Moving on from Foobar, Media Center, Squeezebox etc... anything else decent?

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madfloyd

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The IP address I posted will give you the same screen on your mobile device effectively that you see on your server in the other room.

Bryan

I think everyone has a different IP address (I know I have to use a different one for it to work).   The port number (9000) seems to be right though.

I still prefer iPeng, but it's good to be able to go this route too.

Thanks.

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The IP is really strange since my home network prefix is 192.168.x.1 but the SB interface is on 127.0.x.x

The interface is a bit small on in iPhone - but looks just fine on an iPad

Bryan

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If you want to give JRMC another try you will want to check out the XPTunes interface. It's much better than the built in web interface and is similar to iPeng.

madfloyd

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If you want to give JRMC another try you will want to check out the XPTunes interface. It's much better than the built in web interface and is similar to iPeng.

Thanks for this - looks promising!

madfloyd

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Squeezeplay worked fairly well, except that it doesn't seem to handle hi-rez (96k) files at all.

It also doesn't allow for plugins, meaning I can't use the EQ plugin that I unfortunately rely on.

I will try JRiver with XPTunes and see how that works.

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What made you fall in love with this new USB DAC and is it actually better than your Modwright Transporter?  Or is it just something new to play with?

Because (IMO) from both a usability and logistic standpoint, the computer + USB DAC approach to computer audio is badly flawed in many ways.  First, you lose much of the dedicated software flexibility that Squeezebox Server (or Sonos or even Sooloos) gives you.  Remote control browsing and playback control via IR remote, or web interface, or dedicated Controller, or (as you've discovered) through iPod Touch/iPhone and Android device apps.

Then there's the requirement to have a computer in your listening room.  The limitations to USB cable length.  And the worst part of it: Using a consumer grade computer as a digital audio transport.  Read some other forums to see the lengths many people have gone to in order to get their "music servers" to sound passable.  The trifling little hardware tweaks and software changes that come out almost daily (and are argued ad infinitum) that make large differences in the sound quality.  It's never ending and it makes absolutely no sense unless you embrace driving yourself nuts worrying about and fiddling with such things.

madfloyd

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What made you fall in love with this new USB DAC and is it actually better than your Modwright Transporter?  Or is it just something new to play with?

'Better' is subjective.  In my system, the Transporter sounds like a veil is over the music in comparison to some other DACs that I've tried.  It might be simple case of too much tubes (I use a tube preamp), but I decided I wanted a very clean and tight low end and the tube bloom in the transporter doesn't help.  Consider this a synergy issue.

As for the computer in the room problem, in my situation the computer is in another room (directly behind the wall where my equipment is), so I can run a 1.5 meter USB cable and not worry about length or computer noise.  However, even this was an issue and I needed my computer farther away, my currnet DAC handles this fine (it accepts ethernet cable).  My DAC (Resolution Audio Cantata) excels at USB so I don't think I face the issues that other USB DACs do.  I've also tried the Orpheus Prism (firewire DAC) and found it to be superb.

As for the benefits of Squeezecenter, there are some advantages to running something else besides Squeezecenter, such as digital EQs that are in the form of VSTs.  As with everything, there are tradeoffs.  I use an iPad for a remote, so there are ways of controlling all these players, but the feature set varies between them.

I don't think most people will want to go to the lengths I am in order to get their system to an enjoyable state.  :-)

highfilter

Squeezeplay worked fairly well, except that it doesn't seem to handle hi-rez (96k) files at all.

It also doesn't allow for plugins, meaning I can't use the EQ plugin that I unfortunately rely on.

I will try JRiver with XPTunes and see how that works.

I'm on the same path as you. I recently just bought a Mac Mini and I am looking for software that plays everything that the Squeezebox Touch plays, and has remote functionality. I tried Squeezeplay, Softsqueeze, Squeezeslave... but they all don't support hi-res playback. They all work with iPeng and would be perfect if they played hi-res, but no go. Play and Cog for the Mac don't dynamically switch sample rates either, so they are out.

The best option I have found so far (for Mac), is iTunes with Pure Music. Supports hi-res playback, dynamic sample rate switching, and integrates into iTunes so you can use the remote app for the iPod Touch to control playback. FLAC seems to be a pain on a Mac as well, so I would probably just convert all my stuff to AIFF if I am going with this route.

I use Foobar exclusively on my PC, but it's in my office and I don't want that huge rig in my listening area. I got the Mac Mini because it's dead quiet and is supposed to sound great as a transport.

You might want to try SongBird if you haven't already, it supports all file formats and has remote apps. Don't think it has dynamic sample rate switching, though. Might be different for Windows.

Then there's the requirement to have a computer in your listening room.  The limitations to USB cable length.  And the worst part of it: Using a consumer grade computer as a digital audio transport.  Read some other forums to see the lengths many people have gone to in order to get their "music servers" to sound passable.  The trifling little hardware tweaks and software changes that come out almost daily (and are argued ad infinitum) that make large differences in the sound quality.  It's never ending and it makes absolutely no sense unless you embrace driving yourself nuts worrying about and fiddling with such things.

Switching over to using a computer as a transport has been a huge pain in the ass, but hopefully as soon I can get everything setup and do a proper comparison between the Mac Mini and Squeezebox Touch, to see if this is even worth it. I haven't been let down by the Squeezebox Touch yet, but I've heard people saying how great a USB DAC sounds with the Mac Mini, so if I can get a slight edge in quality, I'm all for it. (All willing to lose my mind trying to find the right combo of software / functionality / remote convenience)

JEaton

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I use an iPad for a remote, so there are ways of controlling all these players, but the feature set varies between them.

Have you looked into running remote desktop software on the computer and the iPad?  Then connect to the computer and remotely run whichever native audio application that you prefer.  You should have sufficient screen resolution on the iPad to do this.

madfloyd

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Have you looked into running remote desktop software on the computer and the iPad?  Then connect to the computer and remotely run whichever native audio application that you prefer.  You should have sufficient screen resolution on the iPad to do this.

I tried it once and found it too slow.