carbon fiber brush

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rcag_ils

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carbon fiber brush
« on: 18 Sep 2011, 07:52 pm »
A few companies are selling these brush for about $20.00 but without solution. How well do they work without any solution? Has anybody tried it here?

*Scotty*

Re: carbon fiber brush
« Reply #1 on: 18 Sep 2011, 08:01 pm »
Carbon brushes are supposed to be semi-conductive,when you brush your record static will not be generated,this is not the case when you brush a record with a nylon bristled brush. Carbon brushes are supposed to be used dry as opposed to nylon bristled brushes which work best when used in a dampened condition.
 This is the reason carbon brushes are sold without a solution.
Scotty

rcag_ils

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Re: carbon fiber brush
« Reply #2 on: 18 Sep 2011, 08:16 pm »
Well, would it work better than damp clean?

*Scotty*

Re: carbon fiber brush
« Reply #3 on: 18 Sep 2011, 08:32 pm »
 

If you take a close look at the length of the bristles on the brush and how fine they are you will see that the brush may start to act more like a paint brush rather than a brush that picks up dust.
It is very likely that the bristles may start to stick together and the dust or other debris they may pick up can start to act like glue to keep them stuck together.
 You may have noticed that all of the brushes that are intended to be used in a damp or wet condition have very short bristles to help avoid this problem among others that can arise when a wet brush is used.
 You can try it wet if you want to but this kind of defeats the purpose of a quick pass before playing with a dry brush and the convenience associated with this technique. It is not supposed to substitute for a thorough wet cleaning of the record.
Scotty

hifitommy

carbon fiber brush usage
« Reply #4 on: 19 Sep 2011, 02:56 am »
this is best used dry on clean records to remove the dust accumulated in the jacket, just before play.  its much better than the dual row hunt as it can be tilted \\ into the oncoming record to pick dust out of the grooves.  a couple of turns of the disc and sweep off to the side.  repeat this a couple of times and there will be no line of dust like when you just lift off straight up. 

you will notice an accumulation of detritus on the plinth which shows the effectiveness of the technique.   

it is NOT a replacement for really cleaning the record.  it is only for dust removal just before play.

Scottdazzle

Re: carbon fiber brush usage
« Reply #5 on: 19 Sep 2011, 03:06 pm »
this is best used dry on clean records to remove the dust accumulated in the jacket, just before play.  its much better than the dual row hunt as it can be tilted \\ into the oncoming record to pick dust out of the grooves.  a couple of turns of the disc and sweep off to the side.  repeat this a couple of times and there will be no line of dust like when you just lift off straight up. 

you will notice an accumulation of detritus on the plinth which shows the effectiveness of the technique.   

it is NOT a replacement for really cleaning the record.  it is only for dust removal just before play.

Hifitommy,

Didn't you mean to say that the Audioquest type brush is not as good as the Hunt?  The Hunt actually lifts dust off the record, while the AQ seems to line it up in a straight line on the record.

Scott

vinyl_guy

Re: carbon fiber brush usage
« Reply #6 on: 19 Sep 2011, 03:29 pm »
Hifitommy,

Didn't you mean to say that the Audioquest type brush is not as good as the Hunt?  The Hunt actually lifts dust off the record, while the AQ seems to line it up in a straight line on the record.

Scott

I have both and find the AQ to work better than the Hunt in removing dust. I use the technique demonstrated in Michael Fremer's DVD. After a couple of revolutions I tilt it back and sweep it toward the edge of the record. This technique removes all the dust and then I flip the brush back n forth across the holder to remove any dust on the carbon fiber bristles. In either case, these brushes are designed to be used dry for the sole purpose of removing dust before playing, not for cleaning.

Minn Mark

Re: carbon fiber brush
« Reply #7 on: 19 Sep 2011, 06:02 pm »
I have the AQ ,and do as viny_lady does. Works for me, too. I find that I still have to deal with static on the LP, though, so also use an old zerostat.

M

rcag_ils

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Re: carbon fiber brush
« Reply #8 on: 19 Sep 2011, 07:08 pm »
Sounds like wet clean is still required. But maybe I can wet clean each record once, then use carbon fiber brush after.....

DaveyW

Re: carbon fiber brush
« Reply #9 on: 19 Sep 2011, 07:26 pm »
maybe I can wet clean each record once, then use carbon fiber brush after.....

That's what works for me  :thumb:
Thorough clean by what ever means suits you (I'm a Steamer  :lol:), then providing careful storage and handling, a swipe with a CFB is all that's ever required after that.

electricbear

Re: carbon fiber brush
« Reply #10 on: 19 Sep 2011, 09:14 pm »
I tried solution with the Aq brush about 8 years ago and it just clogs up the bristles.

Jlappy

Re: carbon fiber brush
« Reply #11 on: 24 Sep 2011, 05:23 am »

Is anyone else using one of these? 




got one about a year ago and loving it  :thumb:, works much better that the regular CFB.  I'm pretty sure I picked mine up from Acoustic Sounds http://store.acousticsounds.com/d/42882/AcousTech-The_Big_Record_Brush-Record_Cleaner

cheers,

Jim

DaveyW

Re: carbon fiber brush
« Reply #12 on: 24 Sep 2011, 06:22 am »
Is anyone else using one of these? 




got one about a year ago and loving it  :thumb:, works much better that the regular CFB.  I'm pretty sure I picked mine up from Acoustic Sounds http://store.acousticsounds.com/d/42882/AcousTech-The_Big_Record_Brush-Record_Cleaner

cheers,

Jim

Hi Jim - Does it work? Does it stop any form of static build up?

mjosef

Re: carbon fiber brush
« Reply #13 on: 24 Sep 2011, 06:26 am »
I use the smaller model, available at any photo supply store. I find it works better than the Audioquest above.

Listens2tubes

Re: carbon fiber brush
« Reply #14 on: 24 Sep 2011, 06:02 pm »
Is anyone else using one of these? 




got one about a year ago and loving it  :thumb:, works much better that the regular CFB.  I'm pretty sure I picked mine up from Acoustic Sounds http://store.acousticsounds.com/d/42882/AcousTech-The_Big_Record_Brush-Record_Cleaner

cheers,

Jim

I have it without the wire. Does the wire unplug? I was wondering if the handle is conductive or there is a wire run thru it to the brush.

BPoletti

Re: carbon fiber brush
« Reply #15 on: 24 Sep 2011, 06:44 pm »
The Disc Doctor ( http://www.discdoc.com/ ) has a brush similar to the old Audioquest brush.  I use one from Radio Shack that is similar.  They all work just fine for removing unwanted fine dust and dirt from the surface.  They will all address static problems if used properly. 

Maybe the bigger problem with static electricity is more related to the humidity in the room.  Wouldn't it be better to address the root cause of the static problem rather than applying band-aid fixes? 

jimdgoulding

Re: carbon fiber brush
« Reply #16 on: 24 Sep 2011, 08:03 pm »
I use an old Oracle double row brush and have for, I dunno, three decades?  Maybe I oughta think about getting a new one, huh.  I use it like Laura does with hers.

Jlappy

Re: carbon fiber brush
« Reply #17 on: 26 Sep 2011, 05:03 am »
Hi Jim - Does it work? Does it stop any form of static build up?

Hey Dave,  I think it works well and yes it does seem to stop static build up.  Jim

I have it without the wire. Does the wire unplug? I was wondering if the handle is conductive or there is a wire run thru it to the brush.

Listens2tubes,  I'm not sure if a wire run's thru the brush or not it seems to be a plastic handle brush and the ground wire 'snaps' on to  the handle.  Bellow are the grounding wire's instructions.



The big brush does a great job with dust and I really appreciate the long handle.  I broke one CFB when it fell on to my wood floor.  Also I seemed clumsy with the CFB and I was always afraid it would slip out of my fingers on to the spinning lp  :duh:   I don't have those worries now.

cheers,  Jim


andyr

Re: carbon fiber brush usage
« Reply #18 on: 26 Sep 2011, 11:38 pm »

After a couple of revolutions I tilt it back and sweep it toward the edge of the record. This technique removes all the dust and then I flip the brush back n forth across the holder to remove any dust on the carbon fiber bristles. In either case, these brushes are designed to be used dry for the sole purpose of removing dust before playing, not for cleaning.


And V_L, it would appear you don't clean your records (well, I mean using a vac RCM)?  :o

I use an Audioquest CF brush religiously, before & after each side ... but I never see it pick up any dust!  IE. the LP surface is spotless!   :D

Regards,

Andy

jimdgoulding

Re: carbon fiber brush
« Reply #19 on: 27 Sep 2011, 01:05 am »
I don't believe she said she actually saw any dust.  And she did say a carbon fiber brush is not for an actual cleaning.  I know what she means and think everybody should.