New Facilitator needed here it seems...

JohnR · « **on:** 4 Feb 2011, 02:30 pm »

Any interest from the assembled?

JohnR · « **Reply #1 on:** 20 Feb 2011, 02:40 pm »

Bump.

ServerAdmin · « **Reply #2 on:** 20 Feb 2011, 04:34 pm »

A litte interest in this position but as far as I can tell this circle is more about PC-based music servers as Macs are covered in the Apple Core.

If I don't get any good offers in the next day or two I'll assume that the topic area is basically covered elsewhere (Hi-Rez, Apple Core, Solid State) and archive it. Thx.

kyrill · « **Reply #3 on:** 20 Feb 2011, 11:07 pm »

erghh that would be bad news

JohnR · « **Reply #4 on:** 21 Feb 2011, 12:39 am »

Well... someone needs to do it... what about you?

wilbert-vanbakel · « **Reply #5 on:** 21 Feb 2011, 05:50 am »

Hello there,
I notice this request for help in the Discless Circle.Where can I find information in order to make a well-informed decision towards such position?Is there anything you want to tell me from your own experience?
My PM bounced.Thank you very much

skunark · « **Reply #6 on:** 21 Feb 2011, 08:37 am »

I've always been a bit confused on why there is both discless and HiRez circles as they do overlap. I thinking one "digital audio circle" would work and have a Microsoft circle to match that of the apple circle. I realize it is always "the year of Linux", but I'm guessing there's not a tremendous following to support a circle.

Just my two cents.

kyrill · « **Reply #7 on:** 21 Feb 2011, 10:03 am »

a split between PC setups and the rest would make sense no? Hi John, I am working on my Phd and I an structuraly getting behind schedule

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MaxCast · « **Reply #8 on:** 21 Feb 2011, 12:42 pm »

Quote from: wilbert-vanbakel on 21 Feb 2011, 05:50 am

Hello there,
I notice this request for help in the Discless Circle.Where can I find information in order to make a well-informed decision towards such position?Is there anything you want to tell me from your own experience?
My PM bounced.Thank you very much

Hi wilbert-vanbakel,
The role of a Facilitator is to facilitate discussion in your circle. The roles of a Facilitator can best be found here.
http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=41734.0
Other info on AudioCircle can be found in these links.
http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?board=117.0

It is not hard to do. If you have any further questions pm JohnR, pjchappy or me.
Thanks,
Rich

davidrs · « **Reply #9 on:** 21 Feb 2011, 02:09 pm »

Quote from: skunark on 21 Feb 2011, 08:37 am

I've always been a bit confused on why there is both discless and HiRez circles as they do overlap. I thinking one "digital audio circle" would work and have a Microsoft circle to match that of the apple circle. I realize it is always "the year of Linux", but I'm guessing there's not a tremendous following to support a circle.

Just my two cents.

I've had the same confusion when posting.

Your suggestion for a PC/Microsoft circle mirrored to / with the Mac circle makes sense.

HiRez obviously covers hi resolution, but can also serve for discussion of topics pertinent to and which overlap all computer based audio.

Therefore: HiRez, Apple Core, Microsoft Core / PC Core ....

(as a side note, I personally do not see a proper fit for Discless under Solid State).

- David.

toddbagwell · « **Reply #10 on:** 21 Feb 2011, 02:24 pm »

I'll Moderate this circle.

I'm here on AC often. I don't post very frequently, but I'm into computer audio exclusively. I run a PC with iTunes, so I'm not really into the Apple Circle as much as just computer audio in general. I've probably posted most in the GR research forum and could likely get Art S. to give me a reasonable recommendation if I asked nicely. Let me know if I need to sign up anywhere else or if you need a note from my mom

Later,
Todd

lcrim · « **Reply #11 on:** 21 Feb 2011, 03:26 pm »

It seems to me, having been around awhile, that if you want to playback audio files from a hard drive that it can go via a USB cable, HDMI or you can use ethernet. The Home Theatre Circle and/or the HiRez Circle plus the Apple Circle already covers the USB and HDMI paths.

What needs coverage is the ethernet path whether from MS or Linux. I wouldn't like to see this ignored but I do notice that the more recent members are lost as to what goes where. I spend more time on the Squeezebox sites than I do here recently because of this lack. Yeah, I still check my Jazz Circle but thats never about settleing disputes. We still need a Circle that covers what I mentioned above.

wilbert-vanbakel · « **Reply #12 on:** 21 Feb 2011, 03:38 pm »

Quote from: davidrs on 21 Feb 2011, 02:09 pm

Your suggestion for a PC/Microsoft circle mirrored to / with the Mac circle makes sense.

My first reaction is that there isn't really a competition between Apple and Microsoft OS, when you think of music servers.
I have recently assembled and installed a linux based music server, that could very well also be run with Windows.
My understanding is that when you look at Apple solutions, you take the hardware in consideration, whereas with Linux/Windows it's more focused on software.

Just a thought.
-edit:

Quote from: lcrim on 21 Feb 2011, 03:26 pm

I wouldn't like to see this ignored but I do notice that the more recent members are lost as to what goes where. I spend more time on the Squeezebox sites than I do here recently because of this lack.

This made me think: I started with Vortexbox and reinstalled my own OS and Squeezebox (which resulted in gapless playback!), but I would like to learn more about musicpd and perhaps other solutions.I like to get a better idea of advantages and disadvantages of the different options. Also tagging might be an interesting subject here?

davidrs · « **Reply #13 on:** 21 Feb 2011, 04:58 pm »

Quote from: wilbert-vanbakel on 21 Feb 2011, 03:38 pm

My first reaction is that there isn't really a competition between Apple and Microsoft OS, when you think of music servers.

Wilbert,

My thoughts were not around competition, but around ease of organization, support, and serving the needs of those that have questions and issues that need resolved.

And I still believe that the issues of both software and hardware for audio based solutions driven by a pc/Microsoft platform are different than those for Mac.

Further, here on AudioCircle, there are much richer and deeper discussions and threads, including related manufacturer support, for those choosing the Mac route in comparison to the pc/Microsoft route.

For those involved and vested in all things computer, the differences are not a big deal. But for those newer to computer based audio and computers in general, the differences can be, and are, daunting.

To reiterate my point regarding ease of organization, support, and utilization of a Circle, I believe a PC / Microsoft Circle, with proper facilitation as well as facilitator support and involvement, is necessary.

It is great to see you and others like Todd offering to facilitate.

- David.

lcrim · « **Reply #14 on:** 21 Feb 2011, 05:00 pm »

Again, the need for a Circle wherein network music servers can be discussed is being largely overlooked in this discussion.
We do need newer members to step up and help with running the site. The fact that many can't see the distinction between a pc or Mac connected to their stereo and having their music sources connected to their home network is a somewhat backwards view point.

davidrs · « **Reply #15 on:** 21 Feb 2011, 05:08 pm »

Quote from: lcrim on 21 Feb 2011, 05:00 pm

Again, the need for a Circle wherein network music servers can be discussed is being largely overlooked in this discussion.

Hi Icrim,

Not ignoring it. Just didn't get around to reinforcing your point.

I am in complete support of a focused approach on networked music servers and solutions. It is an essential, actually critical topic, no matter what OS one is using.

- David.

ted_b · « **Reply #16 on:** 21 Feb 2011, 06:11 pm »

My HiRez Music Circle is primarily intended for just that, the HiRez Music (i.e software like downloads, DVD-Audio, SACD and the ability to rip them). I've probably gotten too much into DACs and other hardware that enables HiRez playback cuz since it seems to be a specialty of mine, but am willing to throw it over the fence to any one of these music server (i.e hardware/networking/operating system) Circles.

I agree that having an Apple Circle and then a discless one is somewhat confusing, and not necessarily just Windows vs MAC, especially with the growing interest in Linux servers (MPD like Alix, Vortexbox, etc). I'd much rather see a couple of OS-agnostic Circles that relate instead to the interest (music servers, networking, players/tagging, etc). I don't have an answer but wanted to jump in and say I'd love if my HiRez Circle could stay more music oriented and have somewhere more dedicated to point music server and player questions/discussions. Otherwise we have mutliple Circles trying to address the question "Is a Mac Mini the best music server option".

wilbert-vanbakel · « **Reply #17 on:** 21 Feb 2011, 06:26 pm »

I can understand how Apple customers want their own circle, but to me it seems just as 'music server' like as linux based systems or windows based systems. Although a docked iPod as source is a different area.

I would think of a "hard disk sourced' circle. And I debate with myself if networked needs to be emphasized. After all, network is just a virtual cable between the disk and the (internal/external) DAC. Of course with it's own challenges.

MaxCast · « **Reply #18 on:** 21 Feb 2011, 08:13 pm »

I dunno. I think the organization is just fine. We have an apple specific circle and a discless circle = "This circle is dedicated to computer based audio servers, network players and associated hardware and software." Granted, the latter could have a different nomenclature with the main focus being PC based.

ted b, I think you hirez circle is just fine and you are doing a great job. If you ever feel a topic would be better answered in a different circle just move it.

I think wilbert made a good point

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...I believe a PC / Microsoft Circle, with proper facilitation as well as facilitator support and involvement, is necessary.

that being facilitator support and involvement. A good facilitator would have experience with computer based audio and have some good ideas for updated 'how to' subjects.

pansixt · « **Reply #19 on:** 22 Feb 2011, 01:36 am »

When I recently came to AC my main interest was in and around analog 2 channel audio systems.
But one day I dropped into the discless circle and in a short time I realized the amazing potential of my PC based digital music that I have been lazily using for years.
Since that time I have bought a DAC (amazing difference) and soon will have an SB Touch to network my digital music and enjoy through my main audio system. Maybe in the future I'll build a V Box appliance.
It would never have occurred to me go to an apple user circle. But when I got around to using my ipod touch for a remote for the SB, I am sure I would have if I hadn't already found that discussed here. I got all of this here.
Whatever becomes of this circle, I will still come here for friendly help and support and all of you that make this possible.
It has been a little confusing at times, but it has helped me get so much more out of the music.

Just wanted to say that.
Thanks,
James