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It's funny how everyone is saying mad dog has objectively critiqued these cables... I asked him privately what he thought of the mse cables.. his reponse was quite different from how his posts read... "secret society" may not be the proper term... but there is an underlying premise that remains true.
So in essense, we have too much "drama" and "testosterone" here and not enough understanding.
As Deputy Dog (MD's uncle) used to say "I double dog guarantee it"
John Caslor/eichlerea1/F-100/Rocket/Maxwalrath Like I said, I have NO facts and a agree with JonL's assessments. BUT to speculate, we have someone who's a danc'in one minute with praises of the MSE cable's attributes, slightly backing off from these praises the next, then stating as facts that the MSE cables aren't neutral but in fact veiled with statements of " I'll PM ya". Like Robert said, it's called reading between the lines and making assessments. And another speculation ON MY PART makes one wonder how much of a part Mad DOg's run in with PsychicAnimal over this earlier "change of heart" had to do with Mad DOg's present "facts"?? I suggest to those who want to "get the record straight" that they go back and read the trail from the start of Mad DOg's MSE audition review and take this to the present "setting the record straight" comments from Mad DOg and make up your own mind as to the facts here. I see none here myself!!!! Regards, Robin
OK, my bad,,, now I see a FACT. Regards, Robin
Good ole Robin...so astute and observant! I love how he completely overlooks, or disregards, the statements and "facts" from eichlerera1 and Rocket. The matter of the fact is that MD has stated the facts from day one. He has told his opinion, based on his experiences, sytem, and preferences. The initial statements he made were based on a quick listen. Also, he still feels the interconnects are quite good, if I am not mistaken. However, he has found other cables he pref ...
I don't think anyone cares that Mad Dog changed his opinion on the mse cables.. like anyone else, he's certainly entitled to that... what has caused all the controversy is the manner he approached in his future statements of the cables... reverting to pm's to express his comments which are far from polite send a bad image about ridge street audio to the person he's writing and to anyone who reads his post saying "i'll pm you." Furthermore, Robert claims that he forewarned mad dog about how the cables may r ...
I can understand how a negative impession could be inferred from the PM route. However, keep in mind there have been a couple people on this board that are VERY eccentric and argumentative regarding anyone having a less than purely gushing review of the Ridge Street cables. I can tell you that MD is the kind of person that wants to be able to state his honest opinion without having to get in a debate or argument every time. Given the history up until now, this thread included, it should be obv ...
.....now on with the show,,,, ( and I have no intention of countering Sa-Dono's attacks) Regards, Robin
mad dog, how do the argent audio cables compare to robert's ridge street cables?
i auditioned the RSA MSE GenIIs and they were good cables, but I definitely preferred the Onix GM IC over them in my system...the Argent, AZ and Eichmann eXpress all STOMP all over the MSE GenII ICs AND the Onix GM IC...the Argent and AZ are at a level of their own followed relatively closely by the Eichmann...these 3 laid the rest to waste...the MSE GenIIs are FAR from neutral as Robert claims they are...the Onix GM isn't neutral either for that matter...in my system, the Argent, AZ Silver Ref IIs and Eichmanns represent the epitome of neutrality IMHO...i'm glad i didn't end up trying the Poiema! and gave the Argent a try instead
It is my understanding that John R, the owner of AC will not offer ANY further circles to companies whose only products are cables.
Note also that some types of products are generally not good candidates for circles, simply because user communities do not form around them. Cables and tweak devices are examples.
I warned you several times about this. The forums are a double edged knife and you set yourself up by letting your cables fall in the AV123 group's hands. Lesson learned. Chris was very careful in making sure my setup, type of music (hardcore salsa/merengue and acoustic Nueva Trova) and my hearing were a proper environment to make a fair audition.
I agree, I think all AV123 owners should be required to submit "hearing test" results, and demonstrate a certified "audiophile Level 3" listening ability before a manufacturer consider them for audition purposes.
