[SteveFord]

Not so much design prinipals but a question.
The wife likes the boob tube.
I like FM.
I do not like paying for cable.
She does not like paying for cable, either.
Many antennas, such as this one:

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_6593020/Channel-Master-3020.html?tp=3261

are touted as being suitable for both the idiot box and FM.
My question is are there any TV antennas that work as well for FM as my trusty old garden variety Rat Shack roof mount Yagi?

[WC]

Maybe. We tried the indoor antennas and found them a little lacking. I installed an attic antenna and it works fine for digital TV and FM. Without it I couldn't pick up any FM stations or TV stations.

[doug s.]

Not so much design prinipals but a question.
The wife likes the boob tube.
I like FM.
I do not like paying for cable.
She does not like paying for cable, either.
Many antennas, such as this one:

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_6593020/Channel-Master-3020.html?tp=3261

are touted as being suitable for both the idiot box and FM.
My question is are there any TV antennas that work as well for FM as my trusty old garden variety Rat Shack roof mount Yagi?

if properly mounted outside and up high, an antenna such as what you referenced should be as good as your rat-shack yagi...

doug s.

[doug s.]

also - channel master makes one bigger/better: cm3671

others to consider - winegard hd8200u & antennacraft hd1850
 dunno about fm, but someone on the avs forum said the winegard outperformed the channel master on tv...

the place to shop:
http://www.starkelectronic.com/antinex.htm

doug s.

[ngomez745]

Have you heard of MOHU? This is truly the best antenna I have ever used! MOHU has a sister company that makes antennas for the military. I'm receiving high def signals from every major station. I bought this antenna a month ago and finally discontinued my Direct TV. I was paying for over a hundred channels and only watching 3 channels about 90% of the time. So this works for me, and I do live in a major city where we have a powerful high def tower. I have no connection with the company, just a very happy customer!
Plus it's made in the USA!
http://www.gomohu.com/index.html

[Phil A]

I've heard good things about MOHU.  From where I am in Northern VA, I have a 10 foot antenna in the attic with a Channel Master preamp (and some slight inline attenuation) and am able to get DC and Baltimore stations (the way I had to orient it PBS in DC sometimes cuts in and out depending on weather as it is in a different direction and I have a small UHF bowtie going down to the main room on an A/B switch but it doesn't get needed often - just in case - was cheap). 

I agree about cable and satellite.  I can't see paying for something where I'll get tons of channels and watch a few now and then.  I did get the Google set top box about 8 months back but have been busy and other than a few hours when I first got it have not used it.  With Hulu (even the free Hulu) and other services available between music and movie discs I have I can't really see the need for cable or satellite.  I have friends who pay lots for pay TV services and they have all complained.  I even have a friend who works for a cable company (sells commercial) who has told me if his wasn't free and he had to pay what normal consumers would he wouldn't get it.

Have you thought about internet radio?  I actually have HD Radio in the main system and other then setting the presets and listening for a bit when I did it, I use internet radio (even your favorite local stations may broadcast over the internet)  I have it in the office system on my Pioneer 1120 and in the main system on the Squeezebox Touch (with upgraded power supply).  Most of the time I have it tuned to Linn Jazz or Classical (Linn has 3 stations).  They are 320bps and the Touch goes into my DAC and it basically is almost CD quality.  Plus you have tens of thousands of radio stations available and nice quality ones too.  I had a modded Sansui TU-717 and when I went to a 2-box preamp in January rack space became short.  I had the Squeezebox Touch only a few months and after listening decided I preferred the Touch into the DAC easily and being I had no physical room for the TU-717 I moved it.  When I first had the dilemma of no space for the TU-717 I was reluctant to let it go and pondered taking out an extra transport I had (even though I preferred using it for CDs vs. my Oppo) but it was the best thing to do space wise and sound quality wise.

[Wayner]

I have an older Channel Master antenna system, with separate UHF and VHF antennas. I also have the Chanel Master antenna preamp. FM, High Definition TV comes in excellent and I'm in "deep fringe" area.

I don't think you will be disappointed.

However, antennas are very susceptible to things in between the antenna and the transmitting tower, like buildings, trees, hills and things like that. You almost need a signal strength meter to find the best position for the antenna.

Another hint is not to locate it over your bedroom, as the antenna elements like to vibrate in the wind and make fun noises. Those noises should come from the bedroom, not above it.

Wayner 

[SteveFord]

I have more old tube tuners than anyone in their right mind would even think about owning - I can't just let the old piles collect cobwebs.  I kind of lost track as to how many I actually have but it's more than a few. 
What worries me is that I'm watching a HK Citation on eBay right now.  Is there some sort of a Tuner Intervention Program?
I will do my best with the bedroom noise making!
I should be okay with Baltimore and DC, I hope, as there's nothing even close to a mountain around here.  Satellite was out due to the trees, though.
If it were up to me I'd just forget the whole thing but what the wife wants the wife shall get.  She puts up with me, after all, and that can not be an easy thing to do.
I'll do cable initially and then get the antenna deal going hopefully early next month.

[R Swerdlow]

With over-the-air broadcast and antennas, its all about location, location, location.  It depends on your location and the locations of the signal sources.  Elevation also matters, higher is better.

Where I live (Gaithersburg, MD), I'm about 15 miles from most of the DC broadcast towers (TV and FM), and about 40 miles from the Baltimore sources.  There are plenty of strong signals.  I have two antennas mounted in my attic.

For TV I have a Wineguard SS-1000 Squareshooter http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.asp?mc=03&p=SS-1000&d=Winegard-SS1000-SquareShooter-UHF-Only-DigitalAnalogHDTV-TV-Antenna-System-%28SS1000%29&c=TV%20Antennas&sku=

And for FM, a turnstile type omnidirectional FM antenna http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.asp?mc=03&p=HD-6010&d=Winegard-HD6010-Omnidirectional-FM-Antenna-%28HD6010%29&c=AM-FM%20Radio%20Antennas&sku=.

Those work well for me, but conditions can vary a lot depending on your location.

Broadcast TV and FM radio used to be divided into 3 bands.  From low to high frequency, they were:

VHF - Low band - TV channels 2-6
FM radio (between TV channels 6 and 7)
VHF - High band - TV channels 7-13
UHF - TV channels 14 and up

With digital TV, the VHF low band is rarely used.  In the Washington, DC/Baltimore area, I believe all the digital TV signals are on channels 7 and higher.  FM is unchanged.

Some TV antennas, like the one you linked from Crutchfield, can receive all of those signals.  But some TV antennas had a FM trap to minimize interference from some FM signals.  So check to be sure about that.