Someone help a newbie get started in building

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mchuckp

Someone help a newbie get started in building
« on: 20 Sep 2010, 07:57 pm »
I am a COMPLETE novice to building electronics but a smart guy.  I've been thinking about getting started for quite some time and think I'm ready to take the plunge.  Seems juvenile but I was thinking the best starting point would be to get basic book with some projects.  Saw this at radio shack.
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3433933

As much as I'd like to just jump in with both feet and build some components or speakers, I feel I need to take it slow and start from the very beginning and build some random circuits and such.  Then jump into some inexpensive audio kits from there.

Anyone disagree with this approach?

Also, what do I need to look for in a soldering kit?  I'd like to spend as little as I can but obviously don't want to give myself more trouble than it is worth.

If anyone has any other words of wisdom or advice, please let me know.

Thanks,
Mike

kingnubian

Re: Someone help a newbie get started in building
« Reply #1 on: 20 Sep 2010, 09:31 pm »
We are sort of in the same boat in that I also have just started building. Here is what I have done to get started.

1)Read, read ,read. Reading the book you mentioned is a plus as well as this site which is a treasure trove of DIY info from the rank newbie to the advanced builder as well as being a friendly place. As you continue to soak up all this information, you will get a real feel for diy and the excitement behind it.

2)Practice the skills you will need such as basic soldering, component identification, ect. I purchased a cheap breadboard & soldering iron kit from my local electronics parts warehouse. I added a couple bags of cheap resistors, capacitors, relays, ect to practice on building some simple circuits. I had learned to solder years ago but a few hours of practice brought it all back again.

3)I started with a high quality but simple to assemble kit, the ClassDaudio SDS-254, to get a feel for this diy thing and have been hooked. There are cheaper kits such as HifiMeDiy's amps which are just as simple to setup as there really is no component assembly to speak of & minimal soldering.

4)To get my feet wet with a built from scratch project, the Pass B1 preamp is a great start. It requires only moderate soldering skills and the process is very well documented in the Pass B1 thread in "The Lab" secion of this site. From there other more challenging projects can be considered.

I like the approach you are taking. Enjoy yourself!

sts9fan

Re: Someone help a newbie get started in building
« Reply #2 on: 21 Sep 2010, 01:50 am »
Not sure the classd kits will gain you any skills but they sond great.
I always find building the box the toughest part with electronics.  I am currently working on my sheet goods skills for building speakers. 
I also really like the bottle head kits. The foreplay3 was my first diy I think. That or a gainclone.

Kris

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Re: Someone help a newbie get started in building
« Reply #3 on: 21 Sep 2010, 07:20 pm »
I am a COMPLETE novice to building electronics but a smart guy.  I've been thinking about getting started for quite some time and think I'm ready to take the plunge.  Seems juvenile but I was thinking the best starting point would be to get basic book with some projects.  Saw this at radio shack.
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3433933

As much as I'd like to just jump in with both feet and build some components or speakers, I feel I need to take it slow and start from the very beginning and build some random circuits and such.  Then jump into some inexpensive audio kits from there.

Anyone disagree with this approach?

Also, what do I need to look for in a soldering kit?  I'd like to spend as little as I can but obviously don't want to give myself more trouble than it is worth.

If anyone has any other words of wisdom or advice, please let me know.

Thanks,
Mike

Be sure to get a good digital multimeter, preferably one that can measure inductance as well.

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Re: Someone help a newbie get started in building
« Reply #4 on: 21 Sep 2010, 07:22 pm »
Not sure the classd kits will gain you any skills but they sond great.
I always find building the box the toughest part with electronics.  I am currently working on my sheet goods skills for building speakers. 
I also really like the bottle head kits. The foreplay3 was my first diy I think. That or a gainclone.

Kris

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Re: Someone help a newbie get started in building
« Reply #5 on: 21 Sep 2010, 08:01 pm »

Also, what do I need to look for in a soldering kit?  I'd like to spend as little as I can but obviously don't want to give myself more trouble than it is worth.

I'm just going to give some examples. There may be other brands that are a better deal.

You could get a soldering iron similar to this:

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=374-100

Something like this would work for solder:

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062719

The thickness of the solder you use depends on what you're soldering. But for starters it won't matter too much.

Some tools like this can be useful, although I'm pretty sure I've seen them for a lot less money elsewhere:

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4314828

Hmmm... actually, this kit contains most of what I was going to recommend and it's only $20.

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062759

I don't know what the quality is like, but you could probably buy this and then replace things if you need to later, once you've decided whether or not it's for you.

For some practice at soldering, you could buy some inexpensive resistors and wire and some terminal strips at Rat Shack and try your hand at it. You might also want to practice on a circuit board. You can buy bare boards similar to this at various places:

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=320-226


Another option would be an old, broken radio or something. (You could even get something from Goodwill.) It's better if it's something old so that it will have components with leads and not surface mount ones.

Get a desoldering tool:

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=370-030

Take your "victim" and apply your soldering iron to a solder joint and then suck off the old solder. Then take some of the resistors you got at Shadio Rack and try installing them and soldering.

I'd rather that your victim be something battery-powered. Either that or make sure it hasn't been plugged into a wall socket for at least a week to be safe.

Don't try this on a flash gun or a TV set. Both of these things can have very high voltages and it's easy to get zapped. Stay away from them until you've had more experience.

You might want to get the desoldering tool anyway. They're might useful when kitbuilding if you make a mistake.

The Radio Shack book on electronics probably isn't a bad place to start. You could also check at your local library to see what they have.

I feel that, once you've mastered soldering, you might as well jump right into a kit.

How about this one?

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=320-122

It looks simple to put together, is inexpensive, and you can use it as an alarm to detect leaks from your water heater when you're done.

I think it's good to get a bit of a sense of accomplishment with electronics, and then you can dive back into the books and learn more. :)

I also suggest you check out the Vintage Circle and some of the posts Bill Thomas has made.

Like this:

http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=77115.0

He gives some really good advice, has some great pictures, and you'll get a bit of a feel for what's what inside a preamp in this case.