A request for Danny - LS Center Channel Kit

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Re: A request for Danny - LS Center Channel Kit
« Reply #80 on: 15 Feb 2011, 10:33 pm »
yes they do........but the 6s have the X base........just plain old piano black for the 6s

Cool. I plan to make stands that will compliment both base styles.

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Re: A request for Danny - LS Center Channel Kit
« Reply #81 on: 16 Feb 2011, 12:03 am »
This is really exciting news for us LS owners.

I can't wait to see the finished product.

I should probably put my X-voce for sale and start saving some $.

Thanks Danny and Ruben for making this happen. :thumb:

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Re: A request for Danny - LS Center Channel Kit
« Reply #82 on: 16 Feb 2011, 08:59 pm »
I got a feeling there will be a lot of x-voce's for sale - just wish/hope there is a market for them!

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Re: A request for Danny - LS Center Channel Kit
« Reply #83 on: 18 Feb 2011, 01:40 am »
Satin rosewood for me.

Any recommendations for surround speakers to go with these and LS-6's?

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Re: A request for Danny - LS Center Channel Kit
« Reply #84 on: 18 Feb 2011, 02:14 pm »
The N3 is being used by someone else as surrounds for his LS speakers. It uses the same drivers that are going to be used for the LS-Center.

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Re: A request for Danny - LS Center Channel Kit
« Reply #85 on: 18 Feb 2011, 02:47 pm »
Hey everybody, here are the box plans: http://www.gr-research.com/pdf/ls-c.pdf

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« Reply #86 on: 18 Feb 2011, 05:40 pm »
There are a few things to consider when looking for a surround speaker.  Danny much prefers the Omni-directional approach of the AV1-RS because it gives you a diffuse sound field with good frequency response throughout the room.   

I have personally had mini monitors for surrounds and disliked it because they were just too directional.  You knew the speaker was there this is not what surround sound is about.  The other approaches di-poll etc just project sound everywhere and you get very inconstant frequency response in the room.   My current surround speakers are omni-directional but not nearly as good as the AV1-RS however I much prefer them to other speakers I have used.

Ok now that we have established the merit of Omni-directional AV1-RS for surround sound let’s consider some aspects of this particular speaker.  The choice to use a soft dome vs. the Neo is probably driven by the fact that the soft dome will have better vertical off axis frequency response.  Given that it is above your head this is important and likely the reason Danny has never created a Neo Surround speaker.  (I’m guessing here and could be totally wrong).  Now let’s look at the driver configuration.  I know you guys love multiple drivers, but a surround speaker mounted on the wall/ceiling has no baffle step correction and thus a single mid-woofer is all that is needed to keep up with the efficiency of either the soft dome or Neo tweeter.  So less being more the AV1-RS is looking like the best candidate thus far for a number of reasons.  The final reason is this.  Look at this graph of where music is played.





Now look at where the AV-1RS is crossed roughly 1.8k.  A lot of what you are listening to is coming from the mid-woof which is in the same family as the line arrays.  Meaning it will fit very well.  The tweeter is mostly adding ambiance. 

I don’t think the AV-1RS always gets the respect it deserves.  The Rodney Dangerfield of Danny’s speakers. Lol  Over the years I have come to conclude it must be perfect for its intended job because Danny seems loath to mess with it. 

For reference here is a link to the AV-1RS http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=10915.0

Again I could be totally wrong about all this…

Cheers,
Robert

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Re: A request for Danny - LS Center Channel Kit
« Reply #87 on: 18 Feb 2011, 05:40 pm »
Hey everybody, here are the box plans: http://www.gr-research.com/pdf/ls-c.pdf

Now THAT is a center worthy of the title LS-C. :thumb:

I'll have one out to you early next week!

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Re: A request for Danny - LS Center Channel Kit
« Reply #88 on: 23 Feb 2011, 03:32 am »
Getting closer!  :thumb:

This one is being shipped to GR Research tomorrow evening.






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« Reply #89 on: 23 Feb 2011, 03:43 am »
Nice Ruben! That is big, but doesn't look too big. I like the comparison to the Voce (which I have).

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Re: A request for Danny - LS Center Channel Kit
« Reply #90 on: 23 Feb 2011, 04:01 am »
It extends past the X-Voce by 4.5" on either side and is about 1" deeper.

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Re: A request for Danny - LS Center Channel Kit
« Reply #91 on: 23 Feb 2011, 04:15 am »
Getting closer!  :thumb:

This one is being shipped to GR Research tomorrow evening.








I'll take one in Rosewood please. :)

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Re: A request for Danny - LS Center Channel Kit
« Reply #92 on: 23 Feb 2011, 04:23 am »
Very Nice  :green:

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« Reply #93 on: 23 Feb 2011, 05:16 am »
Sick!

Ruben, you do such nice work.

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Re: A request for Danny - LS Center Channel Kit
« Reply #94 on: 23 Feb 2011, 02:14 pm »
That looks terrific!

One question:  Where are the speaker wire connections? :P

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Re: A request for Danny - LS Center Channel Kit
« Reply #95 on: 23 Feb 2011, 03:02 pm »
That looks terrific!

One question:  Where are the speaker wire connections? :P

You run them straight through the ports. It gives you a direct connection to the crossover board so less connections equals better sound. Jeeze, you think everyone would know this.

 :lol:

Agreed, Ruben you screwed up! LOL!

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Re: A request for Danny - LS Center Channel Kit
« Reply #96 on: 23 Feb 2011, 03:17 pm »
Dang Ruben, you were quick with the box.

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You run them straight through the ports.

Actually for measuring and testing the crossover during the design stage, I do just drop the wiring of the drivers straight out the ports, and work with the crossover parts externally.

Once it is completed then we can drill holes for tube connectors anywhere on the back of it and internally mount the crossover through the woofer holes.

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« Reply #97 on: 23 Feb 2011, 03:26 pm »
Dang Ruben, you were quick with the box.

Actually for measuring and testing the crossover during the design stage, I do just drop the wiring of the drivers straight out the ports, and work with the crossover parts externally.

Once it is completed then we can drill holes for tube connectors anywhere on the back of it and internally mount the crossover through the woofer holes.

Man, even in my sarcasm I was right  :thumb: LOL! Good to know Danny. Its not that much bigger than my current X-Voce and would just hang off the sides of my ET Center, I could probably swing it :)

Scott

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Re: A request for Danny - LS Center Channel Kit
« Reply #98 on: 23 Feb 2011, 04:18 pm »
I bet an LCR setup of those would be awesome! :drool:

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Re: A request for Danny - LS Center Channel Kit
« Reply #99 on: 23 Feb 2011, 04:32 pm »
I bet an LCR setup of those would be awesome! :drool:

I'd just have to move two woofers from one end to the bottom. It would be just like an OB-7 but without the open baffle part. And it would be a 2.5 way design instead of a 3 way.