[Berndt]

Recently purchased the rhino reissues of janes addiction, nothing shocking and ritual.
There are albums I've never heard on vinyl and was eagerly anticipating this experience.
Other rhino reissues have been brilliant, for me, judas priest british steel was very quiet and dynamic.
These janes lps sound like cds with surface noise added. Compressed, two dimensional, lifeless with a high degree of surface noise thrown in on the quiet bits. I cleaned them repeatedly to no avail. I had to put on a known quantity to assure myself that my rig wasnt busted. Gosh, what a dismal dissapointment. I just needed to vent, thanks

[woodsyi]

I am sorry to hear that Bill.  I recently had a similar experience.  Compressed recording is no good on vinyl either.  I had to go back and listen to a good record to check and see if something was broken. 

[Wayner]

Unfortunately, the original master can't (or shouldn't) be used to cut vinyl. It needs to have a reduction in the loudest passages, which can be accomplished by one of two means, compression or simply lowering the volume of the entire recording. This is done in the vinyl media, so that the stylus can actually follow the grooves. Next is to apply RIAA EQ to the recording, so again, the lower frequencies can be tracked, and via the reverse RIAA curve, restored to their natural levels.

When I hear stories like this, I have to think that someone took some short-cuts and with fiddling fingers in the cutting room, a poorer rendition of the original took shape.

I also have some Rhino re-masters, such as Genesis, 1970-1975 (5 disc box set) and it is a stellar achievement, sounding much better then the original pressings ever did, but there are some others that fall short. It's all in the mastering process.

Sorry to hear your Jane's Addiction is not up to par. Probably another set will sound the same?

Wayner

[decal]

They probably took shortcuts to get the product out fast. That way they can get to  the hard earned money of the folks that have jumped on the vinyl resurgence band wagon.Just my opinion,humble as it may be.

[Wayner]

It could be that, or I rather suspect some young engineer that has never made a vinyl master before and perhaps the poor lathe operator had to do some "funny stuff" to make it fly.

But, that's just a guess, too.

Wayner

[Jlappy]

Berndt,  bummer about the Janes Addiction . . .

Wayner,

I think you may be right about the 'young engineer' who has never made a vinyl master.  On a similar topic, the owner of my local CD/Record store (mostly CDs, yet he can get most new releases for me) and I had  an interesting conversation about a week ago.  He had commented that the vinyl pressing machines (in use today) are 50 + years old today, many were disassembled and sold in the mid 80s when CDs took over the market . . . so who are the engineers/technicians who work on these resembled machines?   I live a little more than a hour Jacksonville Illinois where Columbia Records pressed maybe 1/2 their lps in the day.  My record store guy told me those machines ended up in California in some warehouse  . . . where are they now      I wonder .  .  . maybe used by un-knowledgeable technicians  to press 'poor quality'  Janes Addiction lps on the rhino label     . . .

Jim

[Wayner]

Check out the Chad Kassem (spelling) story, from Acoustic Sounds, in the last Stereophile. He's even installed PLCs to control water temperature on the presses. He has the best pressing facility in the world.

Wayner

[Jlappy]

Check out the Chad Kassem (spelling) story, from Acoustic Sounds, in the last Stereophile. He's even installed PLCs to control water temperature on the presses. He has the best pressing facility in the world.

Wayner

Wayner,

thanks for the lead on the interview and furthering my understanding of the vinyl pressing world,  i think I found a different interview here also  http://www.monoandstereo.com/2008/01/interview-with-chad-kassem-of-acoustic.html   great read     

Chad Kassem sounds like one of those great persons I need to seek out so I can buy him a drink 

also here is another article i found about his/Acoustic Sounds facilities http://store.acousticsounds.com/index.cfm?get=page&PID=513 

cheers,  Jim