he willingly took the heat for his son. The popular view is that he got away with murder and so when he was railroaded on the fake robbery charges nobody cared, he was being punished for what he got away with. Regardless, a tragic story all around.
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Interesting. You're the Bills expert of course, but was his marvelous football record tainted by the subsequent events? I have a radical conspiracy level view. I don't think he did it. If you look at the facts I think it points to his son committing the murders. I realize that's kinda crazy town, but if you have an open mind it's possible he willingly took the heat for his son. The popular view is that he got away with murder and so when he was railroaded on the fake robbery charges nobody cared, he was being punished for what he got away with. Regardless, a tragic story all around.
The LA prosecution team was an absolute pathetic assemblage of half assed attorneys. As for his playing days, one of the best no doubt. I believe he was a bi-polar whack job. He lost the civil case and paid next to nothing, glad he's gone .........
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The LA prosecution team was an absolute pathetic assemblage of half assed attorneys. As for his playing days, one of the best no doubt. I believe he was a bi-polar whack job. He lost the civil case and paid next to nothing, glad he's gone .........
I agree with your post, what's her name made the jury and everyone watching hate her. I would note that civil trials have a much lower burden of proof, you must only believe by a 51% preponderance of the evidence, not beyond a reasonable doubt. That could have been done in this case without any evidence, such was the appetite for the public to convict him of something. I certainly thought he was guilty beyond any doubt at the time. It's hard to understand people who've had everything given to them since junior high, they are often different from us But as the years passed by so much didn't make sense. No one will know for sure..
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But as the years passed by so much didn't make sense. No one will know for sure..
heck, I'm 70 years old and still waiting to find out who killed JFK .......... :wink:
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heck, I'm 70 years old and still waiting to find out who killed JFK .......... :wink:
It was three Bulgarians brought in by the Chicago mob. Whether at the behest of the CIA or because they were pissed about Cuba is still unclear.
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It was three Bulgarians brought in by the Chicago mob. Whether at the behest of the CIA or because they were pissed about Cuba is still unclear.
No no no...it was the Borg, travelling back in time.
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Nah, the truth was revealed in the Red Dwarf episode. (British sci-fi comedy series.)