4b st...extra power

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SoundGame

Re: 4b st...extra power
« Reply #20 on: 20 Sep 2011, 05:12 pm »
And a partridge in a pear tree.... ;)

Mag

Re: 4b st...extra power
« Reply #21 on: 20 Sep 2011, 06:44 pm »
2B-LP 81/82
3B SST 174/174
3B SST2 173/173
3B ST ?

bjski

Re: 4b st...extra power
« Reply #22 on: 20 Sep 2011, 07:20 pm »
7BSST/2 650
7BSST/2 650

Just sent my dealer a check for a 5 channel 9BSST/2.I'm wondering what it will spec out at.The power ratings are slightly lower than 3BSST/2.

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Re: 4b st...extra power
« Reply #23 on: 20 Sep 2011, 07:38 pm »
So to summarize the top of the list from an output perspective:
 
Anonamemouse 4B 338 / 337
BrysTony  7B  649 / 664
1oldguy 28B 1300 / 1300

Since the 4BST was rated at 250 watts, then member Redbook wins the prize as top dog since his tested 311 watts is 24.4% above spec.

The 4BSST and the squared version spec is 300 watts, so 338 watts is a mere 12.6% above spec.

brucek

SoundGame

Re: 4b st...extra power
« Reply #24 on: 20 Sep 2011, 07:51 pm »
Since the 4BST was rated at 250 watts, then member Redbook wins the prize as top dog since his tested 311 watts is 24.4% above spec.

The 4BSST and the squared version spec is 300 watts, so 338 watts is a mere 12.6% above spec.

brucek

Agreed, in terms of overperformance.
 
I actually had a 3B-ST with a 120 w / ch spec. but bench tested at 160 w/ch, which is over 33% higher.  I just sold it to finance my 4B-SST2.
 
It seems that though Bryston still continues to conservatively rate their amps - they did even more so in the past with the ST series.  I believe it may relate to consumers becoming more spec. oriented / focused and so publishing a higher output spec. (as long as achieved in practice), perhaps became more effective in selling amps.  especially to those influenced by specs.

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Re: 4b st...extra power
« Reply #25 on: 20 Sep 2011, 07:55 pm »
Just checked my 14B SST2,   703/703

 :icon_lol: Really nice to see the extra free 103 watts /ch.  When i buy my second 14B, Maybe i should check all my dealer's 14B sq and pick out the one with most extra power...


rofo

Re: 4b st...extra power
« Reply #26 on: 20 Sep 2011, 08:10 pm »
Just checked my 14B SST2,   703/703

 :icon_lol: Really nice to see the extra free 103 watts /ch.  When i buy my second 14B, Maybe i should check all my dealer's 14B sq and pick out the with most extra power...

103 extra watts sound like a lot. But remember we are talking audio which is logarithmic and it only represents about .5dB of additional gain not worth fussing about or finding an exact match.

RLL1

Re: 4b st...extra power
« Reply #27 on: 20 Sep 2011, 08:48 pm »
7BSST2  665/668

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Re: 4b st...extra power
« Reply #28 on: 20 Sep 2011, 09:20 pm »
  Well this idea is really bearing fruit barring a smart ass . :nono:

spinner

Re: 4b st...extra power
« Reply #29 on: 20 Sep 2011, 09:22 pm »
  Vegas dave , where are you on this? :uzi:

rmurray

Re: 4b st...extra power
« Reply #30 on: 20 Sep 2011, 09:29 pm »
  Yeh , I checked mine and it says my 4bst is good for 3o9watts. Redbook ,you win. I must say this amp  is still getting better as time passes. I am reluctant to change it . I have great synergy with my JBL speakers. The sstsq'd is finer but that old st sure dances to my tunes.

spinner

Re: 4b st...extra power
« Reply #31 on: 20 Sep 2011, 09:40 pm »
  I was thinking that although the extra watts here and there are great, I believe there are small gains in the :drool: amount of shear audio "torque" involved. My 4bst allows me incredible low listening pressure in the base .. Perhaps it is due to the great current in the amp. :?:

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Re: 4b st...extra power
« Reply #32 on: 20 Sep 2011, 09:50 pm »
  I was thinking that although the extra watts here and there are great, I believe there are small gains in the :drool: amount of shear audio "torque" involved. My 4bst allows me incredible low listening pressure in the base .. Perhaps it is due to the great current in the amp. :?:

I'm thinking more of a 'clipping head room' , you know, there're really lazy speakers and those with impedance floating all over the place.

 :scratch: i tried to figure out the maths, i failed. I HATE maths. So i'm just gonna sit back and admire the extra watts on my sheet of paper.  :thumb:

Phil A

Re: 4b st...extra power
« Reply #33 on: 20 Sep 2011, 10:57 pm »
 The 14BSST I had was rated 645 into one channel and 649 into the other.  The 6BSST I still have is rated 333/335/333

adol290

Re: 4b st...extra power
« Reply #34 on: 20 Sep 2011, 11:43 pm »

  28B sst2   1300/1300
    7B sst2   670
    4b sst2   331/331
 

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Re: 4b st...extra power
« Reply #35 on: 21 Sep 2011, 02:06 am »

  4B ST   307/308
  14B ST  585/586
 

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Re: 4b st...extra power
« Reply #36 on: 21 Sep 2011, 02:15 am »
My 2001 vintage 4B-ST is rated at 287/289.  Purchased at AV Environments in Franklin, TN on Sept 22, 2001.

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rmurray

Re: 4b st...extra power
« Reply #37 on: 21 Sep 2011, 03:56 pm »
 Maybe James can say.. :scratch:What is the reason for the various actual power outputs. ?

spinner

Re: 4b st...extra power
« Reply #38 on: 21 Sep 2011, 07:21 pm »
 Good question.... :o

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Re: 4b st...extra power
« Reply #39 on: 21 Sep 2011, 07:23 pm »
Maybe James can say.. :scratch:What is the reason for the various actual power outputs. ?

You realize you are talking about minuscule amounts of power differences from channel to channel which will never be heard!!

james