[Minn Mark]

Just wondering if any vinylphiles have used these interconnects to connect turntable to phono inputs, and your impressions. Am looking for interconnect to try with VPI Classic into Van Alstine Insight pre-amp. Pick-up is Sumiko Blackbird.

see their interconnects at    www.anticables.com

Thanks,

Mark

[Wayner]

There is a huge possibility of hum issues with an unshielded interconnect. I would not recommend the Anti-cables for this or any other application, but I'm sure others will jump in, in support.

Wayner

[AVnerdguy]

There is a huge possibility of hum issues with an unshielded interconnect. I would not recommend the Anti-cables for this or any other application, but I'm sure others will jump in, in support.

Wayner

What he said......not saying they won't work but unshieled on a high gain stage like a phono input not the best pairing

[dlparker]

Just wondering if any vinylphiles have used these interconnects to connect turntable to phono inputs, and your impressions. Am looking for interconnect to try with VPI Classic into Van Alstine Insight pre-amp. Pick-up is Sumiko Blackbird.

see their interconnects at    www.anticables.com

Thanks,

Mark

I'd like to know about this, too.  I just checked the link and didn't see any spade-lug to RCA-male cables, though.  I've got a Denon DP-30L-II that I'm running into my first AVA component (a used PAT-5 FETII that I got from AVA last summer), into my second ever AVA component (used Omega III 260 - got it again from Frank a few weeks later) and there's pretty substantial hum from this TT, cart (Grado M+) preamp matchup.  Once the music starts I don't notice it except in really quiet passages, and even then I'm so enthralled by the sound of the music that I don't care.  I don't know if this TT is one of the Denons that naturally has this problem, but I'd be willing to spring for $70 for a pair of replacement phone cables.  Will probably take it to Vinyl Renaissance (Overland Park, KS - new location in downtown KC, MO) for a check up at some point. 

[Wayner]

The hum you are experiencing is from (more then likely) a step down transformer inside the Denon turntable that is creating an EMF field, interfering with the Grado coils. The way the Grado cartridges are designed is what makes them sound great, but also makes them vulnerable to magnetic fields.

Wayner

[festuss]

Cheap fine working long lasting  www.   partsexpress.com   www.      mcmelectronics.com   paying more is just dumb.  there is no sound in a piece of wire, only high profits from being fleeced with nonsense.

[festuss]

   $70 for phono wires, are you nuts.  you have a ground issue and or teh Grado humming cartridges, play with grounds, not $70 pieces of wire, a good phono RCA is about $5...less on sale.....don't be horn swaggled by audiophile nonsense....

[coke]

For cables in general, I've been very happy with Bluejeans.  They cost a little more than something like monoprice, but I like being able to specify the lengths, and i'm pleased with the quality.

[Brett Buck]

There is a huge possibility of hum issues with an unshielded interconnect. I would not recommend the Anti-cables for this or any other application, but I'm sure others will jump in, in support.

   I can't tell from their site, but - unshielded interconnects?  A joke site, right?  Unless, of course, you like hum, and you like the sound of your amplifier trying (and failing) to play every radio signal and interference source in the world.

    Brett

[dlparker]

For cables in general, I've been very happy with Bluejeans.  They cost a little more than something like monoprice, but I like being able to specify the lengths, and i'm pleased with the quality.

I need to order some mic cables, and Bluejeans looks like the best place.  I may take another look at the innards of my TT one of these days and see if the connections are soldered or screwed lugs.  If Bluejeans has some reasonably priced shielded cables and it's not too tough, I may replace the ones that are on there now.  Like a said though, once the music starts I forget about the hum.

[dlparker]

  $70 for phono wires, are you nuts.

Hey - that has nothing to do with audio or hifi or acoustics or economics.  It's a long standing issue/condition and actually it's not so bad once you get here.  In fact, I've grown to like it..

[festuss]

mic cables that work, using Neutrik connectors, excellent warranty, priced for planet earth, I use em all the time, never had a failure ever.  Priced right, work great, no nonsense, just pure function for the application.
www.    procosound    .com/cables/microphone/   excellines

[chosenhandle]

I've tried it, and it wasn't pretty. Lots of noise. At least on my system....

[Letitroll98]

You might try posting this on the Vinyl circle for a more catholic response.  I would suggest that you use a cable specifically designed for phono leads, e.g. low capacitance and shielded.  But note that I've used unshielded Kimber PBJ as phono cable in a pinch, with Grado cartridges, with absolutely no hum issues, and have used shielded phono cable and had hum issues that took forever to track down.  So it's not just a cable issue.  As to how much you should spend or if cables sound different, not on this circle.      

[guest1632]

   I can't tell from their site, but - unshielded interconnects?  A joke site, right?  Unless, of course, you like hum, and you like the sound of your amplifier trying (and failing) to play every radio signal and interference source in the world.

    Brett

Hey Bret,

Not trying to start a flamewar here, but Anticables between amp and pree, are pretty good, no humm and no radio stations. As for phono cables, ... not to sure about that. I have a pair, and they're not bad.

Now as for humm with Grato stuff, yeah, i've seen that too with shielded cables. It's just one of those things you gotta try for yourself and see what happends. That's part of the fun of audio.


Ray Bronk

[dlparker]

Now as for humm with Grato stuff, yeah, i've seen that too with shielded cables. It's just one of those things you gotta try for yourself and see what happends. That's part of the fun of audio.


Ray Bronk

And the "funnest" part is just kicking back and listening to the music.  And now that I've finally tried Frank's stuff after all these years, I'm able to do that better than I ever have, even with blown ears!

[Minn Mark]

Thanks for all the kind responses.

Yes, I should be more careful what Circle I'm in when I start a thread....but I appreciate your advice here.


Decided to go with BlueJeans interconnects.  Will use them between TT and pre-amp, and also a pair for preamp to amp. Thanks.

Mark

[dlparker]

The hum you are experiencing is from (more then likely) a step down transformer inside the Denon turntable that is creating an EMF field, interfering with the Grado coils. The way the Grado cartridges are designed is what makes them sound great, but also makes them vulnerable to magnetic fields.

Wayner

Well, I just fired up said 30+ year old Denon/Grado TT/cart combo.  And noticed that the hum seemed louder than usual.  I checked the RCA plugs, and the left channel plug was loose.  Plugged it in all the way, played Otis's "Try A Little Tenderness" from the Hendrix/Redding "Live at Monterey" album (probably a 30 or so year old copy), and heard NO hum whatsoever until either Dunn unplugged his bass or Cropper unplugged his guitar.  The only hum I hear now is from the refrigerator, and anyway  I don't know how long it's been since I've been able to  hear the occasional pop or hiss from well maintened vinyl.

Frank's stuff continues to amaze this AVA neophyte.