dB Power amp ripping ridiculously slow

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ctviggen

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dB Power amp ripping ridiculously slow
« on: 8 May 2011, 03:08 pm »
My motherboard, processor, and power supply went down in my computer (for the THIRD time).  Anyway, I bought a new motherboard, processor, and power supply.  I also installed a bluray player/burner.

Because of the constraints of the new power supply, I can't connect the old DVD/CD player (without disconnecting a hard drive).  I went relatively cheap for the motherboard and processor, because this computer is going to be a server one day.

The problem I'm having is the dB power amp ripping is insanely slow.  For instance, I've ripped 5/18 songs, and it's taken 50 minutes! 

Is it possible it's the bluray drive?  Or is my system simply too slow?

Thank you.

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Re: dB Power amp ripping ridiculously slow
« Reply #1 on: 8 May 2011, 03:16 pm »
There are few things that could be causing it. The first is if the disc has any scratches, it will take a while because it is trying to get an accurate rip. What are your settings on for number of passes and level of compression? These will impact the speed of the rip. Does this happen on all discs?

Mike B.

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« Reply #2 on: 8 May 2011, 03:44 pm »
I have no solution but I have put my entire cd collection onto a usb hard drive using this program. All files were converted to WAV and average rip time per CD was 1-2 minutes. I use a windows XP computer and did some of the converstion on a Vista PC. Both were fast. How much RAM?

ctviggen

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Re: dB Power amp ripping ridiculously slow
« Reply #3 on: 8 May 2011, 05:21 pm »
It's a brand new disc. I'm running windows 7, 64 bit, 4GB RAM, Windows Experience level of 3.5 (which to me means nothing), Dual Pentium E5400 @2.7 GHz

I have ultra secure ripping enabled.  Minimum of three passes.  I thought there was a location to enable running on two cores?  I can't see that anymore.  I'm using similar configurations, except this player has C2 error pointers (the other did not).

It took me over two hours to rip one disc! It could take a while with the other drive(s) I've used, but never this long. 

It's a new installation (motherboard died) (and a new bluray ripper/writer), so I don't know if it's every disc or not.  I would assume so, though.

*Scotty*

Re: dB Power amp ripping ridiculously slow
« Reply #4 on: 8 May 2011, 05:38 pm »
 ctviggen,have you always used the Ultra secure option in dBpoweramp to rip your CDs and did the program rip faster in the past than it does now. It is my understanding that the Ultra secure mode stresses your drive even more than the standard secure mode. I have always used the standard secure mode with a drive that has C2 error correction capability and have been satisfied with with the checksum number verification provided by Accurate Rip. I rip to WAVE and stash the file on an external 500G Seagate Free Agent Go USB Harddrive. An average CD around 650 Mbits will take about 7 to 8 minutes to rip. I limit the drive speed to 10x. I also purchased a standalone  DVD drive to burn and rip CD's so as to limit the wear and tear on the built in drive in my laptop.
 Scotty

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Re: dB Power amp ripping ridiculously slow
« Reply #5 on: 8 May 2011, 05:58 pm »
I have no experience with dbPowerAmp, but I do use EAC.  I can tell you from experience that the drive makes a HUGE difference in ripping speed. And a newer drive does not mean better, unfortunately.

You say you don't have room for another drive? I use a USB enclosure for an old IDE drive as my primary ripper.

I've used drives that can't rip much faster than 1x. I also have drives that go 8x (same CD). If I remember correctly, internal laptop drives usually fair much worse.  If I see a cd ripping slowly, or EAC gets caught up on a track, I just use a different drive.

Drive feature database:
http://www.daefeatures.co.uk/search.php

Drive Ranking:
http://forum.dbpoweramp.com/showthread.php?t=23074






mgalusha

Re: dB Power amp ripping ridiculously slow
« Reply #6 on: 8 May 2011, 09:49 pm »
Here in another one that can drive you insane... If a disk has a lot of errors Win XP would change the drive mode from DMA to PIO which is horribly slow and takes all the cpu cycles. There is no way toggle it back, you have to right click and uninstall the drive and when it's re-detected the mode will reset and things will be normal again.

I don't know if Win 7 exhibits the same behavior but if you are seeing high cpu usage while ripping I'd check this and uninstall, reboot and see if it gets better.

mike

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Re: dB Power amp ripping ridiculously slow
« Reply #7 on: 8 May 2011, 11:35 pm »
It's fast on my computer, but I don't use ultra secure ripping mode (thats probably what is slowing you down). If thats not it, my money would be on the new drive.


Dave

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Re: dB Power amp ripping ridiculously slow
« Reply #8 on: 9 May 2011, 08:11 am »
I suggest you try the forum at dbpoweramp. The guys who wrote the program will answer your questions there.

http://forum.dbpoweramp.com/

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Re: dB Power amp ripping ridiculously slow
« Reply #9 on: 10 May 2011, 03:26 am »
I thought there was a location to enable running on two cores?  I can't see that anymore.
One core will be used to read the CD and the other core will be used to compress the track.

ctviggen

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Re: dB Power amp ripping ridiculously slow
« Reply #10 on: 15 May 2011, 01:54 pm »
Thanks for all the answers.  I haven't been able to get back to this because I had to reinstall Windows yet again (didn't realize I had used up all my licenses on my 3 pack) (and I probably didn't have to reinstall; I could've probably put in the new code, but didn't think about that until it was too late).

I did previously use secure mode on a DVD/CD drive.  I still have this DVD/CD drive I can use, but I'd have to buy an external case (or perhaps a SATA b

oard to install -- maybe that's my best bet).  My new motherboard only has four SATA connectors, and I have three hard drives (OS, main data drive, backup data drive) and one Bluray player/burner.  This computer is supposed to be a network attached storage drive one day, and I figure 3 drives of 1.5TB each (and the OS comes off a memory stick, I believe) would give me 4.5 TB, which should be plenty for quite a while.  My old motherboard had 6 SATA connectors, but this one does not.

I'll see what I can do and report back if I can figure out what's going on.  2+ hours for one CD is quite a bit. I have 5 CDs in mind to order now, but that's 2.5 days (one CD at night; one during the day) or 5 days just to rip CDs!

I seem to remember the other drive was about 30 minutes in ultrasecure mode (but I also have a new motherboard). 

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Re: dB Power amp ripping ridiculously slow
« Reply #11 on: 16 May 2011, 01:46 am »
Just curious if you calibrated your BR drive?  I'd also be inclined to try what mgalusha said.

Also, just fyi, I've had brand new discs that would rip fine but one track and that one track took 5 hours to get rigt.  This was an expensive xrcd, so I sent it back, and they sent me a replacement, and the same track had the same issue, so I figured it was a flaw on the glasss master.  Once ripped in secure mode wth dbpoweramp, it sounds just fine when played back with no hint of even a tiny click, so dbpoweramp did it's job, but you're right, there has to be a limit.

Good luck,

Jim

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Re: dB Power amp ripping ridiculously slow
« Reply #12 on: 16 May 2011, 02:33 am »
From what I remember "Ultra Secure Mode" only means to check w/ the AccurateRip dB.
One known method to speed things up is to turn off "After Encoding Verify Written Audio".

Larry

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« Reply #13 on: 16 May 2011, 02:53 am »
I rip everything in burst mode, it is the fastest possible method. After the rip I look for AccurateRip verification, which compares checksum to other reported values for that track. I am satisfied with matching others' rips. If it doesn't match up or if it's not in the AccurateRip database I rerip it in Ultra-Secure with minimum passes. If it still doesn't rip clean, I accept the bad file and move on. Occasionally the errors are audible, but it is very rare, usually caused by scratches. Then I send the disk back for a refund/exchange, if possible.

If it is caused by your Ultrasecure rip settings, you can test that by trying burst mode. If it is still slow in burst, it could be your drive stuck in PIO.

ctviggen

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Re: dB Power amp ripping ridiculously slow
« Reply #14 on: 20 May 2011, 12:05 am »
Well, it's still ridiculously slow (20 minutes per song).  I did go out and buy a card so I could get my other DVD/CD drive working.  I'm attempting to use both (Bluray for CD and DVD for DVD).

Are the C2 error pointers worth anything?  My Bluray player has these, my DVD player does not.  I've not yet tried the DVD player, but will do so.

richidoo

Re: dB Power amp ripping ridiculously slow
« Reply #15 on: 20 May 2011, 12:28 am »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C2_error

The DVD drive might be much better for ripping. Also, the dbpoweramp forum is very active and helpful with tech problems, if you can't find a solution on your own.