I would not buy this even if I could afford it easily!!!

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Sometimes I think myself, What is the good idea to manufacture such thing?

Boulder 2008 phono $29,000
And when I think deeper I realize that I like my music library more then my system and I could never care about such a product.
Now,is this the way that we try to to attract our future generation in this hobby? :scratch:

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Re: I would not buy this even if I could afford it easily!!!
« Reply #1 on: 30 Jul 2011, 01:16 pm »
Feed the addiction/expectation to some  I guess. I'm glad that I haven't got a turntable.  :lol: :duh:

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« Reply #2 on: 30 Jul 2011, 01:56 pm »
I agree, pure absurdity!
Has Stereophile's MF reviewed it yet?  :roll:

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« Reply #3 on: 30 Jul 2011, 02:10 pm »



How about a nice matching pair of speakers for it?

http://www.bornrich.com/entry/headless-dog-speakers-barking-to-music-mode/

Woof!

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srb

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« Reply #4 on: 30 Jul 2011, 03:53 pm »
Sometimes I think myself, What is the good idea to manufacture such thing?
Boulder 2008 phono $29,000

Because it seems like a bargain compared to this?
 
Vitus Audio Masterpiece Series MP-P201 Phono Preamplifier $60,000
 

 
 

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« Reply #5 on: 30 Jul 2011, 05:31 pm »

Because it seems like a bargain compared to this?
 
Vitus Audio Masterpiece Series MP-P201 Phono Preamplifier $60,000
 

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« Reply #6 on: 30 Jul 2011, 06:42 pm »
I used to own expensive ultra high end equipment...it's not all it's cracked up to be.

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« Reply #7 on: 30 Jul 2011, 07:00 pm »
Isn't all audio equipment ridiculously expensive? I seem to have missed the arbitrary line you all have drawn between sane/insane in regards to price.  :scratch:

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« Reply #8 on: 30 Jul 2011, 08:33 pm »
When you're talking high-end, yes for the most part. The ultra high end is real crazy with those prices, as Prelude and srb alluded to.

jimdgoulding

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« Reply #9 on: 30 Jul 2011, 09:13 pm »
What if the manufacturer's sales have leveled off.  An item like this could make the cover of some audio publication and renew the brand name to consumers.  They make other product.  Maybe srb hit the nail on the head.  Give wealthy consumers an alternative to Vitus and publicity sure doesn't hurt.  The are still some dealers around that Boulder may want to woo.

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« Reply #10 on: 30 Jul 2011, 09:17 pm »
No offense meant to those who feel otherwise, but I don't understand why there's always so much carping about the "absurd" or "ridiculous" pricing of uber high end gear. We live in a world where some people have unlimited resources to satisfy their desires for the "best," whatever that may be. Inventive and resourceful people earn their living making products to satisfy these desires and the wealthy temporarily scratch their itch to have another signifier of their status. Economically, it's mutually beneficial relationship to my mind. I imagine most people wish that wealth was more equitably distributed, but at least some of the monies of the well-healed is getting redistributed in the trade for luxury goods. :lol:

jimdgoulding

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« Reply #11 on: 30 Jul 2011, 09:20 pm »
Good point, Photon, and well written.  I remain completely nuts for the print over your equipment rack in your gallery. 

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« Reply #12 on: 30 Jul 2011, 09:32 pm »
No offense meant to those who feel otherwise, but I don't understand why there's always so much carping about the "absurd" or "ridiculous" pricing of uber high end gear. We live in a world where some people have unlimited resources to satisfy their desires for the "best," whatever that may be. Inventive and resourceful people earn their living making products to satisfy these desires and the wealthy temporarily scratch their itch to have another signifier of their status. Economically, it's mutually beneficial relationship to my mind. I imagine most people wish that wealth was more equitably distributed, but at least some of the monies of the well-healed is getting redistributed in the trade for luxury goods. :lol:

Photon46 makes a great point  :thumb:

I think that we all like to joke around now and then and perhaps they are times when you must sit down and have a real good laugh at yourself also - I find that this keeps me sane most of the time. As everyone knows that in our audio hobby, everyone has their own price plateau or perhaps a better term would be their own personal saturation point.

Many individuals consider me to be somewhat of a "nut bar" or "freak" for the amount I paid for my audio gear. On second thought, this may not be a good example because they thought of me this way before I purchased my little piece of audio Nirvana - oh well, I think that you get the point I am trying to make. I find all audio gear interesting on varying scales, from the equipment that I can put on the shelf to the ultra high end gear that I can only fantasize about owning. Hmm.. now where did I put that article on the JBL Everest speakers?

Whether an individual's purchase is based on performance, aesthetics, wants, needs or even vanity; it is what makes us happy at the end of the day. Perhaps deep down, we all have a little vanity inside of us. Another observation that I consider from time to time if we may also harbour a little touch of jealousy. I guess we may all fall into this category as sometimes we overlook what we have and can only see what the next individual has.

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« Reply #13 on: 30 Jul 2011, 09:32 pm »
So, have any of you heard the Boulder or the Vitus Phono stages?


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« Reply #14 on: 30 Jul 2011, 09:46 pm »
Well, I haven't, thats for sure.  But given my limited resourses, I have to question if the Vitus is twice as good to music reproduction as the Boulder.  Or, if the Boulder is twice as good as a phono pre costing half as much as it does, and so on.  If you have heard either, please share.   

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Re: I would not buy this even if I could afford it easily!!!
« Reply #15 on: 30 Jul 2011, 10:20 pm »
Feed the addiction/expectation to some  I guess. I'm glad that I haven't got a turntable.  :lol: :duh:
Iam even more glad yet, as the various surface noises of the vinyl annoy me and take me away from the music, not to mention the vinyl wear after afew auditions.

These ultra expensive equipment are made to get money from the gullible vinyl fan, if the manufacturer sells one unit of this product, the profit already paid all the development of product.
This kind of money are very useful to made a new dedicated music room.

Likely products of these prices are made to order, after payment of the customer.
Other hypothesis is to made a Hi-End prestige reputation for such manufacturer, a useless feature if one like tube amps, after you know great tube amps of the past as Marantz 8 and 9 models were very low price gear in the 1960 years.


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« Reply #16 on: 30 Jul 2011, 10:37 pm »

Because it seems like a bargain compared to this?
 
Vitus Audio Masterpiece Series MP-P201 Phono Preamplifier $60,000
 

In my country there is a magazine on paper, that real rule the audio market, they forces distributors of imported audio equipment to increase product prices to not harm their advertisers with higher prices.
Most disgusting ...

Pez

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« Reply #17 on: 30 Jul 2011, 10:40 pm »
Well, I haven't, thats for sure.  But given my limited resourses, I have to question if the Vitus is twice as good to music reproduction as the Boulder.  Or, if the Boulder is twice as good as a phono pre costing half as much as it does, and so on.  If you have heard either, please share.   

This is the fallacy of most pursuing this insane hobby. You must think of audio in different terms.

An analogy that I like to use is a straight razor. A straight razor might be sharp enough to physically cut hair, let's say it's 90% sharp. If you shave with such a razor you will have the worst razor burn of your life and still have stubble. The result will be the worst shave of your life. Such a straight razor is absolutely worthless until brought to a proper edge. Now let's say you sharpen and strop your razor to the point where it is share enough to literally cut a hanging hair (yes this is actually possible I have 3 razors that can do this) let's say that blade is 97% sharp. The result is a shave that is easy, without razor burn and the closest shave you can possibly get. An absolute delight.

Now using this analogy would you be happy with a piece of gear that only gave you a 7% increase in sound quality if your system is currrently "90%"? I'd say hell yes.

jimdgoulding

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« Reply #18 on: 30 Jul 2011, 10:44 pm »
Pez, old boy, I think most people would simply sharpen their razor.  Anyway, most people with limited resources would purchase within their means to close the 7% gap.  These products are not for them.  Have no fear, next year a product will come out to make people with means THINK they have a 7% gap and the media will support it.  If they didn't we wouldn't have one.

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Re: I would not buy this even if I could afford it easily!!!
« Reply #19 on: 30 Jul 2011, 11:18 pm »
The problem with analogies is they leave some issue out. The razor is fine as a sort of analogy. The problem there is to get the audio straight razor to that 97% from the 90% cost tens of thousands of dollars. Not quite the same a simply doing a better sharping job.
Then the next step from 97% to 98% is gonna cost a LOT more, like $100,000. or so...
The 90% boombox can be had for a hundred bucks...
Like right now i own some decent gear. To move up.. hah...
The money is like BIG money..