Denon DVD-2900 Level 1 Mod. By 6moons

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Denon DVD-2900 Level 1 Mod. By 6moons
« on: 22 Mar 2004, 02:42 pm »
6moons gives Denon DVD-2900 Level 1 mod. hearty recommendation. www.6moons.com

mgalusha

Denon DVD-2900 Level 1 Mod. By 6moons
« Reply #1 on: 22 Mar 2004, 03:36 pm »
I have this with the level 2 mods plus a few addtional tweaks and IMO the sound is very very good. Incredibly detailed and transparent, clean extended high frequencies and perhaps the best bass I've ever heard.

mike

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Denon DVD-2900 Level 1 Mod. By 6moons
« Reply #2 on: 23 Mar 2004, 12:03 am »
Mike - what have you compared the modded Denon against? I'll have to refer to PX website to see what Level 2 mods entail. The one thing that worries me about their mods is the very short warranty period - 90 days. Not a concern at your end?

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Ron

Wayne1

Denon DVD-2900 Level 1 Mod. By 6moons
« Reply #3 on: 23 Mar 2004, 12:30 am »
I had that same player in my system for a while.

We did compare it against the nOrh CD-1 as a transport and the Denon was a whole heck of a lot better.

In my system as a transport and DVD player, it didn't seem that much better than my modded NS-V500. I never did listen to the analog section in my system.

At Jerry's we compared it to the Exemplar Audio modded Denon 2900. We all preferred the sound of the tubed stage mod to the one with the upgraded op-amps. The PX was very dry and anilytical in comparison.

I believe Mike has done some additional work to the PX Denon to take the sound a bit further along. I have not heard it since he modded it some more.

mgalusha

Denon DVD-2900 Level 1 Mod. By 6moons
« Reply #4 on: 23 Mar 2004, 12:46 am »
Quote from: Ron D
Mike - what have you compared the modded Denon against? I'll have to refer to PX website to see what Level 2 mods entail. The one thing that worries me about their mods is the very short warranty period - 90 days. Not a concern at your end?

Tx
Ron


Ron,

They don't actually call it a level 2 mod, my mistake. It's the level 1 mods  with the addition of a LC Audio XO3 clock. From what Parts Connexion say none of their mods voids the Denon warranty, so repair (if needed) shouldn't be a problem. I think the 90 days only covers the mods. In my case I'm not worried because I can probably repair the player. Of course I'm really hoping it won't fail for a long time. :)

I have directly compared it to a Stan Warren modded Philips SACD 1000, a pretty maxed out DI/O, an Exemplar Audio modded Denon 2900. I have a few other more mundane players as well but they aren't even in the same league. I've heard quite a few other quality front ends although not in direct comparisons.

The PC modded Denon has more detail and transparency than any of the above. It also has a very extended but non fatiguing top end. Bass performance is simply amazing. Old recordings keep surprising me with details I've never noticed before and in some instances with low bass that was simply missing.

The Exemplar modded Denon has a more liquid midrange and the tube magic that is very nice. It isn't quite as transparent and detailed as the PC version but it's incredibly smooth. Both are very good and the choice between them boils down to system synergy and personal preference. A good friend owns the Exemplar and in his system it seems to have a better synergy than the PC modded version. In my system the Exemplar is a little too soft and the PC version matches my gear and tastes very well.

The Philips is very smooth but lags behind the Denons in dynamics, bass, detail and top end extension. I was disappointed with the Stan Warren mods. APL is offering some supposedly killer mods for the Philips but I don't have a spare $1,850 for yet another player.

In comparison to the modded ART DI/O the Denon betters it (in my system) in pretty much all areas. On occasion the DI/O can be overly aggressive in the mid/upper midrange and can wear on a person. At least that is my feeling. The Denon has tons of detail but doesn't have the midrange harshness that can occur with the DI/O. My DI/O was essentially the same as the ones modded by Bolder Cables, not identical but nearly so.

The gentleman who owns the Exemplar actually purchased both the Exemplar and the Parts Connextion mods and liked the Exemplar version better. He offered me the PC version for a great price which I could not turn down. A few of the locals listened to both players in his system and I believe all agreed the PC version seemed too dry in the midrange, especially in comparison to the Exemplar. I did a few additional mods to the player that IMO helped flesh out the midrange. I added a large CLC common mode filter before the power supply, rewired the power supply to eliminate some of the push on connectors (not sure how much it helped but since I was wiring in the filter there was no reason not to), removed the output muting transistors and bypassed the output caps. In many cases it's not good to bypass the output caps but the DC offset was quite low at 6mv and I run a tube line stage which doesn't seem to be bothered by a small amount of DC on the input.

The end result is a very good player, at least I think so. :)

Hmm, I think I've went on way too long. :D Hope this helps.

mike

mgalusha

Denon DVD-2900 Level 1 Mod. By 6moons
« Reply #5 on: 23 Mar 2004, 12:50 am »
I didn't see Wayne's post before I hit submit, I had forgotten about using it as a transport in comparison with the Norh. As Wayne mentions it was pretty much no contest with the CD-1.

mike

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Denon DVD-2900 Level 1 Mod. By 6moons
« Reply #6 on: 23 Mar 2004, 02:08 am »
Thnaks guys for the comments. While I have owned a "Kerned" 333ES a few years back and had a stock SACD-1000 I now have stock (well the little BG cap in the PS) 963SA. For redbook I run a hotrodded Museatex IDAT-44 DAC with BGs that I bought from John @ Museatex. I rigged up a battery PS which negates any noise floor what-so-ever so I'm quite happy with redbook but I have this nagging feeling that I'm just not getting everything out of SACD with the little Philips that the format offers. So thats why I'm lurking and canvassing opinions on possible other sources. We'll venture over to Modwright to see whats new with Dan's tube mods on his Denon offerings. Maybe not the Exemplar but might get me close...