Opinions on most "accurate" speakers

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jfreeman373

Opinions on most "accurate" speakers
« Reply #40 on: 24 May 2004, 07:01 am »
Hey Bill,
     Happy to hear you will be carrying our speakers.  I was there...I can honestly say that I have not heard our  speakers, or any other for that matter, sound as good as the system we put together at Joe's house did at the end of our session this weekend.  It was truly in the realm of perfection as far as I'm concerned and Joe has an excellent ear that aided us in this quest...he pulled out recordings of the most excellent caliber that just put my own reference disk to shame.  After hearing MY disc on his system, I felt that my listening skills were not what I thought they were... until I realized it only had to do with the clarity of electronics that I am not accustomed to.  I easily began to recognize differences in DAC's, amps, and transports.  Something that I used to blame on recordings for lack of other reference equipment.  


We threw everything in the book at them and I am amazed at how revealing our speakers truly are....I was always under the opinion that differences in components should not be "that" noticable in the end.  I was 10,000% wrong in that assumption.  The marriage of the JOLIDA OR the Rogue ZEUS on the tweeters and the solidstate/high power with a super high damping factor MACRO REFERNCE on the woofers was nothing less than astounding and amazing in our final bi-amp configuration.  By taking away the stress that woofer is putting on the tube, it really allows the tube amp to sing withought ever coming close to saturation...which is usually very noticeable on the Continuum A.D.  Then the sweetness that tubes normally give you (with a more efficient speaker) is allowed to really shine through.  Another layer peeling back of the onion.  This integration we stumbled on is nothing less than absolutley amazing.  Joe even commented that these were "the finest loudspeakers" he has ever heard.   At one point we had to turn the speakers down cause you could hear them at the end of the block.....and I heard absolutely no distortion,( by the way.. Joe usually listens at very LOW volume levels ....as far as I am acustomed to and strayed from his own standard the second day).  Thankfully to the electronics on the backend,  we have had an opportunity ourselves to have the truth revealed to us AGAIN about our own product.  I hate to brag and I am usually a very modest person  but I have to say.... "I always knew we were pretty good, but I didn't know we were building what I just finished hearing this weekend, the product I work with every day had just amazed me for the third time to the 4rth level"  

Finally I must say  Joe, his wife(thanks again for the tooth brush) and their family and friends ARE the nicest and most straight forward and sincerely caring,real, and hospitable people I have ever met in my entire life. They did everything short of leaving a mint on my pillow. You truly have recieved an honor in having the opportunity in dealing with them in a business relationship....or any other for that matter.  I hope to visit them again soon and sit up all night listening to music and visiting the friendly people at their church on Sunday morning. I truly enjoyed myself more than I have in a very long time.

Cheers!

sbcgroup1

Studio Monitor Standards
« Reply #41 on: 26 May 2004, 01:48 pm »
Okay, I've heard a lot of "studio monitor" terms thrown around and just to set the record straight, the industry standard in commercial recording studios is the Genelec 1031A. Period. They're big and loud. Yamaha NS-10's (discontinued) are also usually around on the other hand because they are a good representation of what the final mix will sound like on the "layman's" system in general. NS-10's along with Tascam DA-88's (industry standard recorder) were used recently to monitor & record the live Chicago album.

Anyways, as a general rule, Ribbons/Ribbon hybrids are usually much more revealing than your typical coned enclosures. My favorite sounds probably lie somewhere between the combination of the two...or better yet...two separate systems. My favorites would include the Maggies on one end and maybe something like the Viennas on the other end (but their sweet spot is way too narrow). I would probably want to hook up everthing via a jukebox network and have a remote control to make everything easy to play where I want it and much less annoying. In the meantime, the VMPS line is a great integration of these technologies for us and we're going with that in our main system room (living room). The only thing that I desired when listening to the VMPS was more "punch" in the midrange (they have ribbons), but if the ribbons are absent, you usually lose some detail. Maybe a combination would be cool...

Well, anyways, that's my two cents.:)

Double Ugly

Re: Studio Monitor Standards
« Reply #42 on: 26 May 2004, 03:47 pm »
Quote from: sbcgroup1
Okay, I've heard a lot of "studio monitor" terms thrown around and just to set the record straight, the industry standard in commercial recording studios is the Genelec 1031A. Period. They're big and loud.

That may be true at present, but there'll always be competition from new companies and room for change/improvement.  Oftentimes change is slow and met with resistance, even when the improvements offered by said change could be significant.

Professional Use:
Pro Audio Review  (Timepiece 2.0)

Professional/Personal Use:
Enjoy the Music  (Timepiece 2.0)

Personal Use:
Horsehead's Review of the Continuum


Quote from: sbcgroup1
Anyways, as a general rule, Ribbons/Ribbon hybrids are usually much more revealing than your typical coned enclosures.

IMO, SP Tech speakers are not typical, and I'm not alone in saying they're an exception to more than one commonly held belief about coned enclosures.  While no one speaker or speaker company is going to please everyone, those in the market for monitors (and soon, floor-standers) owe it to themselves to take a hard look at SP Tech.

Just my two cents as well.  YMMV, and I'm sure you'll be very happy with the VMPS speakers.

DU

brj

Re: Studio Monitor Standards
« Reply #43 on: 26 May 2004, 11:30 pm »
Quote from: Double Ugly
those in the market for monitors (and soon, floor-standers) owe it to themselves to take a hard look at SP Tech


Floorstanders?  Do you (or Bob, or anyone else) have any details you can share?

Thanks!

-Brian